Gilmore Girls Discussion

Really?

This site reviews Smallville every week. Let's not get too judgmental.

I've been told, time and again, by ladies mind you, I would really love this show. I've never given it a shot but at some point, when I've used up all the other TV shows, I will watch it, just to prove a point. I don't know what point I will be proving but I know what little manliness I have will go away.

This a great show.I started watching it on The Family Channel last year.Caught a couple episodes & was hooked.I love the dialogue between Rory & her Mom.

Probably my favorite family type show since Little House on the Prairie.

The easiest way I've been able to sell it to men is that it's Buffy without vampires.

It was a wonderful, funny show, and it handled the unfortunate departure of its creator a lot better than some other shows I can think of. Those first couple seasons are just lovely tv that's "heart-warming" in the non-manipulative, non-saccharine sense. The episode where Christopher's parents go to dinner with Loraleli's parents and the subsequent episode where Richard has a heart attack are the two examples that spring to mind. Also the one where Rory breaks up with Dean and she tells her mother about it.

But then, I'm a big girl. I watch Gossip Girl and The O.C.

Also, I did not know until recently that Sean Gunn (Kirk) is James Gunn's brother.

I happen to like Logan, but as can be seen in the unlikable characters thread, my taste in characters can be considered suspect.

Incidentally, let me join the "I like this show" crowd.

Just for the record, I think Jess was more interesting and possibly "better" than Logan and I tiptoe around this point not to begin arguing like a 14 year old girl over who should Rory had ended up with, but I can't deny liking Logan quite a bit.

Oh yeah, I'm a fan. I started watching when I heard rumors that Aaron Sorkin was writing it under a pseudonym. It was, for its first four, four-and-a-half seasons, one of the most dramatically and comically rewarding shows on TV. And I'm in awe of its consistency of tone for those first four years. It's rare to find a show that doesn't significantly shift its take on its characters or its style of storytelling over that kind of period of time.

Regarding Logan, he worked as a foil for Lorelai's vision of Rory (which was basically that she was trying to raise a clone of herself). Logan is everything that Lorelai rejected when she left home, and Rory's relationship with him (which, not coincidentally, peaked at the same time Rory moved in with Emily and Richard) was a great in how it made Lorelai squirm.

Logan as a serious romantic option for Rory, though? Terrible idea, as evidenced by the last season. And, sorry Rath, there aren't enough invectives in the English language to describe how terribly that last season betrayed the characters and ethos that the show had worked so hard to build.

Big fan of the show. Show knew what it was, who the character was and even though most will tell you the show went to shit when the original creators left... that's when it picked up for me. That's when the show finally taking some big "risks" with its characters, which was greatly needed.

I should point out that I didn't watch the last season, fearing a Sorkinless-ization of the characters. So I only know Logan from seasons 5 and 6.

They stayed solid with Logan. That and they sent off the characters in a reasonable manner, seeing as the original creators came back for the send off.

Lorelai wakes up and realizes it was all a dream. Rory is still a young girl and Lorelai hasn't met Luke yet.

Ooops, sorry.

Oh, that and all the coffee they drink? De-caffeinated.

Noooooo they didn't. Palladinos were absent throughout the final season, including the finale.

I thought they came back for the finale? If not, it was still decent how everything wrapped up.

The finale itself was not terrible. Just about everything leading up to it was.

But I come to praise Gilmore, not to bury it...

This show has some of the greatest dialogue of anything ever on television. Period. I hate it when people write it off because it aired on the WB or, heaven forfend, has "Girls" in the title.

That being said, the show also had a lot of weaknesses, mainly in the plotting department. It also went on about two years longer than it should have, but no show is perfect.

Also, it's fairly heinous that neither Lauren Graham or Kelly Bishop got Emmy nominations over the show's 7 years.

Also: A Film by Kirk.

An Interpretive dance to Koyaanisqatsi by Kirk.

Kirk performing a romantic duet from "Fiddler on the Roof" opposite a 12 year old.

Kirk was awesome.

The earliest GG thread on the boards, here. If you click 'search by thread' you can view titles alphabetically, and most of the Gilmore stuff is around page 80 in the Television forum. We also had some good discussions around the DVD reviews.

I'm still too hurt from Season 7 to go back and re-watch. All in good time.

I really liked this. The rhythm of the show's dialogue would often remind me of an old screwball comedy and I loved this about it. Plot wise it tended to get a little bit lost on 'will they, won't they' stuff but the character moments were spot on most of the time.

Besides because of this I got really into Lauren Graham which made her turn in Bad Santa ( "Fuck me Santa! Fuck me Santa!") that much better.

Well at the very least this is a useful thread to alert me as to which of my fellow chewers have manginas anyway...

I'm glad someone found the old thread. I can't use the new site's search engine to find anything.

I didn't like the last season. Seems like Lane was the only one who was "herself" there. It wasn't terrible that they took chances, it was terrible that they seemed to make things move way too fast and suddenly.

For me, Paris was the only character to make it through the entire series unscathed. I swear Liza Weil was writing her own dialogue by the end.

She was also my favorite character, a far more realistic portrayal of a brilliant, motivated student on the fast-track to the Ivy League than Rory ever was.

It's not too surprising considering the creator and her husband left the show. I didn't dislike season 7 as much as some people, but it definitely wasn't quite the same.

Especially because hard-core students tend to be more socially inept, which was definitely a Paris trait, not a Rory one.

Problem is, Amy Sherman-Palladino and Daniel Palladino probably wrote about 75% of the episodes in the first six seasons. Not "tweaked the scripts of the other writing staff," wrote them from start to finish. And her writing style is so idiosyncratic that it's not surprising the tone and pace of the show shifted dramatically.

How did I miss this thread? Not that I have anything to add: love the show, skipped the post-Palladino era.

They did fiddle about with Rory not functioning well outside her supportive Stars Hollow environment, but never in a permanent way.

My favorite Paris line, until I look up fifteen more: "You look like little birds dress you in the morning."

There were rumors in the last season of actors getting a lot more say in how their characters behaved, and in a few cases, that's pretty easy to believe (Miss Patty, for example, is a completely different character in Season 7). The implication was that Sherman-Palladino's style was...demanding.

Talk about how characters are "completely different" in season 7 makes me back-pat myself for the self-restraint in not watching it.

Thing is, to this day, if we were to discuss Toby Ziegler in the West Wing, at some point in the conversation we'd get to the last season, and you'd see me change posture and begin to get angrier and angrier much like Deadwood's George Hearst in that particular scene with Alma, to the point to the point where I might start berating innocent bystanders. I'd rather that not happen with Gilmore Girls too, a show that despite the snickering of many, I happened to dearly love for a while.