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post #151 of 313
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
I'm still hoping for a DINOSAURS ATTACK! trading card to film adaptation. Joe Dante?





These scenes need to be up on the big screen. A groom/bride double-Trike-impalement? Awesome.

Never say never. They did make a movie out of Mars Attacks cards. And the Tri-tops attacking the wedding party is right out of Alligator. Is Sayles still working on a JP4 script?
post #152 of 313
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
I have one big nerdy issue with these films, and that's that they made it OK for people to abbreviate dinosaurs' names. When I was five years old it was a goddamn accomplishment to speak (and spell) Tyrannosaurus Rex, Brachiosaurus, Ankylosaurus, Triceratops. To this day I'm never too busy to spell them out.
It's probably for the best...



post #153 of 313
Pachycephalosaurus!
post #154 of 313
I find it funny that the incubator misspelled two dinosaur names: Tyrannosaurus Rex and Stegosaurus.
post #155 of 313
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Originally Posted by Carnotaur3 View Post
I find it funny that the incubator misspelled two dinosaur names: Tyrannosaurus Rex and Stegosaurus.
Not very surprising considering the results of the project.
post #156 of 313
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Originally Posted by Carnotaur3 View Post
I find it funny that the incubator misspelled two dinosaur names.
So does User32, I'll wager.

But yeah. No wonder the cloned dinosaurs turned out bad-- if the scientists can't spell, what luck would they have sequencing a genome?
post #157 of 313
Jurassic Park is the film that made me a film geek, and for that I will always love it. (Aww...)

I think they should make a JP film where the park is actually open to the public, hundreds-thousands of people are checking out the best zoo ever, and then stuff goes haywire...
post #158 of 313
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
I have one big nerdy issue with these films, and that's that they made it OK for people to abbreviate dinosaurs' names. When I was five years old it was a goddamn accomplishment to speak (and spell) Tyrannosaurus Rex, Brachiosaurus, Ankylosaurus, Triceratops. To this day I'm never too busy to spell them out.
Yeah, putting Sam Neil in that T-Shirt was just going too far!

post #159 of 313
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--40RLF5UGo

I loose it everytime with the Jeff Goldblum impersonation.
post #160 of 313
Sam Neill: Terrorizing Children with creepy raptor bedtime stories since 1993.
post #161 of 313
Jurassic Park, which is on Demand, holds up surprisingly well, although Jeff Goldblum still remains the man. And Sam Neill with the torch vs. the T-Rex in the rain is still a totally iconic moment.
post #162 of 313
I'm curious how much nostalgia tints this movie for me considering I probably saw it when I was about 7 or 8. It really did play as big of a part of my childhood as Indianna Jones and Star Wars.
post #163 of 313
The whole movie is a series of great, iconic moments strung together with awkward stretches of bad dialogue. And Goldblum is the only one who knows how to navigate them.
post #164 of 313
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Originally Posted by Andrew Woods View Post
I'm curious how much nostalgia tints this movie for me considering I probably saw it when I was about 7 or 8. It really did play as big of a part of my childhood as Indianna Jones and Star Wars.
I agree, this was the film that really got me into loving movies and wanting to work on them. It'll be a fun fun day when this film is on Blu Ray.
post #165 of 313
"You, ah, were so concerned about whether or not you could, you, uh, didn't stop to think about whether, ah, or not you should."
post #166 of 313
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
The whole movie is a series of great, iconic moments strung together with awkward stretches of bad dialogue. And Goldblum is the only one who knows how to navigate them.
You hit the nail on the head, although one could say this is true for all of Crichton's work on the page as well; the man was terrific at action scenes and suspense, but slogging through his dialogue is a fucking chore, and his characters are utterly stereotypical. Would you agree?

But yeah, the movie rocks, and while the CGI has aged better in some places than in others (the T-Rex and the Brachiosaurus have aged pretty well, but the Gallimimuses really haven't), the practical effects work here is still godly, particularly the 'Rex and the raptors. As far as the sequels go, Lost World has some great moments (gotta love the slowly breaking glass) but is thoroughly screwed up in terms of story priority and morals: Vince Vaughn gets a lot of people killed and is somehow still treated as one of the heroes, Julianne Moore makes every decision a stupid one, the daughter defines "useless load", and Postlethwaite manages to be the only sympathetic dinosaur hunter in history. On the other hand, III is an amusing, well-paced diversion with some nice effects work and performances (I think this was the film that introduced me to William H. Macy).
post #167 of 313
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Originally Posted by Chris Spider View Post
You hit the nail on the head, although one could say this is true for all of Crichton's work on the page as well; the man was terrific at action scenes and suspense, but slogging through his dialogue is a fucking chore, and his characters are utterly stereotypical. Would you agree?

