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Dead lawyer accusses president of Guatemala of murdering him

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
This seems like something out of a bad crime mystery TV series ...



http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americ...ing/index.html

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Guatemalan President Alvaro Colom has dismissed an allegation that he was behind the death of a lawyer who left a video blaming the president if anything happened to him.
A video with Rodrigo Rosenberg appears on YouTube in which he accuses Guatemala's leader in his death.

A video with Rodrigo Rosenberg appears on YouTube in which he accuses Guatemala's leader in his death.

The lawyer, Rodrigo Rosenberg, was shot and killed Sunday while riding a bicycle in Guatemala City.

On Monday, a video surfaced in which Rosenberg -- seated behind a desk and calmly speaking into a microphone -- linked Colom and an aide to his death.

"If you are watching this message," Rosenberg said on the video, "it is because I was assassinated by President Alvaro Colom, with help from Gustavo Alejos," the president's private secretary. Rosenberg mentions a third person who he believes would have been involved in his death and also mentions those three people as well as the president's wife in connection with two killings last month.
He was killed last Sunday, the video was made last week and released at his funeral on Monday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxZptUp9a44
post #2 of 16
We can even screw you after we die. That's fucking beautiful, man. The moral of the story:

Don't. Fuck. With. Lawyers.

Why do you think they were the 1st thing on Warren Zevon's wish list in "Lawyers, Guns & Money?"
post #3 of 16
Great, yet another thing Mexico can make fun at Guatamala's expense.
post #4 of 16
So will there (or can there) be an independant investigation into this? Seems pretty damning on the surface.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
President Colom has asked the FBI and UN comission to investigate the matter independently. He talked with the US embassador to Guatemala about this, although I don't know why the FBI would do this ... is there any precedent?

This is a pretty weird case.

I guess a UN commission would be the only option.
post #6 of 16
If invited in, I guess the FBI could consult. But they'd have no real arrest authority, particularly if it turns out the president IS responsible.
post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 
I just don't know why the FBI would bother, or who would pay for it. If they come up with a finding of "guilty" it could be a political landmine for the US too.

Makes you wonder why the guy didn't escape the country in the first place. Of course, maybe that was not a choice at all. But man, can you imagine knowing you are going to get killed and you're just waiting for it to happen like this?
post #8 of 16
Wow, in the movies you always hear the guy say "if anything happens to me, I've sent ______ to _______ which will incriminate you." but you rarely see it realized.
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
I just don't know why the FBI would bother, or who would pay for it. If they come up with a finding of "guilty" it could be a political landmine for the US too.
I imagine the only reason they'd bother would be if President Obama ordered them in, and he'd only do that, I guess, to score points w/ a foreign power in the region. I assume they'd get paid by us, their standard salaries w/ maybe a "combat pay" type bonus for being in the filed for an extended period. But I'm just guessing. You know who might have real insight into this is Death Surge.
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
It's possible this video could have gotten him killed.

If enemies of the president of Guatemala got wind of this video, they might have just killed him for this. But, the accusations are pretty damming in the video and the timing is really amazing.

Until they resolve this it's hard to see how he can rule effectively though.
post #11 of 16
I've always thought it would be a pretty good practical joke to set up something like this naming one of your friends as your killer in case you die in an accident. Boy, the look on their face when the police show up and accuse them of murder would be priceless.
post #12 of 16
If you are reading this, Misfit has already killed me.
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by Syd View Post
If you are reading this, Misfit has already killed me.
Put two caps in the back of Syd head, and just walk away.
post #14 of 16
Looks like Syd made his last fugee face.
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by IggytheBorg View Post
We can even screw you after we die. That's fucking beautiful, man.
Great. Litigation of the Living Dead. "When there's no more room in Hell, the dead will give depositions!"

Still, pretty freakin' ballsy that this guy's named his killers from beyond the grave.

R.I.P. Syd. We hardly knew ye.
post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 
Seems like it was a suicide, should have been able to guess it!

http://www.guatemala-times.com/news/...s-suicide.html

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Guatemala: Rosenberg murder was suicide

Guatemala City. Guatemala's Rosenberg murder was suicide, according to today's statements of Dr. Carlos Castresana, Director of the CICIG, International Commission against Impunity, entity in charge of the investigation of the Rosenberg murder.

Lawyer Rodrigo Rosenberg was killed on May 10, 2009 while riding his bicycle in Zona 14 of Guatemala City.

The intellectual authors of the murder of lawyer Rodrigo Rosenberg where his cousins and friends, businessmen Jose Ramon Francisco and Jose Estuardo Valdez Paiz. The brothers Valdez Paiz where identified by 11 suspects arrested in September 2009, for shooting lawyer Rodrigo Rosenberg on May.10, last year. But in reality it was Rosenberg who asked the brothers Valdez Paiz to help him to order a hit. The brothers did not know that the hit was on Rosenberg himself.

