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post #51 of 86
Attaboy, Judas!

That's something to consider, for all you parents that is. Teach your kids how to deal with bullies, but also how to defend themselves. Martial arts are pretty good, as they're mostly defensive and teach kids discipline and confidence. Case in point: back in high school, I became friends with an exchange student from England named Scott (AD&D and Dr. Who fans, unite!). He looked nerdy (always dressed up for school - he stood out amongst a sea of jeans and t-shirts) and most kids thought of him as an easy mark, but that son-of-a-gun could fight like nobody's business (he got hassled by this one bully at our bus stop once. Once. Then he spun around and knocked four of the bully's front teeth out with one shot).

It's thanks to Scott and the shit he taught me that I learned how to defend and stand-up for myself. We lost touch after high school, but wherever he is, thanks, dude! England rules!
post #52 of 86
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Keifer took the 24 crew for a "night" out on the town. By night I mean, they arrived at 7 a.m. and partied 'til 1 p.m. I seriously need to hang out with this guy.
post #53 of 86
I'm adding Kiefer's liver to my Official 2010 Dead Pool.
post #54 of 86
SCOTCH + Coke?! Blasphemy.
post #55 of 86
Reminds my of Easter Sunday with my family.
post #56 of 86
Two things:

7am isn't crazy when you're doing a night shoot.

500 bucks for 30 people really isn't that horrifying a tab.
post #57 of 86
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500 bucks for 30 people really isn't that horrifying a tab.
Yeah, over here 16$ are not enough for any kind of serious drinking.
post #58 of 86
16$ will get you ONE drink here at a bar. And Whisky and Coke is great.
post #59 of 86
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16$ will get you ONE drink here at a bar. And Whisky and Coke is great.
If someone mixes a single malt with anything other than water, that person deserves to be punched. Blended malts are free game.
post #60 of 86
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I'm not a fan of Coke (unless its in powder form :P), but I like mixing whiskey or bourbon with ginger ale.
post #61 of 86
I'll mix "whiskey" or bourbon all day (though I still prefer to have a better quality version on ice or neat). But fuck mixing the scotch. Either get a good/decent on on the rocks or neat, or don't mess with it.
post #62 of 86
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post #63 of 86
Cut him some slack. He's had a couple of very traumatic hours of late.
post #64 of 86
Those pictures are better than season 8.
post #65 of 86
He is from England y'know - this is how we spend our evenings...

Besides, he looks happy.
post #66 of 86
Kiefer REALLY likes taking his shirt off when he goes drinkin'.
post #67 of 86
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And pants

post #68 of 86
And underwear?...
post #69 of 86
Stained.

He was defusing a dirty bomb, it seems.
post #70 of 86
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Stained.

He was defusing a dirty bomb, it seems.
winner.
post #71 of 86
Kiefer to his belt buckle: "Don't fight it!"

I love this guy. He never fails to entertain.
post #72 of 86
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And pants

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to go there: we see pics of Kiefer disrobing in public and being escorted drunk off his ass out of clubs and we chuckle. Lohan does the same and we're on Death Watch. Why? Is it because he still has a successful career, or because he doesn't do it every single night as Lohan seems to?
post #73 of 86
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Why? Is it because he still has a successful career, or because he doesn't do it every single night as Lohan seems to?
Because he's actually talented.
post #74 of 86
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Lohan's on Death Watch because she's literally almost ODed several times due to her partying. She goes out drinking night after night, dragging her underage sister with her, blowing off important meetings with agents, probation officers, and court depositions. She doesn't just get caught drunk in the street like Keifer. She gets caught stealing a car with three passengers in the back seat and having a high speed chase down the Pacific Coast Highway. On several different occasions, she crashes her car into trees leaving them on the side of the road with packets of cocaine strewn all over the floor. She gets busted for a DUI and brings cocaine into jail with her, then claims the bags found in her pants pocket weren't hers because she's wearing someone else's pants. Which may be true because she been busted for stealing people's clothes and then getting caught by the paparazzi wearing the stolen clothes. She's a fucking menace to herself and society and no one seems to give a shit, the least of whom are her parents. But also the law. She was busted for 3 DUIs in 3 months and spent a total of 80 minutes in jail. She is also a liar who tells the press she's clean and sober and then is photographed stumbling out of clubs every night at 6 a.m. She's a goddamned junkie that either needs to be in court ordered sobriety living or in jail. Which Dr. Drew suggested and got flack for. She needs serious help and I wish someone would give it to her. Cause she will end up dead soon. It's only a matter of time.
post #75 of 86
Jesus, can you imagine what it must have been like when Sutherland and Charlie Sheen used to party together back in the day? Clothing being thrown off willie nillie, women getting black eyes left and right, vomit flying in every direction...
post #76 of 86
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Jesus, can you imagine what it must have been like when Sutherland and Charlie Sheen used to party together back in the day? Clothing being thrown off willie nillie, women getting black eyes left and right, vomit flying in every direction...
Lou Diamond Phillips hog-tied and dropped off on the side of the highway.

