Glee - Page 2

Push It and Single Ladies are the types of things I hate on paper. Watching both numbers, though, I haven't laughed harder in months. Kurt's scenes with his dad were really well done. I was worried they were going to make the dad a stereotypical Midwestern homophobe. Good to see they made him a loving dad who has trouble relating to his son, but just wants the best for him. It reminded me of some of the best moments of King of the Hill.

Loved the dad's "Oh, he's so little," when he saw Kurt on the football field.

I thought this was actually the strongest episode so far. It didn't have a showstopper number like the pilot, but the characterization and plotting was the best they've done, I think.

I hope they stick with Sue's Corner too. She supports littering so the garbage men can buy tacos for their families. Such a softie.

They've definitely been fleshing out the characters, but I'm not sure I know where they are going with the tone of the show. I was expecting something along the lines of Scrubs, where it's 90% goofy fun and musical numbers with a continuing thread of relationship arcs. But two pregnacy stories in two eps, not to mention the bad boy poolboy fucking his best friends girl (so Desperate Housewives!), puts this on a soap opera level of cheese that I'm just not interested in watching.

Isn't the show 90% goofy fun with musical numbers?

I love the mailman bit. The Single Ladies dance is still funny every time I watch it.

Not with the recent storylines of cheating girlfriends, lying wives, and two pregnancies used as a means to keep their man. Also, Kurt coming out to his dad is not exactly "goofy fun", though I think its a topic they handled well and worked in terms of his story arc this episode.

I would venture that there's some goofiness in the idea that Kurt's orientation isn't completely obvious to everyone, but it's also kind of sweet.

Thought this episode was awful, after really liking the last one. Will give it one more shot.

I think this is the best show that's not on cable, actually.

No offense, DaveB, but the last thing this show's about is verisimilitude. It's a broad musical comedy, full of stereotypes - but that's what makes it work. That said, I don't know how long they can keep it up. Three seasons, max.

I'm really glad that the "coming out to Dad" bit wasn't stretched out for a bunch of episodes. I don't think it would have been right for them to wring all that drama on what is still a very sensitive issue for a lot of people. They handled that just right.

Jayma Mays' accent was slipping a bit this week. If she ever goes full Virginian I might just die of adorableness.

Gonna have that Queen song running in my head all day.

Solid from top to bottom this week, the rendition of maybe this time actually took my breath away.

4 weeks in I am now at the point where I don't understand why anyone would not love Glee to pieces, unless you just really dislike musical numbers because I can see how that would be a dealbreaker in this case.

I'm very impressed by their ability to sustain having several impressive musical vignettes in each episode. Still not sure they can do it for 22 episodes, but I'm giving them all the rope they need to get there. Also impressive is how cheerfully mean-spirited the show is while still managing to be a really happy show.

Chenoweth as the guest star threatened to take over the show in an unpleasant manner, not that Chenoweth is unpleasant, just that when guest stars come in and suddeny the whole show is about them it can be unpleasant. Hello, 30 Rock season 3. That last number, Somebody to Love, was fantastic.

Glee, thanks for becoming my new favorite show.

I haven't watched this week's, but the actions of the wife are just reprehensible. I know they're playing it for sympathy, but the stuff with Quinn is just...do not want.

Rest of the show's great, though.

can someone please make a .gif of Tobolowsky's "YOU SUCK!"

I can't believe I like this show so much, on paper it is exactly the kind of thing I would hate, but man is it fun. I imagine the ratings for this would be very good.

I really want to love this show but something is not clicking. I find it enjoyable, so I'll continue watching it, but its far from a home run for me.

I did find Chenowith to overshadow the episode, but since I dig her and it was a one-time stint, I wasn't bothered too much. I wish they could have woven her story a little more seamlessly with the kids' though.

Also, where did all the other Glee kids come from? A few episodes ago they were struggling to find members, now it looks like they have 20 or so kids. I guess some are the Cheerios, but I didn't get the sense that they all crossed over. Just the main three as spies for Lynch. And the other guys didn't look like the football squad. Who are these people?

This. The hammering home of each week's theme is abusive. Lats week's every character uttered something about "confidence". And in this week's ep, Rachel's "I'm a star" diatribe was bordering on Michael's "They took my boy!" mantra from Lost. I Wanted to punch her in the face by the end of the ep.

Haven't seen the Chenoweth episode yet, but the one before that just wasn't holding my interest at all. The non-singing parts just feel like typical high school drama with some quirks thrown in, and the singing parts feel like belabored efforts NOT to be typical high school drama.

Yeah, but even broad musical comedies don't always lay on the production - they allow for underplaying sometimes. There are big numbers, and there are small numbers. It just doesn't make sense dramatically when what's supposed to be a scaled-down practice run through some song sounds exactly like or better than the fleshed-out stage production.

