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post #201 of 236
4/26/09 at 9:53am
Eric Cordo, Clearly Pat White is the best of Miami's Day 1 draft picks! Sure Corner Back is a need, But I wanted Kenny Britt Damn it, So, Day 1, I give Miami a B-. Without White a C.
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post #202 of 236
4/26/09 at 11:07am
And it begins agan. Bears finally pick. Jets trade up to top pick in 3rd.
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post #203 of 236
4/26/09 at 11:14am
Cowboys have 12 picks today, Bears have 9.
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post #204 of 236
4/26/09 at 11:26am
Heh, the Bears take the pool jumper!
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post #205 of 236
4/26/09 at 11:27am
Bears take guy who jumps out of pool

*damn you.
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post #206 of 236
4/26/09 at 11:27am
Gotta be faster than that, Anya!
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post #207 of 236
4/26/09 at 11:38am
And the Raiders take another guy who was projected much later. I'd be livid.
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post #208 of 236
4/26/09 at 11:40am
Damn, the Bengals take Michael Johnson, I was hoping he'd fall to Tampa or that they'd trade up to get him.
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post #209 of 236
4/26/09 at 12:01pm
You guys are much, much smarter about this stuff than I am, but so far I really like Atlanta's picks.
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post #210 of 236
4/26/09 at 12:30pm
Love the Roy Miller pick, just the right fit for the kind of defense Bates is looking to run.
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post #211 of 236
4/26/09 at 12:38pm
I don't know if he is a Burner, but, Miami Finally drafted the Big WR they need, in Patrick Turner. Then Miami finally realized that it is better to Receive, so they took Ohio State WR Brian Hartline. Both are tall wide outs, PT is 6'5, and BH is 6'2.
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post #212 of 236
4/26/09 at 1:47pm
Jesus christ Detroit, we don't need more wide receivers especially when we don't have an inside linebacker.
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post #213 of 236
4/26/09 at 2:07pm
Calvin Johnson can leap over triple teams in a single bound, so yeah, I would have gone with some defense as well.
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post #214 of 236
4/26/09 at 2:09pm
I want to punch the "steroids are as American as apple pie guy" in his tiny nuts.
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post #215 of 236
4/26/09 at 2:28pm
While I was initially disappointed with 2 Corner Backs out of their first 3 picks, now that Miami drafted 2 Tall WR's I am now content that their receiving core is set, outside of Receiving TE. TE John Nalbone from Monmouth NJ taken by Miami, WOW!!! 3 Receivers taken in a row.
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post #216 of 236
4/26/09 at 2:34pm
Sanchez and Stafford are going to be busts! Seahawks got the best player in the draft, Aaron Curry!

The mighty NFC West will be ours once again.
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post #217 of 236
4/26/09 at 4:16pm
Anymore Vanderbilt guys out there? Seems like the Bears are collecting them. Jerry Angelo usually hits big on 3rd round or later players. Hope it's on the DL.

*any Notre Dame players go yet?
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post #218 of 236
4/26/09 at 7:55pm
I really like what the Bucs did in the later rounds. Got a good zone blocking lineman, a corner with potential, and a possible steal of a receiver.
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post #219 of 236
4/26/09 at 8:03pm
What is it about the Bengals that they roll the dice on criminal and shady players?

Tough to judge drafts now but Denver and Oakland stick out as losers. And Detroits will be judged on Stafford.
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post #220 of 236
4/26/09 at 10:01pm
Wow. Total players drafted from Florida, FSU, and Miami: 5. When's the last time that number was so low?

I was disappointed Gano didn't get drafted, when 2 other kickers and a punter did. The Lou Groza winner should at least get a little consideration. Greg Carr not getting drafted actually makes me giggle a little.
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post #221 of 236
4/26/09 at 10:06pm
The Jaguars trade a second-rounder next year to take Derek Cox, a CB from William and Mary, in the third round. The front office loves him and says he'll be a starter in two years, which would give the Jags two starting corners from I-AA schools. If that's true, then I like the draft. If not..

I do like the two WR picks. Mike Thomas in the 4th and Jarrett Dillard in the 5th. Zach Miller from Nebraska-Omaha calls himself a "poor man's Tim Tebow." That'll sell a couple of jerseys.
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post #222 of 236
4/27/09 at 8:29am
Interesting--Josh Freeman says he was told by the Bucs that the Byron Leftwich signing was a "smokescreen" to make everyone think they weren't looking for another QB. And apparently Leftwich's contract has zero guaranteed money, so that he can be cut at anytime and the Bucs take no cap hit.
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post #223 of 236
4/27/09 at 11:35am
And yet they still traded up to get him. I thought the point of a smokescreen was to have someone fall to you...
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post #224 of 236
4/27/09 at 11:44am
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Originally Posted by Martianman View Post
Interesting--Josh Freeman says he was told by the Bucs that the Byron Leftwich signing was a "smokescreen" to make everyone think they weren't looking for another QB. And apparently Leftwich's contract has zero guaranteed money, so that he can be cut at anytime and the Bucs take no cap hit.
If this was true I'm sure it would be news to Byron Leftwich.
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post #225 of 236
4/27/09 at 12:04pm
I think Leftwich is smart enough to know that with no guaranteed money, he could still be cut.

