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post #51 of 70
4/21/09 at 11:51am
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Originally Posted by Humanoid View Post
I wish my stance on marijuana were as cut and dried as everyone else's. Unfortunately, I know quite a few people who have been permanently affected by it. One hasn't smoked for at least 5 years and still struggles to string together a coherent sentence. Myself, I've smoked 3 times in my life and the last time brought on some SERIOUS mental problems that are never going away.
Pretty sure that wasn't just straight cannabis you smoked. Likely mixed with something else.
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post #52 of 70
4/21/09 at 12:03pm
He wasn't messed up to begin with and the more he smoked the worse he became - it was something everybody assumed would just pass once he gave up smoking. On the other hand, I can't state to a medical certainty that the weed made him the way he is.

As for myself, it brought on something called Depersonalization Disorder, which is the sensation of not being in your own body. Like you're permanently watching everything through a TV screen. If you do research on it, you'll find a few who have complained that it was brought on by smoking.

EDIT: Ryan, perhaps it was mixed with something. I can't be sure.
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post #53 of 70
4/21/09 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by Humanoid View Post
He wasn't messed up to begin with and the more he smoked the worse he became - it was something everybody assumed would just pass once he gave up smoking. On the other hand, I can't state to a medical certainty that the weed made him the way he is.

As for myself, it brought on something called Depersonalization Disorder, which is the sensation of not being in your own body. Like you're permanently watching everything through a TV screen. If you do research on it, you'll find a few who have complained that it was brought on by smoking.
Interesting reading. Not to dismiss your experience in any way, but does anyone think legalizing it would cause increases in this kind of experience? I don't know anyone who can't get weed if they want weed. If you want to smoke weed, odds are you have. I don't think legalizing it will be waving in anyone who's held off from trying it thus far. Are there a lot of weed fence-sitters?
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post #54 of 70
4/21/09 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by Humanoid View Post
As for myself, it brought on something called Depersonalization Disorder, which is the sensation of not being in your own body. Like you're permanently watching everything through a TV screen. If you do research on it, you'll find a few who have complained that it was brought on by smoking.

EDIT: Ryan, perhaps it was mixed with something. I can't be sure.
I'm not as up on my drug knowledge as I used to be but I'm pretty sure your weed was laced with PCP. Which is all kinds of nasty.

A couple of months ago my father went through an extremely painful illness. So painful that he couldn't even manage two hours of proper sleep each day for a whole month. My mother's appalled reaction to my mentioning of maybe finding some weed for him to smoke reminded me of why even if it doesn't make sense legalization is still a long way off.
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post #55 of 70
4/21/09 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by Humanoid View Post
As for myself, it brought on something called Depersonalization Disorder, which is the sensation of not being in your own body. Like you're permanently watching everything through a TV screen. If you do research on it, you'll find a few who have complained that it was brought on by smoking.
Funny, I eat mushrooms to try to achieve this!

But yeah, I can see how that would become a problem.
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post #56 of 70
4/21/09 at 1:08pm
Who exactly is opposed to legalization? It seems to have a lot of popular support.
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post #57 of 70
4/21/09 at 1:10pm
To reiterate, I don't necessarily think it should remain illegal, I'm just not quite as passionate about the subject as I was back when I didn't feel like I was floating all the time.
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post #58 of 70
4/21/09 at 1:15pm
In terms of the negative effects, I just wonder how anyone can watch things like this and tell me why alcohol should be legal and pot shouldn't.
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post #59 of 70
4/21/09 at 3:12pm
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
Interesting reading. Not to dismiss your experience in any way, but does anyone think legalizing it would cause increases in this kind of experience? I don't know anyone who can't get weed if they want weed. If you want to smoke weed, odds are you have. I don't think legalizing it will be waving in anyone who's held off from trying it thus far. Are there a lot of weed fence-sitters?
It maybe a allergic reaction to the weed. Some times rarely autoimmune responses can cause permanent damages. My father is testing these little read pills, they are all natural, and good for you. They act like Supercharged Viagra, but some people have reactions to them, that is simply not intend. Anything that has a powerful effect on the body no matter how natural, harmless, or even good for you, can some times have side effects on some people.

