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post #1 of 342
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Torero Israel Lancho gets gored by a bull today in Madrid.

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He's in critical condition.

http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Mundo/0...+DE+MADRI.html

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2009/0...243453381.html
post #2 of 342
Shouldn't stab a bull then.
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It's always nice to see a wounded animal try and kill the fucker trying to kill it for the adoration of idiots.
post #4 of 342
Well deserved. Fuck this guy right in that gore-hole.
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When I was in Spain a few years ago all of my friends went to see a bull fight but I didn't want any part of it. I know it's part of their culture and history, but seriously it's time to move forward. I hope that guy stayed conscious for ever second of that, and gained some empathy as he was being held three feet off of the ground by the bull's horns.
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Torero Israel Lancho gets gored by a bull today in Madrid.

Shouldn't that read Torero Israel Lancho gores bull today in Madrid, gets what's coming to him.
post #7 of 342
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So what happens to the bull in this case? The bull "won", does it get to go free?
post #8 of 342
I think he gets a job playing the Principal in the remake of The Breakfast Club.
post #9 of 342
Cool!
I hope the guy dies.
post #10 of 342
Who was the Chewer who had a hard-on for bullfighting and its "rich history" or some such nonsense?
post #11 of 342
But it's a culturally significant spor--aah, I can't even get worked up enough to muster some half-assed sarcastic defense of it. I hope the guy is alright (but not immediately, mind you) and that he learns a valuable lesson: bulls will fuck you up.
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I'm all for human rights and usually hate real-life violence, etc, etc, but seriously, everything about this picture makes my fucking day.
post #13 of 342
That bottom pic just might be my new desktop image for a while.
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post #15 of 342
We have footage!

The clip starts with the goring, then pretty much shows the whole bullfight including the goring (in delightful slow motion and multiple angles at the 3:35 mark).
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"A fumble is a fumble when he fumbles, and that my friend was a fumble!"

OR

“This guy brings his load, and this guy has his load over here, and BAM, they go load to load.”
post #17 of 342
Ernest Hemingway wrote a whole stupid book defending bull fighting that can basically be summed up as "It's part of their culture, it's artistic somehow! How dare you try to tell me I can't enjoy animal cruelty!"

Fuck that shit, this guy deserved what he got. There's nothing artistic or special about making a bull charge around a ring until it's almost too tired to move and then stabbing it a bunch.
post #18 of 342
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You all are just succumbing to your anti-Spaniard British Imperialist selves!!!

Well ... not really. I don't even know if you can have an argument about this is you don't come from Spain. I've never understood the whole appeal of the thing.
post #19 of 342
Timothy wins.

*golf clap*
post #20 of 342
Fuck you people. A human being was just impaled.

Animals are not equal to us. This is how we eat them. And quite a bit of cruelty is needed for these meals.

He willfully engaged in this, knowing it may result in personal harm; but thinking a bull has any concept of "revenge" and then ridiculing somebody for being fucking impaled is damn cuntish and inhumane.

When was the last time a bull consoled you in the midst of a break-up with somebody?

Yes, that is how far people are going with anthropomorphizing.

It's a shitty day for humanity when we don't triumph over nature; which actually does not have feelings.
post #21 of 342
That post gets better with every single edit, louse.
post #22 of 342
Louse, you're a fucking idiot.
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Louse, you're a fucking idiot.
Don't get me wrong, I want you to keep posting, Russ. But that would be a great farewell post.
post #24 of 342
You fuck with the bull, you get made fun of on the boards.
post #25 of 342
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Fuck you people. A human being was just impaled.

Animals are not equal to us. This is how we eat them. And quite a bit of cruelty is needed for these meals.

He willfully engaged in this, knowing it may result in personal harm; but thinking a bull has any concept of "revenge" and then ridiculing somebody for being fucking impaled is damn cuntish and inhumane.

When was the last time a bull consoled you in the midst of a break-up with somebody?

Yes, that is how far people are going with anthropomorphizing.

It's a shitty day for humanity when we don't triumph over nature; which actually does not have feelings.
I bet you're one of those guys that didn't really think Michael Vick did anything wrong. And you're right, the bull had no concept of revenge. Just a biological imperative to survive.
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It's a shitty day for humanity when we don't triumph over nature; which actually does not have feelings.
I gotta disagree with you there, louse. It's a good thing that we get gored by bulls or eaten by sharks or sucked up by tornados every now and then. It helps keep us humble.
post #27 of 342
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When was the last time a bull consoled you in the midst of a break-up with somebody?
lol!
post #28 of 342
But seriously, this was the best French Open ever. I'm kind of glad Nadal lost.
post #29 of 342
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It's a shitty day for humanity when we don't triumph over nature; which actually does not have feelings.
Oh, so Mother Nature wants a favor, eh? Well she should have thought of that before she started plaguing us with floods and droughts and poisonous monkeys. Mother Nature ''started'' the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's ''losing?'' Well I say hard cheese!

Dreary you really are a gift of hilarity that keeps on giving round here. You're like our very own cartoon villain-idiot.
post #30 of 342
Nature isn't there for us to "triumph over" it. We aren't outside of nature; we're part of it.