But yeah, the movie rocks, and while the CGI has aged better in some places than in others (the T-Rex and the Brachiosaurus have aged pretty well, but the Gallimimuses really haven't), the practical effects work here is still godly, particularly the 'Rex and the raptors. As far as the sequels go, Lost World has some great moments (gotta love the slowly breaking glass) but is thoroughly screwed up in terms of story priority and morals: Vince Vaughn gets a lot of people killed and is somehow still treated as one of the heroes, Julianne Moore makes every decision a stupid one, the daughter defines "useless load", and Postlethwaite manages to be the only sympathetic dinosaur hunter in history. On the other hand, III is an amusing, well-paced diversion with some nice effects work and performances (I think this was the film that introduced me to William H. Macy).
Please don't get me started on The Lost World.

And by the way, what's wrong with the dialogue in Jurassic Park?
post #168 of 313
The power went out in our building last week and I had to mess around with the circuit breakers. When the power came back on in full, guess what line I had running in my head!!!

Now if only a raptor sprang out from right behind me in that moment.

GOOOODDAAAMN!!!!

Also, that shot of Goldblum igniting his flare in the car. Never fails to make me chortle.
post #169 of 313
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Originally Posted by Carnotaur3 View Post
And by the way, what's wrong with the dialogue in Jurassic Park?
Simply put, there's not a lot of character to it. It tends to be either expository or declamatory, with flashes of wit (the Disneyland comparison, Alan scaring the crap out of that kid with the raptor claw) that are all too brief. I'm willing to blame most of this on the novel since it was also like that (it did have better character arcs, mind you, especially for Hammond), but the movie still should've been able to improve more on the dialogue.
post #170 of 313
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Originally Posted by Carnotaur3 View Post
And by the way, what's wrong with the dialogue in Jurassic Park?
The entire scene between Hammond and Sattler is a good microcosm of everything that's wrong with the movie. It's packed with dialogue that sounds like it's supposed to mean something, and in fact, is just noise. Her whole "This isn't something you can think your way through, you have to feel it" bullshit is just plain awful writing, because it's meaningless. What does that mean? What is she trying to say? More importantly, what is the writer trying to say to the audience? And how does it relate in any way to what's happening in the story?

This is par for the course for David Koepp, by the way. The guy defines mediocre.
post #171 of 313
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
I'm still hoping for a DINOSAURS ATTACK! trading card to film adaptation. Joe Dante?





These scenes need to be up on the big screen. A groom/bride double-Trike-impalement? Awesome.

Those are seriously disturbing. I assume they were put out for adult collectors, and not kids....... right?
post #172 of 313
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
This is par for the course for David Koepp, by the way. The guy defines mediocre.
I've always wondered why Spielberg (and I guess the rest of Hollywood) has such a hard on for Koepp. I guess he gives serviceable scripts that usually have a decent structure, but as you said the dude kind of defines mediocrity.
post #173 of 313
The movies he works on tend to make money. That's all it takes to get steady work.

Why Spielberg works with him, that I don't understand.
post #174 of 313
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Originally Posted by RathBandu View Post
"You, ah, were so concerned about whether or not you could, you, uh, didn't stop to think about whether, ah, or not you should."
"Are we... going to see... any... ah... dinosaurs... on our... ah.. dinosaur tour? ...Hello?"
post #175 of 313
Remember, guys, Sam Jackson hates that hacker crap.
post #176 of 313
Nuh-uh-uh! That's because he didn't say the magic word! Nuh-uh-uh!

As for me, I'm still holding onto my butts.

Thanks, dad...
post #177 of 313
Also, if the raptors don't get into the lysyne that we provide them, they slip into ah comah and die.
post #178 of 313
You are saying that a group of animals, entirely composed of females, will... breed?

Shit Rath. John Cho!? You should've given me BD Wong! Heheheh.
post #179 of 313
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
Those are seriously disturbing. I assume they were put out for adult collectors, and not kids....... right?
Both! Mars Attacks and Dinosaurs Attack were so, so great.
post #180 of 313
That is uh, one big pile, uh of shit.

Also loved, Goldblume's banging of the table.

"And now *bang* you're selling it! *bang*"
post #181 of 313
(snarl laugh)

Hehehehe.... rawrl... rrrawrl...