This latest episode was a bit better in this regard, although I still think a slight variance in quality would help illustrate both the internal arcs of the club learning new material and the greater arc of the club becoming a contender on the local, regional, and national circuit. The show keeps telling us they're just barely adequate without their star players, but showing us repeatedly that they're all Broadway-level performers.

You have the 6 origional(Rachel, Finn, Mercedes, Kurt, Artie, and Tina) followed by Quinn, the 2 Cheerios, Puck and his 2 football buddies. That is the magic number(12) that allows them to participate in regionals. Artie also has the Jazz band in some numbers(cowboy one) which is why you may think there are more than 12.
You can never have enough Chenowith.

Thanks.

Agreed.

Lea Michele will be on Letterman tonight.

Behold the power of a good stylist, although I prefer her in subdued cute HS mode.

1st 13 on DVD/BluRay
Called Season 1 Volume 1 Road to Sectionals

I'll wait for the full season set.

I'm torn on this show. I'm sick of the adult storylines and over-produced music, but Jane Lynch and the Glee kids keep me watching.

Also, the boys totally won the competition both on song choice and choreography. Did anyone start laughing during the girls' performance because it reminded them of this? I fucking lost it.

Actually I think the adult storyline where really strong and well handled this week, the overproduction is a slight misstep but song choices and charisma more than make up for it.

Lea Michele keeps getting cuter and cuter though, her morning routine slayed me particularly the song choice, and Lynch is the icing on the whole cake.

It certainly is somewhat unique compared to what else is out there currently.

I'm so over the the wife, her fake pregnancy, and the whole storyline actually. I almost wish her character didn't exist. It's just filler IMO.

They so obviously want Will and the guidance counselor to get together, it's like they're making his wife as unlikeable as possible so viewers won't turn on him for being attracted to someone else.

I have a feeling she will not be around too much longer, I actually enjoyed the Wife's mustache twirling this week, it dot feel as misplaced as earlier in the season, Will and Emma are probably going to get together simultaneously with Flynn and Rachel at the finals over a montage, all things considered, but that would also leave the well dry for the next season.

I love this show but this episode was weak sauce. One cliche after another. The only things I liked in it were the performances and Jane Lynch.

jane lynch saves this show.

I'm probably done with Glee solely due to this element.

This show has everything going for it: a great cast, the originality of being a TV musical, a deep melancholia parading as forced happiness. People may carry the show just for these elements, but it still has a long way to go before being good TV. After this last episode, I'm convinced that the tone and even the identity for the show has yet to be chosen, and until that happens, the show will be in constant flux. Some characters are human, some are cyphers, some are walking plot movers. Having a "How can I kill the Power Rangers THIS week" type villain is pretty funny, but nothing else on the show matches that tone. Terri and her problems aren't interesting. At first, I thought she was horrible as a sly way to bring out Will's implicit pathetic nature, but they went to far and the result is that I can't even care about Will anymore because he's such a fucking idiot tool.

If Glee ever gets truly awesome, let me know and I'll jump back on because I really want to like it.

Dear Jane Lynch,

I love you. I have for a very long time now. Just when I think you can't get any more hilarious you top A Mighty Wind with 40 Year Old Virgin with Role Models with Party Down with Glee. Never change.

Love,
dajuice

Yeah, last night's was terrific, especially after last week's terrible episode. Back on track. Jane Lynch was awesome.

This episode was a prime example of Glee at both its best and worst, or more accurately, a really good example of how this show just has no clue how it wants to operate. Glee very obviously takes place in an off-kilter reality, as is Ryan Murphy's usual procedure, but just how fantastical does this show want to take it?

We're immediately off to a rocky start with the far too meta line about Will and Sue's competing voiceovers. Adding to that was the increase in moments in this episode more in line with a full-blown musical. Granted, that has occurred before, such as the car wash scene in a past episode, but it went into overdrive tonight with two songs, neither of which were all that good, to be honest. I mean, Quinn's song didn't even make thematic sense.

Then when you might think the show is just gonna start running in a more fantastical direction, we start getting indications that Sue, who up to this point has been just the most extreme, offensive, over-the-top (and of course hilarious because, come on, it's Jane Lynch) caricature just might be human after all. These characters just keep fluctuating from extreme stereotypes meant to be over-the-top to regular human beings. I can dig either, and honestly there can be a middle ground, but we keep hitting extremes. Hell, I'm not even sure if the show wants us to like Quinn at all. It changes from week to week.

