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Originally Posted by Ryan Bean 
So two wrongs make a right?
And though I'm a vegetarian, I don't see how you CAN'T draw a line between putting a metal rod through a cow's skull (and then using its body for food and clothing) and fucking torturing it for 3 hours (and then throwing it away)
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But any form of meat preparation would constitute torture. Personally, I don't find it wrong to eat and enjoy meat. You're talking about drawing a line, but it seems you're equally upset about what we do to cows. Which, well, has been done by our species for ages
And those who can afford to be against it tend to be sheltered, privileged westerners.
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer 
Anyone who can't make the distinction between raising animals for food and torturing them for mass entertainment is beneath addressing in any serious manner.
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I don't think you'd be cheering for the matador being gored if you were there. You'd cover your eyes and wait for it to fucking end. If you actually clapped, well, you'd be a cunt who dehumanized this person. It takes a certain amount of steps before you can laugh at somebody being killed or seriously injured. Try to put yourself there, especially because you don't want to.
We use animals for our entertainment all the time.
Babe is animal exploitation. You think that pig had a choice? It was held hostage! But we believe for no rational reason that it was pleased to be on that set.
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage 
Fuck, it's one thing to claim dominance as a species, but to cheer for a fucking matador who's job is to kill an innocent animal just for the pleasure of the crowd is sick.
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You really don't find it amusing that a chicken can run around with its head cut off? There's no reason why I would find it amusing, and there's no reason why somebody would find it disgusting. The animal doesn't complain, because it isn't a conscious, thinking thing (it is, however, our duty to not over-consume, albeit so we can keep eating them).
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage 
Your first post above is so retarded it's worthy of me doing just that. You're the type of guy that actually cheered and masturbated at that video of the rednecks fucking on a dead bear. Because for you, it's the right thing to do.
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No, that's fucking beastiality, and fuck you for suggesting that. That's over the line, man.