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post #51 of 107
5/7/09 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by HBarr View Post
Yeah, but you took it back up in 1982.
The Falkland Islanders wanted to remain British.

I understand why the elephant had to be show down in that video, I was just loving the dramaticness of the footage of it walking.
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post #52 of 107
5/7/09 at 2:35pm
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Originally Posted by Russ Fischer View Post
No, you come from a country where it's acceptable to find a place thousands of miles away, displace and dehumanize the people that live there, and then kill things on THEIR property.
India Shmindia Russ, someone killed a DEER.
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post #53 of 107
5/7/09 at 2:36pm
If you wanna be technical, we took it up back in 1815.

But we digress.

As for that circus elephant, any discussion about him being in captivity in the first place notwithstanding, that elephant was rampaging.
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post #54 of 107
5/7/09 at 2:39pm
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9170009AARnUCC

That's a lot of meat...
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post #55 of 107
5/7/09 at 2:43pm
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I do believe we passed that mantle onto you guys in the 1940s.
Don't forget the Suez war and Kenya.
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post #56 of 107
5/7/09 at 2:45pm
Please to help - in accompanying picture, which one is the elephant?

Thanks in advance.
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post #57 of 107
5/7/09 at 2:46pm
Nice derail. Reminds me of the bit in the Today Show where John Oliver was trying to convince the tea-baggers that the British empire was worse than Obama.
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post #58 of 107
5/7/09 at 2:46pm
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Originally Posted by Stormin View Post
Don't forget the Suez war and Kenya.
The Mau Mau War is utterly disgraceful, especially because we were essentially using the tactics of the Germans less than a decade after the Second World War to commit war crimes. I think that that really was Britain's last gasp at being a world power.
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post #59 of 107
5/7/09 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post
This must be a cultural issue. I come from a country where it's not acceptable to kill things which are on your property.
Which is bullshit. I'm all against animal cruelty and everything, but I consider anything that enters my house without permission and tries to steal/kill/destroy the contents of my domicile fair game for me to kill with impunity.
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post #60 of 107
5/7/09 at 3:19pm
There's a fairly famous case of a farmer in Ireland by the name of Tony Martin who shot one of two burglars on his land and ended up serving life for it.

The UK's legal system is retarded in that it doesn't seem to allow homeowners to protect themselves for fear of legal repurcussion - whether you'd actually let that thought come to your head whilst defending your family is another question, but it's an unfortunate truth.

Also, i'm pretty sure you have to judge these things on a case-by-case basis, the deer breaking into the house could well have posed a threat to the guy's family and I think that's more than justified in putting it down if you've no option. But there's your own personal ethics to take into consideration - if the animal can be contained, i'd say there's no reason not to do so.

Killing an elephant in cold blood isn't something I find cool, no matter how efficiently it's done. I was raised to believe killing without provocation is wrong but I appreciate different cultures view killing animals differently.

Shake, are you originally from the UK?
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post #61 of 107
5/7/09 at 3:35pm
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Originally Posted by Bees?! View Post
There's a fairly famous case of a farmer in Ireland by the name of Tony Martin who shot one of two burglars on his land and ended up serving life for it.

The UK's legal system is retarded in that it doesn't seem to allow homeowners to protect themselves for fear of legal repurcussion - whether you'd actually let that thought come to your head whilst defending your family is another question, but it's an unfortunate truth.

Also, i'm pretty sure you have to judge these things on a case-by-case basis, the deer breaking into the house could well have posed a threat to the guy's family and I think that's more than justified in putting it down if you've no option. But there's your own personal ethics to take into consideration - if the animal can be contained, i'd say there's no reason not to do so.

Killing an elephant in cold blood isn't something I find cool, no matter how efficiently it's done. I was raised to believe killing without provocation is wrong but I appreciate different cultures view killing animals differently.

Shake, are you originally from the UK?
No, American midwesterner all my life.

And while I find the woman in the OP article to be a vicious reprehensible bitch of the highest magnitude and find people who hurt animals without provocation to be the serial-killer-in-training dipshits (like this capital-A Asshole), if something or someone attacks me in the street or in my home I'm damn sure going to attack right back.
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post #62 of 107
5/7/09 at 3:53pm
Then how could you call his assumption than our culture is different to yours bullshit if you've not lived here? I'm not saying what he says is true (because people do vary wildly) but it does seem like the UK does have a different attitude towards animals.

I wouldn't want to claim we're a nation of animal-loving hippies who go out of their way to hug an enraged Stag, but i'd certainly go out of my way to isolate the problem, get my family to safety and get the appropriate help - if it's simply a violent animal then it's a loss on my part, insurance pays for the damage i've sustained and life goes on - but not all animals are trying to kill you. What if it's simply wounded and delirious?