Is this... auto... auto-erotica?

EDIT: This is all I have to contribute to this thread, by the way. I don't think the film is that great, but I watched it waaaay too many times on VHS as a kid.
post #182 of 313
Remember that time in the 90s when Jeff Goldblum was a big box office star (well, not really, but he was in three of the most successful films ever)? I miss those days.
post #183 of 313
His strut at the end of Independence Day makes him a star forever in my eyes. The movement of those hips... AMAZING.
post #184 of 313
Man is still out there, on Law & Order and in Paul Schrader movies. He's still out there.

Also, his short lived tv show with Ben Verene will be out soon.
post #185 of 313
I know Goldblum's out there (Adam Ressurected is on the instaview, haven't seen it though). I like him on Law & Order. And lest we forget, he was in the underrated, has not gotten mentioned on any brilliant-but-cancelled-shows-of-the-decade-lists RAINES. Which was pure unfiltered Goldblum.
post #186 of 313
I'll never forget the day that Michael Jackson died, we also thought Goldblum had fallen off a cliff in New Zealand. This caused such controversy that Goldblum had to prove he wasn't dead on The Colbert Report.
post #187 of 313
"Now I'm here by myself um uh.. talking to myself.. that's the chaos theory."

Only Bob Peck approaches Goldblum's great lines.

"No we can't... we're being hunted."

"Quiet! All of you! ... they're entering the Tyrannosaur paddock."

"They remember."

"Clever girl."
post #188 of 313
"Sheeew-tah! SHEEEEEW-TAAAH!!!"
post #189 of 313
"We could have a coupon day."

I'm sure the nation cheered when the T-Rex ate the lawyer.
post #190 of 313
From 1994-1998, aprox, whenever someone would ask to use the bathroom in elementary school, some idiot would pipe up with "When you gotta go, you gotta go!". Unfailingly this was met with hysterical laughter. And people wonder why I became a cynic..
post #191 of 313
Are you insulting Goldblum, Kate? Because I've given you a lot of leeway, but that's crossing a line you do not want to cross.

I expect the next post to be an image-laden tribute to the glory that is Jeffrey Alan Goldblum.
post #192 of 313
The lawyer Gennarro was actually the EVERYMAN HERO in the book! Smarmy corporate guy went to the (excised for the film) park's PR guy Ed Regis, who was eaten by the baby T-Rex, if I remember correctly.
post #193 of 313
They sure cuddled up Hammond from how he was in the book too.
post #194 of 313
So............any ideas as to what this proposed "insane" new sequel trilogy will be about?

Personally, I'm hoping they'll use that John Sayles script and toss the director spot to Joe Dante.
post #195 of 313
I would support that just to see the fanboy heads exploding in rows in the theater.
post #196 of 313
Goldblum is fantastic in the original Jurrassic Park. Both his character and performance in the Lost World seemed to remove pretty much everything that made him interesting in the first place though.

Weren't there rumours about JP4 being about genetically engineered gun-toting dinosaurs? I could see a trilogy in that.
post #197 of 313
Why would fanboys' heads explode? That script was fucking awesome.
post #198 of 313
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Originally Posted by Luca S. View Post
Why would fanboys' heads explode? That script was fucking awesome.
That's why. I just don't think that the vast majority of the filmgoing public would be prepared for that particular brand of awesome. When fans go to a sequel, what they really want is more of the same, only bigger. That kind of a "Hey, what the fuck?!" departure would likely detonate some skulls.
post #199 of 313
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
The entire scene between Hammond and Sattler is a good microcosm of everything that's wrong with the movie. It's packed with dialogue that sounds like it's supposed to mean something, and in fact, is just noise. Her whole "This isn't something you can think your way through, you have to feel it" bullshit is just plain awful writing, because it's meaningless. What does that mean? What is she trying to say? More importantly, what is the writer trying to say to the audience? And how does it relate in any way to what's happening in the story?

This is par for the course for David Koepp, by the way. The guy defines mediocre.
That scene doesn't bother me, dialogue wise. She's letting her emotions run with it instead of looking at everything in a sterile way. Hammond's still wrapped up in his entrepreneur mode that he isn't understanding that his innocent notions are what has gotten his OWN grandkids into the situation.

The only thing that bothers me about this scene is that sometimes Laura Dern can't just say the dialogue. I spent years trying to make out "They're out there where people are dying."
post #200 of 313
She can't say it because she's an intelligent actor trying to speak godawful lines, and her brain is rebelling.
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