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post #1 of 31
Thread Starter 
Yeah, we went a little haywire last Fall. But, it's been awhile and I've got an itch again. Is this a good time to run this by the powers that be again?

If not one of Kirby's great ones, I'd be interested in a War Movies Draft for Memorial Day.
post #2 of 31
I've been toying with the Idea of sending a PM to Kirby for a while now... 90's draft sounds good.
post #3 of 31
I'd be up for a draft as long as it was a continuation of what we were doing before with the different eras.
post #4 of 31
I was thinking this too. It might be harder to participate for me, certainly on the discussion board, but I'd love to watch at the very least.
post #5 of 31
let it die.
post #6 of 31
Thread Starter 
You know what I do with topics I'm not interested in? I don't read them. Life's too short to be worried about how other people have fun.

I'll fully agree that Drafts have a signal to noise issue, that much of the discussion amounts to "good pick!/bad pick!", and it renders the rest of the Drafts & Lists category unusable during the period of a draft. (That said, other than the End of the Year lists, this category averages something like 3 or 4 non-draft topics a month for the rest of the year, so it's hardly busy.) And, some of the participants don't offer a whole lot. I think it should be mandatory to post just Why you picked what you did.

I'd count the plusses as:

1. It's a game. It's fun.
2. It often calls my attention to obscure movies which go right into my Netflix queue.
3. The genre drafts inevitably have at least some discussion about what defines a genre.
4. It's a game. It's fun.
5. I enjoy the social aspects. You do learn more about your fellow posters, their tastes, and idiosynchrocies.
6. Discussion of the merits of some films inevitably breaks out. Discussions that will involve movies other than Watchmen, Wolverine, Star Trek, Observe & Report, and Terminator, which seem to have absorbed much of the attention so far this year.
7. The discussions that do spin out tend to have multiple points of view, since people are approaching the draft with different strategies beyond good/bad.
8. Hopefully activity in one area of the board will spur activity in others. If I'm on the board, I'm certainly not reading just the draft threads.
9. It's a game. It's fun.
post #7 of 31
Seniors rule! Freshmen suck!
post #8 of 31
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Originally Posted by EvilTwin View Post
... and it renders the rest of the Drafts & Lists category unusable during the period of a draft.
I don't see how this is true.
post #9 of 31
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Originally Posted by Anderson View Post
let it die.
I concour, and that coming from the guy who ran the awesome hero/villian draft some time ago.
post #10 of 31
I had a lot of fun drafting last year.

I don't know if I'd be up for a War Movies draft. But definitely a 90s draft or something else of interest.
post #11 of 31
If the topic of the draft interests me, I'll participate in it. I don't plan on starting anymore of them, though.
post #12 of 31
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I don't see how this is true.
Really?

With the sheer amount of repeat viewers (the 16-20 drafters) swarming over one area and constantly posting update static. That fucking dominates this sub-forum. Hell, you can't even update any other thread without having to deal with it getting buried by someone really digging what someone else did at 9 am.

Then, there's just the moronic bullshit. It had its time and that time has sailed for awhile.
post #13 of 31
A 90's draft could be a vicious, mean-spirited bloodbath. I'd be onboard.
post #14 of 31
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Really?

With the sheer amount of repeat viewers (the 16-20 drafters) swarming over one area and constantly posting update static. That fucking dominates this sub-forum. Hell, you can't even update any other thread without having to deal with it getting buried by someone really digging what someone else did at 9 am.

Then, there's just the moronic bullshit. It had its time and that time has sailed for awhile.
None of that makes the forum useless. It's not like the other threads become inaccessible while a draft is going on. Maybe they're not on the first page of the "New Posts" page, but they're there.

There's just too much brow-furrowing going on over something that people have fun with. If you don't have fun with it, don't participate. It really shouldn't be inspiring this much hand-wringing.
post #15 of 31
There's not a lot of hand-wringing.

It's just that wasting time on who picked what John Candy movie is getting old.
post #16 of 31
The last draft was in November.
post #17 of 31
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
The last draft was in November.
Yeah. Where's the demand to have another one?
post #18 of 31
Thread Starter 
We were asked not to have another one for awhile. We complied with that request. What's that proof of other than we're willing to work with the powers that be? If there's enough people that show interest and we're willing to work to not disrupt others enjoyment of the board, what's the issue again?

I think there are work arounds for many of the issues. Someone could put a sticky on a topic like The Personal Criterion thread, so that wouldn't be lost in the traffic, for instance.
post #19 of 31
Draft Arguments Draft

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post #20 of 31
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Draft Arguments Draft

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Show me Shit's Gone Stale.
post #21 of 31
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Show me Shit's Gone Stale.
Exactly. There's already five pages of perfectly good bickering on the subject already. Just trying to spare y'all some typing.
post #22 of 31
Moltisanti's post in that thread might be the best individual post of all time.
post #23 of 31
Thread Starter 
In an effort to be constructive and meet the critics halfway, how can drafts be made better?

I have some ideas.

1. I think we all agree that being on the message board is a privilege, not a right. I see nothing wrong with restricting that privilege further for who can participate in a draft. Contribute something useful in another thread. Or write an essay of some substance on why you should be included in the current draft.

2. Set some minimum level of participants to justify the interest in the subject. Two dozen, perhaps.

3. Institute a rule that before you draft again, you have to write something substantial about your pick. Not a novel, but I don't think it's too much to ask for a couple of paragraphs. That will insert some more substance in the discussion thread. There still likely will be some noise, but a thread with over 100 mini-essays on various films is going to have substance.

4. Sticky the topics that people don't want messed with before the draft. Like The Personal Criterion thread. I agree that good regular topics shouldn't have to be hunted down.

Any other ideas?
post #24 of 31
Being one of the culprits who ran these into the ground, I sincerely apologize to those of you who were eagerly awaiting another Kirby draft. I know at one time he was itching to do a 60's draft before the 90's draft, and that would have been great.

I've read the discussions, both sides of the argument, and perhaps because I'm a simpleton, I still don't understand why these drafts ruffle so many feathers. I can't speak for others, but I find them very fun, and even stimulating, every draft I've participated in has led me to titles I've never seen, and led to some great discussion for me as well.

I just don't get why they have to be justified as any more than fun.
post #25 of 31
Put the drafts on hold till the Babe Draft makes it's glorious return.
post #26 of 31
I don't mind whether one happens or when, be it now, the summer, the fall or never. But if you're having 60's, 90's or War movies, i'm in.

That is all.
post #27 of 31
I'd be highly interested in a war movies draft.

I still don't think I have the post count to be considered for the babe draft.
post #28 of 31
Thread Starter 
I'd like to hear from Kirby if he plans on continuing his Decades drafts. I'm actually more up for the 60s instead of the 90s, but either one should be fun.

If a Decade draft isn't planned and nobody else wants to run it, I'll run through the prelims for a War Movies draft and see what I can do so that we can address issues ahead of time. Maybe time it for around the 4th of July or when G.I. Joe opens as a contrast.
post #29 of 31
I'm popular today. Or a week ago.

I'll consider it. I'll have to PM, Nick.
post #30 of 31
Thread Starter 
We love you Kirby.
post #31 of 31
I hope your still thinking about the 60's draft. Think that would be a blast.
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