Also, while I love some of the songs on this show, it's getting a bit ridiculous. How many different songs do they keep throwing in one week never to be heard again? I get that a huge chunk of the fun in this show is in the performances, but I keep wondering just how they're gonna be in good shape come competition time if they never settle on a single song. This is another area where the show keeps faltering. One week they're struggling and have trouble getting into songs, then tonight they break into "Hate On Me" immediately. If they keep giving us these big, elaborate performances right away, I expect to be floored come competition time. Seriously - they better have something huge planned or it's going to be extremely anticlimactic. Along those same lines, they seriously need to cut back on the autotune. Highlight of tonight was easily the much more natural sounding jam session. Easiest way for better sound? Kick Finn off those leads and give them to Artie. Much better voice.

As for the Terri/pregnancy plot line? I was digging Terri's lunacy until tonight, but it just went a little too extreme for me. This needs to get finished up soon. Will is dumb, it's in his character, but he can't be this dumb for too long. Terri's arrangement with Quinn doesn't even really work, when you think about it. The timing of the pregnancies is way off and there's just no way she could get Quinn's baby without someone knowing. Just a dumb plotline. Also, Terri's sister should just die in a fire between episodes or something.

Sorry to get carried away, just got on a roll. I'm still enjoying the hell out of the show, don't get me wrong, but it really needs to find its footing here soon or it's just not gonna work.

You hit exactly what's so frustrating about this show. I enjoyed this ep immensely because Jane Lynch is awesome, but you hit the nail on the head when all of a sudden she did a switcheroo at the end. I literally said WTF?! My comparison with Scrubs was apt. They want the show to have some fantastical elements with some real emotional heart, but Glee is just not executing it well.

Also, the Nelly song, which came off as a fun jam session (as intended), just proved how overproduced the other songs are. Can Fin even sing? His singing voice sounds nothing like like his speaking voice. There are background guys who sing and dance better and are more attractive. I don't get his appeal.

It's just disappointing because I want to love this show, but its making it real hard for me.

Agreed that it's still finding its footing, but I'm still enjoying the shit out of it.

Evil Cunt Bitch Wife From Hell needs to die. Seriously, her whole storyline just drags everything to a grinding halt whenever she's on screen. Her shit even drags down the Emma stuff which I like.

And I kind of liked Quinn's cheesy realization that the popular crowd aren't her true friends... but I'm a sucker for high school cool person realizing their inner nerd storylines ( if for no other reason that it's the opposite of what happens in every other teen movie/show ever.)

I was surprised by Sue giving just giving up, confessing, and backing off of Glee at first. Then she said she knew about Quinn's pregnancy. Then we find out she was responsible for making it public. Then the previews for next week show Quinn and Finn as social outcasts, presumably because of the pregnancy and Sue's manipulations behind the scenes. It wasn't a reversal; it was a change in strategy.

I thought "Set Me Free" was entirely appropriate. She felt trapped.

Glee lost me. Maybe it will find its footing later. There's always Netflix if it does.

How? Her goal is to destroy Glee. Making Quinn and Finn social outcasts doesn't have anything to do with that goal. She was just being spiteful because Quinn didn't entrust her with that info, and the pregnancy jeopardizes the Cheerios success.

I could buy Sue staying aboard because Glee's success is her success, and she loves to take credit for everything. But wanting Glee to succeed is a reversal from her wanting to destroy it.

I thought her goal was to win nationals with the Cheerios, not destroying Glee?

Both. She thinks Glee's success takes away from hers and the Cheerios.

But she realizes she must now put up with the fact her lead cheerio is pregnant, and Will is not going to lay down, the whole point of last nights episode, I believe its called character development.

It works on that base level of being trapped, but the song itself is very specifically about a girl who is stuck in a relationship because the guy won't let her go. Quinn, however, is the one trapping Finn in a relationship by lying about the baby being his. Even though they plan to give up the baby, it's very clear she's using it to maintain and reinforce their relationship because he's (sadly) the best chance she has of getting out of that town.

However, I get why they used it. Like you said, it is about being trapped, and it also continues Quinn's solo being girl group songs. So it both serves her vocal stylings and is consistent.

It doesn't fly with the bull-headed stubborn person we've seen and they certainly didn't show enough to convince that she would flip in a matter of a day. Breaking a bull ain't easy. And the transition was way too abrupt. There was never any indication she was softening. It literally happened over night.

Plus it gave her an excuse to shake her ass in the Cheerios skirt, which are conveniently split to show more leg. (kudos to the costume department)

I'd like to see it transition into an even more hightened reality, honestly. With more spontaneous songs/montages ala the car wash a few weeks back.

Or, as she said herself in ep 2, "God bless the pervert who designed these things."

See, I thought the interpretation of "Set Me Free" was about Quinn being caught between being a cheerleader and being pregnant.

And yes, more fantasy numbers please. I'm curious to see whether we'll see more performances from characters outside of Glee Club-- so far I think the only instance has been that quick cut of Emma howling "All By Myself" in her car.