And if that animal didn't have feelings enough for its agony to enrage it, bullfighting would never have been invented.

It's a rare case when you can pass judgement on a human being based on a couple of photos, but this piece of shit was committing torture for the amusement of a live crowd when he got his.

We've been invading the wrong countries.
post #31 of 342
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We've been invading the wrong countries.
Overreaction, perhaps?

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Nature isn't there for us to "triumph over" it. We aren't outside of nature; we're part of it.
We are, but it wouldn't hurt the human race at all if you were gored. Something which separates us from animals is our sense of individuality. As in, somebody would care if you were gored. But it wouldn't hurt the species' progress one bit. And if I was gored, well, some would clap; the individuality premise is still involved.

For an example of what I consider triumph over nature...smallpox. Was our evolutionary pattern hampered by it? I haven't heard of this.

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And if that animal didn't have feelings enough for its agony to enrage it, bullfighting would never have been invented.
My point was that we project the images we want onto animals. These aren't correct or wrong. Those who stab the bull project an image of it being a beastly, fearsome creature. Look at the seal hunt for another example of this. What about the ugly species who are endangered? I don't see Morrissey petitioning the survival of those. Like the bot fly! Fucking kill all of them, somebody.

This is all about cultural differences, tolerance and acceptance.
post #32 of 342
Those pictures make me laugh. Like the guy is surprised or something. "I am stabbing the bull with sharp sticks. Why would he do this to me?!"
post #33 of 342
Bullshit.
The torture, degradation and brutal murder of a thinking, sentient, conscious emotionally reactive and aware living being is a sad example of how far we have yet to evolve, culturally, as a species. I don't see why we should tolerate shit like this anymore than we should tolerate other cultures that allows women to be raped, mutilated and subjugated.
This is in no way analogous to meat being executed for food, something I am personally against, this is just barbarism dressed up as Art.
People fling the word "Culture" around like it's this unassailable, unarguable thing that we can't find flaw with.
It's not. It's mould.
You are an idiot.
post #34 of 342
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My point was that we project the images we want onto animals. These aren't correct or wrong. Those who stab the bull project an image of it being a beastly, fearsome creature. Look at the seal hunt for another example of this.
Destroy the beast before it kills us all!!!

post #35 of 342
Any way we can throw all these fucking seal clubbers into a bull ring to watch them be gored as well?

I cannot fathom anyone feeling bad for the matador in these pictures while the bull clearly has like 4 giant fucking spears embedded in its flesh; bull is just giving as good as he got far as I'm concerned. If he died in the hospital later it would be no great loss to humanity.



This vexes me. I'm terribly vexed.
post #36 of 342
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Fuck you people. A human being was just impaled.

Animals are not equal to us. This is how we eat them. And quite a bit of cruelty is needed for these meals.

He willfully engaged in this, knowing it may result in personal harm; but thinking a bull has any concept of "revenge" and then ridiculing somebody for being fucking impaled is damn cuntish and inhumane.

When was the last time a bull consoled you in the midst of a break-up with somebody?

Yes, that is how far people are going with anthropomorphizing.

It's a shitty day for humanity when we don't triumph over nature; which actually does not have feelings.
That's easily the stupidest thing I've read all day, and I was on Conservapedia.
post #37 of 342
Dreary almost feels made up these days, as if he were the ungodly offspring of a spawning between eenin and Duke Fleed...
post #38 of 342
Today, Zeus is happy with his sacrifice.
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and I was on Conservapedia.
You really shouldn't do that.
I know it's funny and all, but it makes what little I have left of my soul, ache.
post #40 of 342
I get the feeling that this incident could be used as some sort of rallying cry for the pro-bullfighting fanbase. Something along the lines of, "See? The bull can defend himself. It's a fair fight." It gives more dignity to the bull or somesuch and therefore the animal is not a victim. If nothing else, through their lenses, the guy who got stuck will be seen to have more honor or whatever for falling before the horns.

Bullfighting sickens me. I still don't like to see people critically injured. But it's not like he wasn't asking for it.


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You really shouldn't do that.
I know it's funny and all, but it makes what little I have left of my soul, ache.
I was under the impression it was a parody satirizing conservatives.
post #41 of 342
That's great, but it would be greater if Louse was the one being impaled by a bull.

But I could settle for a prison rape. Or a bull rape.
post #42 of 342
No, it would only be a fair fight if like six bulls chased the matador around for half an hour stabbing swords into his back to wear him down before he goes up against the Star bull. then after the fight, if the Matador does manage to survive, they shoot him in the head and parade his mangled corpse through the streets of Pamplona.

I'd pay to watch that.
post #43 of 342
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That's easily the stupidest thing I've read all day, and I was on Conservapedia.
Were you too dense to not even see that my bull consolation remark was tongue-in-cheek?

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Any way we can throw all these fucking seal clubbers into a bull ring to watch them be gored as well?
What hypocrisy! How can you decide what animals are OK to eat and not which ones aren't? People have pigs as pets, y'know.

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Destroy the beast before it kills us all!!!
Whoa, way to take what I wrote out of context.

