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post #51 of 70
5/8/09 at 1:54am
I have you beat, Francis: I dodged bad Gilmore AND bad West Wing. Ah, unruined memories.
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post #52 of 70
5/8/09 at 5:22pm
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Francis, I see.

With the exception of a little bit from the final stretch, I skipped most of Buffy..., after season 4. How's that?
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post #53 of 70
5/8/09 at 7:44pm
You must watch Buffy Season 5. After that, exercise best judgment.
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post #54 of 70
5/9/09 at 3:49pm
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I've tried going back and catching later episodes I skipped when they first aired, but they just don't hit me like the earlier seasons.

Speaking of fifth seasons, the catch-up has reached Logan's "arrival." Just watched the Life and Death Brigade article episode. The stand-out moment was Dean leaving Rory in front of Logan, et al. Jared Padalecki's deliveries were great throughout the scene, easily my favourite Dean moment ever.
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post #55 of 70
5/13/09 at 8:11pm
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Watching "But Not as Cute as Pushkin." Snort-laughed at the David Eggers poster in Rory and Paris' common room. Who d'ya reckon put that up?
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post #56 of 70
8/30/09 at 8:59pm
Going through season one right now, and digging the shit out of it. Will indeed have to get the others in all due time.
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post #57 of 70
8/30/09 at 10:27pm
I'm of two minds about this show: on one hand, I love screwball, and I think that (Whedon aside) there is no modern era show that's been as successful in writing sharp, quick witted hilariou repartee in that particular mold as Gilmore Girls. At its best I feel like I'm watching vintage Hawks. And I'm not allergic to soppy will-they-won't-they romance either, so the dramatic parts are fine by me.

But what sorta ruins it all for me is that they go waaay too far in prettifying the idyllic small town life. I've only seen the entire first season, and I gather that towards the end of the show Rory is living in the big city and whatnot so I'm sure it has a different flavour, but the thing is, almost every one in that village who isn't a Gilmore, love interest or Lane is a hideous monster stereotype of small town whimsy. Sookie and Michael Gerard are particuarly egregious examples - these characters add nothing but the lamest of comic relief, and moves like that made me give up on the show.

(Granted, it could easily be argued that larger-than-life stereotype supporting players are kind of omnipresent in classic screwball as well, but at least they feel less anachronistic when they show up in Bringing Up Baby.)
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post #58 of 70
8/31/09 at 12:11am
I keep hearing people talking up a possible film. Is there even a remote chance in Hell it could ever happen?
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post #59 of 70
8/31/09 at 12:58am
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Originally Posted by DanielRoffle View Post
Sookie and Michael Gerard are particuarly egregious examples - these characters add nothing but the lamest of comic relief, and moves like that made me give up on the show.
I'll give you Michel (even though I loved him), and characters like Taylor, Babette, Miss Patty and Mrs. Kim. But Sookie? She had her share of dramatic storylines, starting as early as season 1. I can understand not liking the character, but she was hardly just comic relief.

Loved this show, even though it probably should have ended a few seasons before it did. Paris was definitely a favorite:

(Paris and Rory come in from outside, soaking wet)
Girl in Hallway: Hey, is it raining?
Paris: No, it's National Baptism Day. Tie your tubes, idiot.

As to the movie, I think it's just entertainment writers expressing their own personal wishes more than anything else. I wouldn't hold my breath.
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post #60 of 70
8/31/09 at 9:59am
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I'll give you Michel (even though I loved him), and characters like Taylor, Babette, Miss Patty and Mrs. Kim. But Sookie? She had her share of dramatic storylines, starting as early as season 1. I can understand not liking the character, but she was hardly just comic relief
Yeah, I remember something along those lines, but as far as I can recall, her dramatic arc was done in a very patronising, "goofball has feelings, too" way. It's been a very long while since I saw it, though, so I might be being unfair.

That line you quoted, however, is awesome and a perfect example of the show's screwball genes.

Much love to Lane too, for being by far the most hardcore music geek ever seen on mainstream television. Fairport Convention!
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post #61 of 70
8/31/09 at 11:14am
What surprises me the most is just how Goddamn baby-faced Jared Padalecki is compared to Supernatural and Friday the 13th.
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post #62 of 70
8/31/09 at 5:37pm
I'm consistently charmed by this show. Any fan of great dialogue (and great delivery) should check Gilmore Girls out.

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The easiest way I've been able to sell it to men is that it's Buffy without vampires.
This might be the most effective/persuasive summation of the show that I've heard. Nice one, Justin.
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post #63 of 70
9/1/09 at 6:58am
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This might be the most effective/persuasive summation of the show that I've heard. Nice one, Justin.
I agree, Jesse. However, remembering this thread, I actually used that pitch on a very genre-friendly guy, last week. It made him very skeptical. He, essentially, said "was that not the main reason to watch Buffy?" Very surprising.
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post #64 of 70
9/1/09 at 8:29am
You know, I could picture some of my friends dismissing Buffy as "Gilmore GIrls with vampires", sadly.
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post #65 of 70
9/1/09 at 10:06am
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He, essentially, said "was that not the main reason to watch Buffy?" Very surprising.
To quote Strother Martin: "Some men, you just can't reach."
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post #66 of 70
3/6/10 at 11:29am
Hey man, I take it all back!

Well not entirely, but I've been catching reruns of season 2 and Sookie does become a much more nuanced character, the QUIRKY supporting players are toned down a bit, it feels a lot more confident and less cloying than season one.

I totally don't understand Joss Whedon's diss against this - something to the effect that it's all awful things happening all the time - in fact the show's pretty laid back about bringing the drama, much moreso than most of Whedon's stuff.

References in the past few episodes: Flaubert, The Shaggs, Bukowski, The Outer Limits. It's amazing how behind its autumn leaves chick show facade this really might be the biggest hipster show of all time.
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post #67 of 70
3/6/10 at 2:39pm
Have you gotten to the Claudine Longet reference? Maybe one of my favorites.

P.S. For those in need of a Lauren Graham fix, Parenthood looks promising.
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post #68 of 70
3/6/10 at 3:55pm
I actually had to look that one up. Touché, GG.

The whole Ayn Rand thing is a bit 0_o, tho. I'll admit I never read The Fountainhead, but is there really a school of thought celebrating it as good literature, ideology aside? I've never come across it before.
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post #69 of 70
3/6/10 at 7:29pm
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What surprises me the most is just how Goddamn baby-faced Jared Padalecki is compared to Supernatural and Friday the 13th.
The fight between Jess and Dean was hilarious. Dean, in reality, should have been able to clobber him in 5 seconds.

I loved the show...right up until Rory got criticized by her boss at the paper and then had a tantrum and stole the boat. Season 5 and 6 were better than 7, but not by much. The idea of Rory being the darling brainchild of Stars Hollow and then going off into the city where there are millions of girls like her was a good idea, but they dropped the ball.
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post #70 of 70
7/31/11 at 12:11pm

Love this show, even some episodes from the last season. I don't know how intentional it is but there's a weird message in GG: Rory ends up exactly what Emily and Richard would've liked Lorelei to become: a Yale graduate who's dating a rich, privileged Yale graduate. And non-privileged people (Marty, Dean) are weirdos who deserve to get dumped.

 

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The exception to this is if a non-privileged has his/her own business, like Lorelai, Sookie, Luke, Liz, Jackson and, eventually, Jess. Plain workingmen and -women suck. Except Kirk.


Edited by Virtanen - 8/1/11 at 12:19am
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