I don't doubt part of the reason Leftwich was brought in was to throw teams off of what the Bucs were planning, but that wasn't the only reason.
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post #226 of 236
4/27/09 at 5:04pm
Well, a bunch of FSU guys got signed as FAs today. Gano ended up going to the Ravens. Here's the list (if anyone cares):

*WR Greg Carr has signed with the San Diego Chargers.

*CB Tony Carter has signed with the Denver Broncos. I was really surprised he didn't get drafted. He's a pretty good cover corner.

*LB Kenny Ingram has signed with the New York Giants.

*DE Neefy Moffett has signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

*LB Derek Nicholson has signed with the Atlanta Falcons.

*LB Toddrick Verdell has signed with the Houston Texans.

*RB Antone Smith will try out this weekend for the Detroit Lions "and signs are hopeful that he will sign a free agent contract after that, said Terry Watson, Smith’s agent."
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post #227 of 236
4/27/09 at 5:21pm
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I think Leftwich is smart enough to know that with no guaranteed money, he could still be cut.

I don't doubt part of the reason Leftwich was brought in was to throw teams off of what the Bucs were planning, but that wasn't the only reason.
What I'm saying is Leftwich probably had other options. I doubt he would have signed with TB if it was strictly for smokescreen purposes.
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post #228 of 236
4/27/09 at 5:23pm
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Freeman has the face of a 12 year old. Seriously, if anybody was in need of some facial hair it's this kid.
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post #229 of 236
4/27/09 at 5:42pm
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I think the Broncos took Moreno, in part, to show immediate return on investment for the Cutler deal. Out of all the players taken, Moreno probably has the best chance at immediately gaining good stats for his position. If the Broncos make Moreno the primary back and he stays healthy it wouldnt surprise me if he racked up 1200 + yards his first year. Then they could look back at the end of the year and say "see what the Cutler deal brought us." If they had taken Orakpo and Ayers with their first two picks, chances are their sack numbers would not be terribly impressive given that they are rookies and that the rest of the Denver D is so terrible.

Having said that, I definately wouldn't have taken a RB there if I'm Denver. Denver has shown over the years that you don't need a high pick RB to have a good running game. Take your Defense players in the first round and take a RB in the 2nd or 3rd.
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post #230 of 236
4/27/09 at 6:35pm
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Freeman has the face of a 12 year old. Seriously, if anybody was in need of some facial hair it's this kid.
Seriously, and compared to the body types of Stafford and Sanchez it seemed like Freeman looked a little bit thin. Then they gave his height/weight and I realized I'd just been looking at too many gigantic men on the television for the day.

I did like when they showed the highlight of his really long throw and Young immediately piped in with "I never could have made that throw."
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post #231 of 236
4/27/09 at 6:44pm
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Then they could look back at the end of the year and say "see what the Cutler deal brought us."
Except Moreno at 12 was their draft pick.

Broncos should have packaged their 18 and their #1 next year and move up to 3 or 5 because it was known KC wanted to trade and Cleveland eventually did. Draft the Best DL and then use the 12 for a top LB/DL. 2 huge holes on defense filled.
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post #232 of 236
4/27/09 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
Except Moreno at 12 was their draft pick.

Broncos should have packaged their 18 and their #1 next year and move up to 3 or 5 because it was known KC wanted to trade and Cleveland eventually did. Draft the Best DL and then use the 12 for a top LB/DL. 2 huge holes on defense filled.
The quote should have been "look at what the Cutler trade allowed us to do". Having 2 first rounders gave them the flexibility to take the RB.
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post #233 of 236
4/27/09 at 9:17pm
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Eric Cordo, Clearly Pat White is the best of Miami's Day 1 draft picks! Sure Corner Back is a need, But I wanted Kenny Britt Damn it, So, Day 1, I give Miami a B-. Without White a C.
Hey Fleed, have fun with Pat White. I watched him play for 4 great years. He's great.
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post #234 of 236
4/28/09 at 9:30am
Now there's word that they're talking about turning the draft into a prime-time mini-series. Round 1 on Thursday night, Rounds 2 & 3 on Friday, with the final rounds all day Saturday.
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post #235 of 236
4/28/09 at 10:13am
No. No no no. Not only is there too much conflict with NBA and NHL playoffs, the draft doesn't need to be drawn out over three days.
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post #236 of 236
4/28/09 at 10:26am
Pompoussory Estoppel, I was a little harsh on Miami for taking 2 cornerbacks in their first 3 picks. Now that they drafted 2 WR's and a TE, I am more than happy to give them an A for their draft, as I felt WR was a much bigger need, and that WR Kenny Britt looked like a more logical selection then CB Vonte Davis.

I am sure that Mel Kiper was puzzled by the Dolphin's 2nd rd selection of Pat White, as he feels White is a WR. However, Miami confirmed what their GM Jeff Ireland said about White in an interview "Pat White is going to be a QB" Jeff Ireland. That is not an exact quote, but close enough. Today, QB John Beck was released by Miami, and that means the 3 QB's on their roster are, Chad Pennington, Chad Henne, and Pat White. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Pat White unseas Chad Henne as Miami's Starting QB.
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