He was severely disturbed by the murders of Kalil Musa and Marjory Musa, he was sentimentally linked to Marjory Musa, also his mother had recently died.


After the murder of the Musa family members he tried to prove that the government and other officials he named in the video where responsible for Kalil and Marjory's Musa´s murder. He could not find any proof. To intimate friends he says repeatedly "I am disintegrating emotionally, I am in despair and there is no justice in Guatemala."

Previous to his death, he buys 2 graves, one for himself and one for Marjory Musa. He leaves all his personal and professional issues in order. He announces to his staff at the office that he will retire from the law office. He leaves lawyers in charge of legal issues of his children.

In his disturbed and depressed mindset he decides to order a hit on himself and to make the video launching murder accusations and accusations of other illegal activities - money laundering and corruption, against the current government. Rosenberg made the video with the help of journalist Mario David Garcia, Luis Mendizábal distributed copies at Rosenberg's funeral.

In a video released after his death, Rosenberg accused President Colom, his wife and other high ranking government officials to have ordered his killing.

After the murder took place, President Colom required the assistance of the FBI and CICIG to investigate the crime and stated that he was innocent.


Rosenberg's murder was used by the right wing conservative interest sectors of Guatemala to try to remove Colom from office. The media and right wing bloggers played a key role in inciting the public to protest against Colom and to demand his resignation. The exception in the Guatemalan media was The Guatemala Times and the newspaper "La Hora". Oscar Clemente Marroquin, President of La Hora, maintained an objective editorial and reporting line.

The mobilized the middle and upper classes demanded that Colom step down and the country's poor where mobilized to stand behind the head of state. It was a very serious political crisis for the government.
The case was less important internationally for the murder than for the political campaign springing from it, a campaign to remove Colom from office. That would have been a giant step backward for the country's fragile democratic institutions.

The first arrests came in September and Castresana said then that the suspects were members of a gang dedicated to kidnapping, extortion and murder-for-hire.
December 10, 2009, arrest warrants where extended for the Valdez Paiz brothers. They disappeared and have not been located to this day.

CICIG requested a media blackout of the case to avoid further killings related to the case. An investigator of the Public Ministry in charge of the Rosenberg case was murdered last year and the media had been leaking information related tot eh investigation. .
Today's Press Conference was organized by Dr. Castresana to provide first hand information about the case and end the rumors and speculations in the press.

Present at the Press conference was Guatemala's Attourney General Amilcar Sarraté who introduced the case at the Press Conference. Several ambassadors of the countries that support the efforts of CICIG where present as well.

Castresana expressed that this case had special relevance because of the impact it had on the political situation and governance in Guatemala.

Castresana stated that in Guatemala had 6,451 violent deaths, with an impunity rate of 96.5%.
Castresana indicated that Guatemala's Attorney General had been an active part of this investigation since the beginning.

More than 300 people had been involved in the investigation, from eleven countries.

CICIG started the investigation on the 10 of May, the same day that Rosenberg was killed. CICIG had been alerted about the murder before it became public knowledge because the case was considered of extreme importance.
Surveillance camera footage obtained from several residences of this residential area provided the evidence for CICIG to start to track down the murderers. The cars used in the killings where filmed, the owner of the cars where identified.

That is how CICIG started to identify the people involved in the crime.
The cell phones of the suspects where intervened, and CICIG and the Public Ministry where able to identify all the members of the gang and the intermediaries who contracted the killers.

Rosenberg told Luis Medizabal that he was receiving death threats from a certain phone. After the murder, Luis Mendizabal told CICIG that Rosenberg received death threats from a specific phone, from the 5 to 10th of May 2009.

A person gave the instruction to buy the cell phone to Luis Lopez, he told him to never give a name, but he did, that is how CICIG was able to track down the owner of the phones.
Two phones where bought on the 5th of May.
Vide camera footage showed that this cell phones where handed over to the driver and body guard of Rodrigo Rosenberg.

Interviewing employees at Rosenberg's offices, CICIG established that it was Rosenberg who ordered to buy the cell phones.

Experts established that Rosenberg made the death threat calls himself, from one cell phone to a second cell phone at his own residence.

One of the phones was send by Rosenberg with his bodyguard to the brothers Valdez Paiz.

Luis Alejos, was friend of Rodrigo Rosenberg, he send the check of $40,000 from Panama to the offices of Rosenberg by DHL.
The secretary of Rosenberg sends the check to Francisco Valdez Paiz. Valdez Paiz realizes the purpose of the chek and decides not to use it.
Luis Alejos did not know what the money was to be used for.

Conclusion: Rodrigo Rosenberg ordered a hit on himself. It was suicide.

CICIG will continue to investigate other pending issues.
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