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Cockfighter (1974)

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Fuck you Phil.
I'm an animal lover, why did you make me watch this?

Frank is a great character, he's gone one thing that he's good at and he sticks by it, even if it means hurting the people around him.
Loved the behind the scenes on the tournaments and championships and the people living that life but at the end of the day, it was way too graphic to be able to enjoy.

Ed Begley Jr. freaking out with the axe after losing Jody was kind of amazing in a WTF kinda way.
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"Frank Mansfield walked into town with his cock in his hand. And what he did with it was illegal in 47 states!"

These animals all died in 1974, Tati; we'll be okay.

Tied with Two-Lane Blacktop as my favorite Oates performance; he can't stop running his mouth in one, and he's taken a vow of silence in the other. People smarter than me have called Cockfighter a meta-sequel to Two-Lane for that reason.

Further readin':

http://www.dennismcmillan.com/charle.../cockfigh1.htm

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Cockfighter might be my favorite of the bunch. It immerses you into its subject matter in a way Two-Lane doesn't. Two-Lane isn't after the same effect, though- watching two men lose themselves in their obsession without understanding it has a profound effect, but with a mute lead, abhorrent subject matter, and rednecks as far as the eye can see, a different approach is called for to lure the viewer in. But it's amazingly shot by Néstor Almendros, the score sticks in your head for days, and Oates completely captivates.

IMPORTANT: Cockfighter is available on a few cheapie DVD labels, but try to get the Anchor Bay version shown above. They restored it and took out all the shit Roger Corman added later, like a dream sequence with car explosions (added expressly for the purpose of having explosions in the trailer). It was retitled Born To Kill, and should not be mistaken for the real deal:



Here's an absolute mess of a re-release trailer. Watch the real one first.
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I was very surprised to see how big of a role screenwriter and novelist Charles Willeford has in COCKFIGHTER (as heavyset mustached Ed Middleton, the referee). This guy was a better actor than anyone probably expected, and had a unique physical appearance that would've gotten him a great deal more work if he'd stayed in Hollywood (his only other role was a brief cameo in the Roger Corman car chase flick THUNDER AND LIGHTNING). To my mind he's on a short list of writers who actually looked comfortable in front of a camera.

Other interesting bits about the writer and COCKFIGHTER...On the DVD commentary Hellman claims that Willeford wrote only the first draft. Hellman brought in Earl Mac Rauch (BUCKAROO BANZAI) for some doctoring and additional scenes. As much as I love Willeford's writing -- and one of these days I'll have to hunt down his original novel for comparison -- I can definitely see the value of Mac Rauch's material, specifically in the moments between Frank and Mary Elizabeth (Patricia Pearcy). Their scenes have a sense of warmth that the script needed to illustrate the extent of Frank's moral and emotional degeneration.

It's also surprising that Willeford stuck around to act in the film after Mac Rauch rewrote so much of his script, and that he spoke so highly of it later in interviews (and his book Cockfighter Journal: The Story of a Shooting).
post #3 of 7
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Well, now i have to watch Two Lane Blacktop, don't I?
post #4 of 7
Yeah. No animals were harmed, but James Taylor's acting career dies at the end of the film. Don't cry.
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I'll check it out soon.

Did Point Break steal the Dead presidents Idea from Cockfighter? That theft was mighty cool.

Also, the decision to make him silent by choice was amazing. Adds so many layers to the character.
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I don't think anyone involved with Point Break knew about Cockfighter.

Devin reviewed it on his site and didn't really like it! I'm glad more people are discovering Hellman flicks, though.
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Six, eight years ago I called Dennis McMillan to order some books, including the one from which the linked excerpt is taken. We wound up spending an hour or so talking about Willeford, Kent Anderson, and some other great American writers. I usually try to include one of them in the Chud Xmas gift swap.
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