EDIT: You've added to your post. If I was attacked in the street, i'd attack back too. It really is a case by case basis.
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post #63 of 107
5/7/09 at 3:54pm
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello View Post
I'd like to see you kill an elephant with one shot.
There a Famous longbow hunter, named Robert Hill I believe who did do that. The man hunted every animal with an English longbow. He did it about 100 years ago, though.
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post #64 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:09pm
So many crying vaginai in here. How does this have any impact in your life?
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post #65 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:13pm
It has none, neither does your input. It's a discussion, contribute.
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post #66 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:14pm
You're all ignoring the elephant in the room.
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post #67 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello View Post
I'd like to see you kill an elephant with one shot.
With a bazooka? A TACnuke? Would it be OK if I just poison its food? If there's an elephant here in the Washington Metro area and I want it dead, it's dead. Unless I make it obvious to the animal that I am attacking, in hand-to-errrr-hoof combat or at least with a melee weapon, it isn't even a contest. There's nothing impressive there.

So she has good aim from 12 yards with a heavy draw? Ok, that's fine for what it is. But I betcha my unathletic ass (haven't fired a bow in 7-9 years) COULD hit a target square from 12 yards with a heavy-draw bow if you give me 4-5 shots. So what is so awesome about her?
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post #68 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by Van Read View Post
So many crying vaginai in here. How does this have any impact in your life?
I've always thought this argument is ubelievably retarded. Are you seriously saying you never even have the slightest interest in anything that happens outside of the confines of your own life? Never read the news, never watch TV, never take an interest in the lives of your friends and family, never read books, it's all just totally irrelevant to you? Why are you even talking to people on the internet?

People care when bad things happen, it's called having empathy.
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post #69 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:26pm
I think everyone here has been missing the point, except for Alex. A woman killed an elephant with a bow and arrow. We shouldn't criticize her, we give her a medal, or a championship belt or something.
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post #70 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by Misfit View Post
You're all ignoring the elephant in the room.
This post should have happened a long time ago.
Thanks for putting things in the right perspective.


ETA: Goddammit Hellephant
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post #71 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:30pm
Let me know if you guys would see this movie:

A woman kills an elephant with a single shot on a bet. This elephant doesn't stay dead, however. It comes back from beyond the grave to exact its revenge, leaving the woman in a terrifying fight for her life against the undead pachyderm.



Title: Hellephant.
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post #72 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:34pm
Fuck that woman. Check this shit out.
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post #73 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:34pm
In the sequel, it goes to college.

Title: Pachydorm.
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post #74 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:36pm
Tagline: Don't look in the trunk.
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post #75 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by Eric Cordo View Post
I think everyone here has been missing the point, except for Alex. A woman killed an elephant with a bow and arrow. We shouldn't criticize her, we give her a medal, or a championship belt or something.
I think it's obvious all she really wants is that dessert.
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post #76 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:40pm
Beware the prequel, set on a ship: Mastodon.
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post #77 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:43pm
Isn't that already a movie?

ETA: Can't find it on IMDB so I guess not! Production has to start right away.
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post #78 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:52pm
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Originally Posted by HBarr View Post
Beware the prequel, set on a ship: Mastodon.
Ah, will it be penned by the famed playwright, David Mammoth?
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post #79 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by Mattioli View Post
Ah, will it be penned by the famed playwright, David Mammoth?
I'm going to have to go with "Winner!" for this one.
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post #80 of 107
5/7/09 at 4:56pm
This thread went from 'huh' to 'fucked' to 'oh christ, kill it already' to 'win'.

hehehe Pachydorm...I'm still giggling about that one.
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post #81 of 107
5/7/09 at 5:01pm
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Originally Posted by Rob View Post
Fuck that woman. Check this shit out.
That's just fucking AMAZING.
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post #82 of 107
5/7/09 at 5:05pm
Indeed. That's some fucking hunting.
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post #83 of 107
5/7/09 at 5:31pm
At least there's no video attached called 'Shake That Pachyderm'...
(shudders)
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post #84 of 107
5/7/09 at 6:55pm
Don't you see? She has to shoot the elephant, lest the Burmese villagers realize that the white man isn't all-powerful, and the British Empire be rent asunder by the dark-skinned...

Wait, am I doing this right?
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post #85 of 107
5/7/09 at 9:11pm
Can I shoot this fucking bitch with an arrow and let her bleed out through the night?

You don't have to make a bet with me or anything.
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post #86 of 107
5/7/09 at 10:20pm
It's only fair that the elephants get their own wager.

Elephant 1: Hey, look at that dumb human.
Elephant 2: I bet you can't get your tusk all the way up her ass.
Elephant 1: Can too.
Elephant 2: Maybe like a foot but not the whole thing.
Elephant 1: You sir, have yourself a bet.

They shake trunks.
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post #87 of 107
5/7/09 at 10:29pm
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post
I was just loving the dramaticness of the footage of it walking.
Did the English language break into your home & require wrestling until you snapped its neck?