Hey, it could have happened ...
post #77 of 86
You know what they say. Like father, like son.



post #78 of 86
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Jesus, can you imagine what it must have been like when Sutherland and Charlie Sheen used to party together back in the day? Clothing being thrown off willie nillie, women getting black eyes left and right, vomit flying in every direction...
Throw a little vintage Gary Oldman into that mix and I wanna party with you, cowboy.
post #79 of 86
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Because he's actually talented.
Robert Downey Jr. is mighty talented, and nobody was laughing at his drug addiction.

Look, I'm not trying to defend Lohan. It can't be done even if I wanted to, but I do find the vastly different reactions to the same behavior to be odd. I sense it's more a gender thing than a talent thing.
post #80 of 86
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Lohan's on Death Watch because she's literally almost ODed several times due to her partying. She goes out drinking night after night, dragging her underage sister with her, blowing off important meetings with agents, probation officers, and court depositions. She doesn't just get caught drunk in the street like Keifer. She gets caught stealing a car with three passengers in the back seat and having a high speed chase down the Pacific Coast Highway. On several different occasions, she crashes her car into trees leaving them on the side of the road with packets of cocaine strewn all over the floor. She gets busted for a DUI and brings cocaine into jail with her, then claims the bags found in her pants pocket weren't hers because she's wearing someone else's pants. Which may be true because she been busted for stealing people's clothes and then getting caught by the paparazzi wearing the stolen clothes. She's a fucking menace to herself and society and no one seems to give a shit, the least of whom are her parents. But also the law. She was busted for 3 DUIs in 3 months and spent a total of 80 minutes in jail. She is also a liar who tells the press she's clean and sober and then is photographed stumbling out of clubs every night at 6 a.m. She's a goddamned junkie that either needs to be in court ordered sobriety living or in jail. Which Dr. Drew suggested and got flack for. She needs serious help and I wish someone would give it to her. Cause she will end up dead soon. It's only a matter of time.
No disputing any of this, and she certainly has more of a reputation for this sort of thing than Kiefer. Maybe it's just me, but it feels like female celebs with substance abuse issues take a lot more shit than male stars. Nick Nolte gets busted and everyone laughs at his crazy mug shot. Kiefer gets a DUI and jail time and he's in and out of there with barely a blip on the radar. Paris Hilton goes to jail and when she's released, a fucking phalanx of paparazzi are there to document it. Nicole Richie gets a DUI and OMG SHE'S OUT OF CONTROL WHAT A BAD GIRL WHOA! Britney Spears gets gurneyed out of her house and it's breaking news on CNN.com. Now, you can make the statement that these are bigger name people than Kiefer and Nick Nolte and thus they garner more attention, but the manner of the attention has always boggled my mind. The problems of the men are mostly laughed off, unless there's some extra-salacious tidbit that comes with it. Mel Gibson's sugartit rant falls into this category. Or if it's a case like Downey throwing away chance after chance by relapsing, and he's treated mostly with sympathy and well-wishes. But the problems of the women are often treated as dire life-shattering cries for help.
post #81 of 86
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Robert Downey Jr. is mighty talented, and nobody was laughing at his drug addiction.
But people were willing to forgive him quickly. Even if Lohan sobered up and turned her life around, it's not like her career would all of a sudden go through the roof. Downey Jr, Mickey Rourke, Sutherland are too talented to stay down. I would even add Drew Barrymore to a certain extent. I don't think gender has much to do with it. Corey Haim got his fair share of shit in the 90's from the press but I chalk him up with Lohan. They hit at a point where they had some success but were not talented enough to keep it going so people aren't willing to "laugh it off" or forgive them as easily.
post #82 of 86
I think there's also a difference in the perception of someone with a drinking problem and someone whose basically a junkie. Keifer definitely has a drinking problem but there aren't stories of him stealing clothes, missing court dates and losing movie roles as a result of it. In fact he's been the star of a successful (albeit long past its due) TV show with a pretty intense filming schedule. Lohan can't even get on set on time. The Lohan stories used to get laughed off too until it seemed like there was a new one every other week and she started to look ten years older than she is.
post #83 of 86
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Originally Posted by HarleyQuinn22 View Post
Sorry, but I'm gonna have to go there: we see pics of Kiefer disrobing in public and being escorted drunk off his ass out of clubs and we chuckle. Lohan does the same and we're on Death Watch. Why? Is it because he still has a successful career, or because he doesn't do it every single night as Lohan seems to?
Personally speaking, you can walk into any club up and down Britain and find at least five guys like Kiefer Sutherland acting like a fucking moron after a heavy night of drinking. It's not that shocking.