I personally think all drug should be legalized for adults. Tax them and use the money for education and free rehab, much like the dutch do. But it will never happen. I saw a very good Doc a couple years ago on the subject. The US federal Government just has to much money invested in 'war on drug' to stop, and also a lot of black opp money is raised by the sale of illegal drug in this county. There is some truth to the saying that the US Government is the biggest drug dealer on the planet.
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post #60 of 70
4/21/09 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by eenin View Post
and also a lot of black opp money is raised by the sale of illegal drug in this county.
Can you explain this a bit more?
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post #61 of 70
4/21/09 at 4:37pm
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
Are there a lot of weed fence-sitters?
Not sure how many there are -- but I'm one.

It's been a strange progression for me, actually. When I was younger, I didn't smoke out of some misplaced righteous high-horse bullshit. When I got over that, I avoided it because I didn't want my family to find out and because I was afraid of getting screwed up by some stanky ass street weed or stabbed by a crackhead while trying to locate a proper dealer.

At this point, I'm still nervous about trying to acquire any...I've NEVER attempted to before and have no fucking clue how to go about it. Basically, even if I wanted to, I'm up a creek as far as execution.

I think the only way I would consider it is if I was with someone I trusted absolutely and 100% knew that what I was smoking was grade A.

As far as legalization? I think I'd still seek out trustworthy friends, but I would be much more likely to give it a shot if I knew there was at least some kind of regulation and quality control going into it.
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post #62 of 70
4/21/09 at 5:09pm
Jared, is your impression of drug dealing taken solely from 70s revenge thrillers? Because weed dealers are some of the least dangerous people I've ever met.
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post #63 of 70
4/21/09 at 5:16pm
Jared's in Texas. It's different there.
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post #64 of 70
4/21/09 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
Jared, is your impression of drug dealing taken solely from 70s revenge thrillers? Because weed dealers are some of the least dangerous people I've ever met.
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Jared's in Texas. It's different there.
Yeah, the knives they would use to stab me are bigger.

You know because everything's bigger in Texas.

See, I made a funny just there.

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post #65 of 70
4/21/09 at 7:53pm
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Originally Posted by FrankCobretti View Post
It's my understanding, based on the the newspaper articles I've been reading over the last six months, that marijuana is, indeed, a significant moneymaker for the cartels. So much so, in fact, that they're even financing and running farms within the borders of the U.S. The margin on pot isn't as high as the margin on heroin and cocaine, but they make their money on volume.

I mostly read The Washington Post, btw.
Could be; I don't think I was taking a hard "I'm right" stance on that one, I had just heard otherwise.
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post #66 of 70
4/21/09 at 8:26pm
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Originally Posted by Jared Melton View Post
Not sure how many there are -- but I'm one.

It's been a strange progression for me, actually. When I was younger, I didn't smoke out of some misplaced righteous high-horse bullshit. When I got over that, I avoided it because I didn't want my family to find out and because I was afraid of getting screwed up by some stanky ass street weed or stabbed by a crackhead while trying to locate a proper dealer.

At this point, I'm still nervous about trying to acquire any...I've NEVER attempted to before and have no fucking clue how to go about it. Basically, even if I wanted to, I'm up a creek as far as execution.
All my pot came from three types of people:

Old hippie who had garbage bags of the stuff laying around

White soccer players who listened to too much Tool and Pink Floyd

My cousin who dealt hydroponic out of his parents poolhouse.


Point of advice to any and all kids out there: If you're in High School and want to score some pot (or 'Cid or Shrooms) make friends with the soccer team.
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post #67 of 70
4/21/09 at 8:42pm
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Originally Posted by Bancroft Agee View Post

Point of advice to any and all kids out there: If you're in High School and want to score some pot (or 'Cid or Shrooms) make friends with the soccer team.
Working in a decent restaurant and cozying up to the sous chef probably isn't a bad move either.
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post #68 of 70
4/22/09 at 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
Can you explain this a bit more?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking
This pretty much high light the four major Scandalizes, involving the CIA, and drug trafficking. These four are all pretty well founded, or backed up. Whether any of the four are true or not is a matter for debate. CIA assets were involved in trafficking of illegal drugs, whether criminal act by those involved, or found raiser for black opps is pretty much the debate. If is it just a criminal act then why has no one ever been prosecuted for these crimes?
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post #69 of 70
4/22/09 at 4:23pm
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Originally Posted by Chavez View Post
Working in a decent restaurant and cozying up to the sous chef probably isn't a bad move either.
Stop spying on me, Chavez!
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post #70 of 70
4/22/09 at 11:25pm
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Stop spying on me, Chavez!
That's not me hiding in those bushes.
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