And Misfit wins for the "ignoring the elephant in the room" post.
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post #88 of 107
5/7/09 at 11:52pm
I get the whole bet part (stupid as it is), buy why hunt an elephant in the first place? Does their hillbilly tribe want for elephant meat?

+1 to Russ for "bowgoggles".
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post #89 of 107
5/8/09 at 2:52am
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Originally Posted by gravedigger View Post
I get the whole bet part (stupid as it is), buy why hunt an elephant in the first place? Does their hillbilly tribe want for elephant meat?

+1 to Russ for "bowgoggles".
I love the fact too that she quite comfortabley states she was surrounded by a herd of elephants, so it was hardly a 'hunt' per se, the bet simply was she couldn't draw the bow in the first place.

Surely there were better ways to prove said bet that didn't involve leaving an elephant to slowly bleed to death over the course of an evening.
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post #90 of 107
5/8/09 at 4:34am
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Originally Posted by Rob View Post
Fuck that woman. Check this shit out.
Holy fucking shit! He run down a fucking antelope. I can't tell you how amazed I am at this.
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post #91 of 107
5/8/09 at 11:37am
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello View Post
Look- I'm not saying what she did was right, but it's a pretty goddamn impressive thing to kill an elephant with an arrow. They don't go down easy. That's all.
It's really not. Why? Because it's a FUCKING ELEPHANT. Its neck is the size of a tree. It's like firing an arrow at a house from 40 feet. Woo.
Killing a running rabbit with an arrow is impressive, randomly firing into something the size of three vans and waiting for it to bleed is not.
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post #92 of 107
5/8/09 at 11:48am
You're wrong. Not hard to hit it, sure, but to kill it? You either have to be a great shot or incredibly lucky.
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post #93 of 107
5/8/09 at 12:01pm
She didn't kill it, it bled to death. She probably hit it in the neck and then waited 12 hours. Which, as has been stated here, is despicable according to all hunting standards and practices.

When you're literally in a crowd of elephants (as stated) and take aim and fire at a GIANT UNMOVING target.... wow that's some skill.
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post #94 of 107
5/8/09 at 1:16pm
Someone sounds awfully jealous that he didn't get to travel to Africa and spend thousands of dollars to kill an elephant!
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post #95 of 107
5/8/09 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by Justin Clark View Post
The whole idea of anyone living within 100 miles of a McDonalds in this day and age killing a living thing for any reason other than self-defense is fucking retarded, full stop.
Even the guy at the slaughter house that provide meat for McDonalds? 'Cause, ya know, someone's got to turn the cows into beef.
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post #96 of 107
5/8/09 at 4:56pm
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Originally Posted by Ryan Bean View Post
She didn't kill it, it bled to death. She probably hit it in the neck and then waited 12 hours. Which, as has been stated here, is despicable according to all hunting standards and practices.

When you're literally in a crowd of elephants (as stated) and take aim and fire at a GIANT UNMOVING target.... wow that's some skill.
Most bowhunting is about equally stupid. Unless you've got enough power to shoot through the heart (or cervical spine) of the animal, you're not going to kill it quickly. It's not the most humane kill.

That said, neither is fishing, now, is it?
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post #97 of 107
5/11/09 at 11:00am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/8043880.stm
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post #98 of 107
5/11/09 at 11:14pm
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Originally Posted by Bees?! View Post
Culling is one thing, it's necassary. THAT is not culling. That is some fucking asshole who needs a serious fucking beating.

Disgusting.

I should probably stop coming into this thread, it literally makes me shake with anger.
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post #99 of 107
5/12/09 at 2:36pm
What was the bet? "I bet you couldn't hit the broad side of an elephant!"
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Originally Posted by Bees?! View Post
That is one wild & crazy roo.

EDIT: And for the record, unless you're feeding your family, this kind of stuff is truly uneccessary. I'd do it if the apocalypse came (maybe) and needed to survive, but I'd also target the more uglier (and prolific) animals like feral pigs and gator (I live in FL). Meat is delicious, but I don't know if I could pull the trigger myself, especially presently.
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post #100 of 107
5/13/09 at 6:38am
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Originally Posted by Belethedheliel View Post
Most bowhunting is about equally stupid. Unless you've got enough power to shoot through the heart (or cervical spine) of the animal, you're not going to kill it quickly. It's not the most humane kill.

That said, neither is fishing, now, is it?
True story, weekend before last the wife and I were in London visiting her sister. Chap next door had just sold his tropical fish tank (sans fish) on ebay and had sold all bar one of his fish. The last remaing fish was a timid (but butt ugly) cichlid, which he had put into a bucket and left to die in the garden. Now we have a pretty big tropical fish tank and the wife suggested we try and take the thing home with us. Everyone else was of the opinion that it was just a fish and "it's not like its a dog or anything" but the wife insisted so we drove home there and then with me carrying this fish in a plastic container on my lap.

The fish survived the Journey and lives happly in our tank now. But the whole incident made me question why some animals are valued higher than others.
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