You don't see a whole lot of people stumbling around like a coked up zombie the way Lohan does, the girls a disaster and can't keep her shit together at all. Sutherland cuts loose, and may get a bit crazy with it, but the guy still works his ass off when he has to... No one is worried about Sutherland because he's not sabotaging his entire career/life due to his partying.

Then again, maybe a drinking binge is responsible for him agreeing to star in Mirrors, who knows?
post #84 of 86
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Originally Posted by HarleyQuinn22 View Post
No disputing any of this, and she certainly has more of a reputation for this sort of thing than Kiefer. Maybe it's just me, but it feels like female celebs with substance abuse issues take a lot more shit than male stars. Nick Nolte gets busted and everyone laughs at his crazy mug shot. Kiefer gets a DUI and jail time and he's in and out of there with barely a blip on the radar. Paris Hilton goes to jail and when she's released, a fucking phalanx of paparazzi are there to document it. Nicole Richie gets a DUI and OMG SHE'S OUT OF CONTROL WHAT A BAD GIRL WHOA! Britney Spears gets gurneyed out of her house and it's breaking news on CNN.com. Now, you can make the statement that these are bigger name people than Kiefer and Nick Nolte and thus they garner more attention, but the manner of the attention has always boggled my mind. The problems of the men are mostly laughed off, unless there's some extra-salacious tidbit that comes with it. Mel Gibson's sugartit rant falls into this category. Or if it's a case like Downey throwing away chance after chance by relapsing, and he's treated mostly with sympathy and well-wishes. But the problems of the women are often treated as dire life-shattering cries for help.
This entire argument is bogus because you're drawing conclusions by labeling one group "men" and the other group "women," when you really should be labeling the one group "legitimate performers" and the other "media whores."

And there are certainly men out there who fit that latter category. But when you compare the way Robert Downey Jr. or Kiefer Sutherland are treated vs. Paris Hilton or Nicole Ritchie, of course there's a difference. But it's not because of gender. It's because two of them actually contribute other things to society beside showing up on TMZ.
post #85 of 86
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RDJ and Keifer's antics get covered by the media and its not all good. Throughout much of the 90's, RDJ's name was dragged through the mud and people thought he'd never work again. But he cleaned his act up and slowly built up his reputation. And Keifer, who still slips up now and then, doesn't think he's above the law. He doesn't claim that he didn't do what he gets caught by the media doing. When he got busted for a DUI in 2007, he plead no contest and spent 48 days in jail. He didn't walk out after 80 minutes.

The only reason why Lindsay gets more press is because she parties more often. She goes out night after night. She gets fired from jobs for not showing up, and famously had a producer of a movie she was working on call her out in front of the entire nation. Lindsay's on death watch because she is literally going to die soon. She pours vodka into water bottles and spends hours in club bathrooms, but claims she's sober.

The reasons for the disparate coverage of Keifer and Lindsay is because they couldn't be any more different in terms of their actions. There are plenty of times to play the gender card in terms of media coverage, but this isn't one of those times. Lindsay is a fucking mess. Keifer sometimes drinks too much.
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