Steady Leak: All Chops, No Brain - Page 3

Dugg

Well yeah, that's the joke.

He has a long enough past as one.

Far be it from me to leave a nail unhammered.

STARCRASH has a special place in my heart. It's obviously a Star Wars ripoff, but I enjoy it way more than Star Wars. It's so stupid and candy-colored and contrived and it has a robot with a Texan accent and David Hasselhoff as a jedi and Christopher Plummer as the emperor of the universe and the great Joe Spinell and armloads of shitty miniatures and Amazons riding red horses and Caroline Munro finding out that her other jedi buddy Akton is dying and saying to him quite earnestly "I don't understand. You never die!"

HUNTER-PREY, on the other hand, has none of the above, but instead is somewhat well-shot and has better special effects.

Tough call...

Shameless cash-ins by weirdo Italians who don't understand (nor do they care to understand) what they're copying beyond a movie-poster level of comprehension is just more appealing to me than empty homages by "devoted, passionate" fans who gave their "heart and soul" to a fake trailer. You get an exponentially more interesting end result.

I'm sorry, it's nice to see a guy love a property, but all I can think is "what if Myers87 made a movie"?

It's a novelty, but there is nothing on display there that would make any sane person think that this person has artistic vision. Does he have an eye for visuals? Perhaps, if properly trained. But the people that want a movie that actually looks and sounds like THIS are silly.

Like I said, he would be a great consultant for video games.

X meets X. Does this guy have ANY original thoughts?

Uh, mammal dude. A fish riding a mammal.




Kidding, of course.

ETA: Did any of you read that vomit-inducing page about his "CyberTribe" project? Tribes of robots with an Native-American vibe. He just loves the "theory" of a tribe. The "theory?!" You dumb fucking bastard. They EXIST. It's not a "theory."

I guess he doesn't like tribes in practice, just in theory.

Collora taught me that in THEORY, I like the idea of a live-action Batman wearing comic-accurate tights.

The X meets X elevator pitch is common Hollywood shorthand, especially when talking to producers who have even less vision than the film-makers.

I'm fascinated with the THEORY of airplanes. How fucking cool would it be to sit in a metal tube and be whisked from New York to L.A. in a few hours?

I keep flashbacking to that thread that one guy started about his Exorcist sequel fanfic (thanks to which my THEORY about "crucidildoes" was horrifically proven to be true).

I'm pretty much on the same boat as everyone else re: this guy. While it's nice (I guess) he's making his own flicks, it's a shame he's basing 'em off of someone elses' hard work. I can see doing a fan film as a goof to show off your skills to your buddies ("See Batman over there? Fighting Panthro? That's STEVE!!! Told you those tights are slimming... you can barely see his beer gut!"), or for some comic con or whatever, but putting it into your portfolio would be a major faux pas.

Come on, he added fish people, what more do you want?

This puzzles me a little. My background is the comics/licensing field and they (editors, publishers, etc) want to see that you have the ability to draw "on model" and can handle rendering licensed characters (especially those owned by the company you are "auditioning for") consistantly. The tryout stuff is basically fanart, until you're hired.

DC's not gonna hire you to draw Batman if all you show them is Captain Carrot.

I hate him just because he wants to make ANYTHING that 's described as "x meets Star Wars".

Comic books and film are two different mediums. Marvel and DC have specific labels under which new properties are created. Since a series starring a new character is rare to non-existant in the Marvel or DCU proper it makes sense that if you want to work under the flagship label you be well versed in those characters. The movie industry doesn't really work like that. Still even in comics you don't have to work for Marvel or DC proper you can choose to do creator owned work. You don't even have to self-publish. There are mid-level publishing companies for non-licensed stuff and DC has Vertigo.

That was my bad - I shouldn't have used "portfolio" (too much art/design stuff going on today; my head was somewhere else).

Saxon does raise a valid point - every time I did the comics route to try and break in, I always used characters specific to that company (Superman for Dc, Spider-Man for Marvel, etc. - I did an Ant Man(!) tale once and got some nice compliments from Tom DeFalco back in the day). That procedure of playing with a company's characters in that way ("fanart") works for the comics medium, but not so much for films. Comics companies also want to know that you can set up a scene, convey emotion (not just action), know your anatomy, play with lighting and shadows (when I was at the Kubert School, "Outer Limits" and B&W films were required watching for lighting and shadows - must tell my "Demon with a Glass Hand" story one day), camera angles, etc.

When it comes to film, however, (and I'm nowhere near as expert about film production as most of you lot) I'd assume most studios would want a prospective filmmaker to show them something that shows you know what you're doing, and also something that they haven't seen before - something fresh (innovative camera usage, lighting, composition, etc.). Shit, I look back at the first couple of Evil Dead flicks and I'm amazed at some of the stuff Raimi pulled off, and he was just starting out. Same with Jackson in Bad Taste. I highly doubt they'd be taken as seriously if they were shooting a Secret Wars epic in the woods somewhere.

Apologies again for my faux pas!

I know. Hey, I've seen The Player.

jesus christ, this conversation is still going on?

Six hours ago it was. I will say it made my head hurt less than the eight videogames-as-art threads.

Yeah, I recognize that. I was just wondering why the philosophies towards fanart are so different between 2 methods of visual storytelling, and in some cases utilizing the same licensed character (Batman) owned by the same company. Attainability, I guess. The odds you'll get noticed at that comic con by an editor and hired must be greater then a production company seeing your film online? Drawing Spidey in hopes of getting that gig doing a regular book is OK, shooting footage of your friend in a Spidey costume in not.
I graduated in '98 on Marvel's dime. Small world. Or did we already have this conversation before?

We did - and I'm still jealous. Fucking had to pay my own way, and I still burned out and left middle of my first year.

Can fanfilms be Art?

Discuss.

[ducks]

Are fan-made mods for video games art?

[runs away cackling]

The view's just fine from here...

At last, the epic Sandy Collora story can be told! Because YOU demanded it!

"New Book Reveals How Comic Con Destroyed One Man's Life"

Holy shit, that Guardians of Atlantis quote is hysterical. He's married to the sea?

Sigged.

FYI: HUNTER PREY is available on Netlfix instant for us all to judge:

http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Hunter_Prey/70130137?trkid=2361637#height1303