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"Fuck fish."

post #1 of 19
6/5/09 at 1:01pm
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"Look, I'll tell you a story, all right? I once fell deeply, you know, profoundly in love with tropical fish. Had 60 goddamn fish tanks in my house. I skin dived to find just the right ones. Anisotremus virginicus, Holdacanthus ciliaris, Chaetodon capistratus. You name it. Then one day I say, fuck fish. I renounce fish. I vow never to set foot in that ocean again. That's how much fuck fish." - Charlie Kaufman, ADAPTATION

"In my parents' lifetime, we have killed 90 per cent of the world's fish. In my lifetime, we will finish off the rest – unless we change our ways, fast. We are on course to be the people who wiped fish from the earth." - Johann Hari
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post #2 of 19
6/5/09 at 1:33pm
I eat a fuckload of fish and take a lot of fish oil, but this is still depressing. Between pollution and factory trawling, we're kinda screwed.
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post #3 of 19
6/5/09 at 2:22pm
So long and thanks for all the fish!

Seriously though, I reckon the point of no return has been already passed. While there are serious movements on the international legal stage to prohibit the most cruel and damaging trawling techniques it won´t matter in the big schemes of things. Modern trawling fleets are the aequivalent to WMD´s on the oceans of the world indeed. I guess we all have heard the horrible stories about industrial tuna fishing.

And not to derail, but in my mind it is telling that those "pirate"-"terrorists" around Somalia started off as fishers that didn´t have any more fishes to catch after the European fleet blatantly violated their fishing ground and thereby basicaly cleaning up the slates in that region.

I for one will keep pictures of my goldfish to show my grandchildren what we used to have on this wasteland known as earth.
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post #4 of 19
6/5/09 at 2:31pm
Is this why sushi is so fucking expensive?

Also, the article mentions someone named "Professor Boris Worm", surely one of history's great names.
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post #5 of 19
6/5/09 at 2:45pm
Unfortunately, we've been fucking around too much with the ocean for millennia. To some extent, the decrease may be related to how we are and need to survive, inevitably killing species off - and also, yes, modern practices fraught with error, or perhaps modern practices that are too effective...hm...
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post #6 of 19
6/5/09 at 3:03pm
"Can you get me off the hook? For old times sake?"

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post #7 of 19
6/5/09 at 3:43pm
Serves those scaly bastards right for not fighting back.

Shouldn't the title of the article really be "...runs out of fish that man eats"? While it is scary how much we are decimating salmon, tuna, mahi-mahi, cod, etc. there are still countless fish we don't eat that will still be around. Not that it makes it any better but limits the fear mongering of the article a bit.
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post #8 of 19
6/5/09 at 3:46pm
Of course, if you decimate entire populations of organisms in the ocean, it's going to effect the survivors.

*cue Lion King "Circle of Life" music*
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post #9 of 19
6/5/09 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by Tieman View Post
Of course, if you decimate entire populations of organisms in the ocean, it's going to effect the survivors.

*cue Lion King "Circle of Life" music*
Agreed. But it could be like North American deer. We killed almost all the wolves and other predators and the things multipled like mad. While NA wildlife in general has been severly limited some species thrived in the absence of others. So for the ocean's case we may see clownfish take over the seas or something like that.
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post #10 of 19
6/5/09 at 3:52pm
So in short, we're boned.

Terrific!
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post #11 of 19
6/5/09 at 3:56pm
That poor sleepy resort of Newfoundland....
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post #12 of 19
6/5/09 at 3:59pm
Greed is always going to win over intelligence. Thats the way we are wired to behave, and civilization doesnt do jack shit to change that.

Besides, the pricetag on trying to keep these trawlers, swimming factories etc. off the ocean would be huge. Surveillance on a global scale ... nobody will care to pay for that. Hell, people already dont want to pay for other people, why do you think they would want to pay for fish?
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post #13 of 19
6/5/09 at 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by dreary louse View Post
Unfortunately, we've been fucking around too much with the ocean for millennia. To some extent, the decrease may be related to how we are and need to survive, inevitably killing species off - and also, yes, modern practices fraught with error, or perhaps modern practices that are too effective...hm...
Yep, raping every aspect of the environment is man's necessity. Priceless.
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post #14 of 19
6/5/09 at 4:43pm
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Yep, raping every aspect of the environment is man's necessity. Priceless.
Manifest Destiny/White Man's Burden, dude. I mean, we COULD exercise restraint, but really where's the fun and profit in living responsibly?
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post #15 of 19
6/5/09 at 4:49pm
It's profoundly depressing to think about this.
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post #16 of 19
6/5/09 at 5:01pm
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Yep, raping every aspect of the environment is man's necessity. Priceless.
My comment was restrained. I feel like I'm really wasting my time on speaking to you...but all I mean to say is that humans inevitably have an impact upon the earth, we can only work to reduce this. I'm being a Realist. If you can't accept this, you're living in a fantasy world with simple black-and-white moral solutions, like a dogmatic religious person.

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Originally Posted by Master Shake View Post
Manifest Destiny/White Man's Burden, dude. I mean, we COULD exercise restraint, but really where's the fun and profit in living responsibly?
You're a moron on this topic, driven by dogma as well. I come at this from a realist perspective and suddenly I'm considered with the crowd of people doing extra, uneeded damage to the earth. Guess what, you aren't morally superior to me.
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post #17 of 19
6/5/09 at 5:23pm
Agreed...I actually dont eat any fish/shellfish/ocean creatures due to several personal reasons (im an avid meat eater, though i condone the killing or slaughter of wild animals, unless it warrants it (for example, wild boars are game here in my country because they are foreign species that threatens the ecosystem's balance...plus, those fuckers are delicious).
Isnt nuking Japan the only solution to this?
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post #18 of 19
6/5/09 at 5:27pm
Also (warning: 'taboo-breaker' to follow): rape is not a fitting metaphor for what we're doing to the earth; we receive sex from people on a consensual basis, or sick fucks just take it - but the earth cannot "consent" to anything we do to it, even by breathing, because there is no god. May as well kill yourself!

Over-fucking the earth?

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And I can't think of a time when, on a mass scale like the fish trawling we're seeing now, humans decided to, say, set forests on fire, for no reason, to extract no useful material. It would be a logical fallacy to consider the mental problematics in this occasion (ie. arsonists), as it is in any when talking about society as a whole.
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post #19 of 19
6/5/09 at 6:26pm
This reminds me of the last episode of Dinosaurs, when they were all pissed off because there was no rain so they dropped bombs in all the volcanos to make 'clouds' and ended up destroying the Earth and dying slow horrible deaths.
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