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a thinking, sentient, conscious emotionally reactive and aware living being.
None of that has been proven by science.

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. I don't see why we should tolerate shit like this anymore than we should tolerate other cultures that allows women to be raped, mutilated and subjugated.
But, you see, now you're talking about shit happening to people, and like I pointed out before, animals are not equal to people.

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People fling the word "Culture" around like it's this unassailable, unarguable thing that we can't find flaw with.
It's not. It's mould.
You are an idiot.
It isn't unassailable, but it isn't mould either. We make cultural choices every day and view and act out culture. So I'm not sure I understand the mould metaphor.

And Martin Savage, well, you're a cunt for saying that. I am certain you wouldn't say that to my face. If so, your lack of wit or tact would be damn hilarious.

And holy shit, Martin Savage, simmer down.
post #44 of 342
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OK, time to put on the fire retardant suit on.

I'm not pro bullfighting, I think it's something that should be banned even though people in Spain have a long tradition of it.

But I don't think people should be piling on louse because he states the obvious, we value human life more than all other animals. He is right when he says "animals are not equal to us", and well, he's just expressing his opinion on people saying the guy should die for being a bull fighter.

I don't think he should, although the pictures are fascinating, they don't drive me to want to see the guy die ... and I think that's a perfectly normal human reaction.
post #45 of 342
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What hypocrisy! How can you decide what animals are OK to eat and not which ones aren't? People have pigs as pets, y'know.
So two wrongs make a right?

And though I'm a vegetarian, I don't see how you CAN'T draw a line between putting a metal rod through a cow's skull (and then using its body for food and clothing) and fucking torturing it for 3 hours (and then throwing it away)
post #46 of 342
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I don't even know if you can have an argument about this is you don't come from Spain. I've never understood the whole appeal of the thing.
How about this particular species (the Lidia bulls) are bred for the sole purpose of bullfighting? If we eradicate the tradition, we endanger it to the point of extinction.

Now seriously I'm as anti-bullfighting as you all are, but there's something else to consider. Oh, and bullfighting isn't nearly as fun as those other local festivities that involve getting chased by a bull with his horns on fire or throwing a live goat from a belltower or decapitating chickens on the run. Wonder when we'll bring back human sacrifice for the sake of tradition.

PS - JXN1138, just in case, bulls are not murdered in Pamplona's San Fermin festivities. They may die while chasing crowds through the city's narrow, slippery cobblestone streets, but they're not supposed to get killed afterwards.
post #47 of 342
Anyone who can't make the distinction between raising animals for food and torturing them for mass entertainment is beneath addressing in any serious manner.
post #48 of 342
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And Martin Savage, well, you're a cunt for saying that. I am certain you wouldn't say that to my face. If so, your lack of wit or tact would be damn hilarious.

And holy shit, Martin Savage, simmer down.
I wouldn't say it to your face, I'd punch it. Many times.

Your first post above is so retarded it's worthy of me doing just that. You're the type of guy that actually cheered and masturbated at that video of the rednecks fucking on a dead bear. Because for you, it's the right thing to do.

Fuck, it's one thing to claim dominance as a species, but to cheer for a fucking matador who's job is to kill an innocent animal just for the pleasure of the crowd is sick.
post #49 of 342
I'm still buying Cockfighter if it ever comes out on Blu Ray. Deal with it, Tati!
post #50 of 342
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So two wrongs make a right?

And though I'm a vegetarian, I don't see how you CAN'T draw a line between putting a metal rod through a cow's skull (and then using its body for food and clothing) and fucking torturing it for 3 hours (and then throwing it away)
But any form of meat preparation would constitute torture. Personally, I don't find it wrong to eat and enjoy meat. You're talking about drawing a line, but it seems you're equally upset about what we do to cows. Which, well, has been done by our species for ages

And those who can afford to be against it tend to be sheltered, privileged westerners.

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Anyone who can't make the distinction between raising animals for food and torturing them for mass entertainment is beneath addressing in any serious manner.
I don't think you'd be cheering for the matador being gored if you were there. You'd cover your eyes and wait for it to fucking end. If you actually clapped, well, you'd be a cunt who dehumanized this person. It takes a certain amount of steps before you can laugh at somebody being killed or seriously injured. Try to put yourself there, especially because you don't want to.

We use animals for our entertainment all the time. Babe is animal exploitation. You think that pig had a choice? It was held hostage! But we believe for no rational reason that it was pleased to be on that set.

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Fuck, it's one thing to claim dominance as a species, but to cheer for a fucking matador who's job is to kill an innocent animal just for the pleasure of the crowd is sick.
You really don't find it amusing that a chicken can run around with its head cut off? There's no reason why I would find it amusing, and there's no reason why somebody would find it disgusting. The animal doesn't complain, because it isn't a conscious, thinking thing (it is, however, our duty to not over-consume, albeit so we can keep eating them).

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Your first post above is so retarded it's worthy of me doing just that. You're the type of guy that actually cheered and masturbated at that video of the rednecks fucking on a dead bear. Because for you, it's the right thing to do.
No, that's fucking beastiality, and fuck you for suggesting that. That's over the line, man.
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