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DO THE RIGHT THING just got a lot colder...

post #1 of 30
6/24/09 at 9:48pm
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As some of you probably heard the new 20th Anniversary DVD is coming out next week, and a couple sites have gotten their hands on it; strangely, only a select few have bothered to mention that the look of the film has totally changed. The DTRT I remember always had a warm reddish tint, but this new transfer looks quite a bit colder than I remember. It's a shame since I was really wanting to pick this up, but now I'm reconsidering -- the image is still gorgeous, yes, but the "look" just seems totally off to me. What say you, should I stick with my old CC edition or what? Anyone else bothered by this, or am I just overracting?
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post #2 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:20pm
Are you real?
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post #3 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:25pm
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Yup. Got anything to contribute?
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post #4 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:25pm
Now I'm confused.
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post #5 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:30pm
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Now I'm confused.
What about?
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post #6 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:40pm
What did Anderson mean?
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post #7 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:43pm
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I have no idea. Apparently there's a large contingent here who are convinced I'm some kind of joke character or something, since my posts are clearly so wildly over the top and nuts that I can't be serious. I mean, clearly.

Whatever.
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post #8 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:45pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
What did Anderson mean?
I meant he threadcraps about the most random things.

If he's earnest about his observations about another site's observations about a DVD that he hasn't seen. Then, yeah...the transfer is more subdued than the Criterion transfer. But, it's not god awful.

Whether or not Ernest Dickerson approved it, I don't know. A quick bit of Google-Fu could rectify that.

Gabe Powers (DVD Active) is a Chewer here and he's seen the final Blu-Ray product. You might want to hit him up for some insight.
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post #9 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:46pm
The review from the site you link to specifically mentions how hot the film looks.
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...Do the Right Thing’s AVC 1080p 1.85:1 transfer pops and sizzles like an egg frying on the hood of a Cadillac.
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post #10 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:48pm
So...he threadcraps and has piss-poor reading comprehension.
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post #11 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:48pm
It looks less orange/yellow than the Criterion Release. I mentioned it at the end of my review. I think it looks fantastic though. From what I can tell the Criterion was altered, and people were pissed about that at the time. No win I guess.
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post #12 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:50pm
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Originally Posted by Anderson View Post
I meant he threadcraps about the most random things.

If he's earnest about his observations about another site's observations about a DVD that he hasn't seen. Then, yeah...the transfer is more subdued than the Criterion transfer. But, it's not god awful.

Whether or not Ernest Dickerson approved it, I don't know. A quick bit of Google-Fu could rectify that.

Gabe Powers (DVD Active) is a Chewer here and he's seen the final Blu-Ray product. You might want to hit him up for some insight.
What the hell are you talking about, where in this thread (or most that I've posted in, for that matter) did I "threadcrap"? I brought about something that HAS been noted by a few reviewers who have obtained final copies of the disc, and I said in the OP that the transfer was still gorgeous, but was put off by what I feel is a strange choice. Does that constitute as thread crapping? People all over this forum talk shit about movies they haven't seen/that haven't been released yet all the time, but I'm in the wrong for bringing up something that's been mentioned in reviews and that at least one site (DVD Beaver) has done a comparison piece on?

Fuck it, this is ridiculous. Either contribute something useful to the discussion or don't, but don't come in just to be a dick for no reason.

@Renn Brown: Another review I read (via DVD Beaver, which has comparison pics between the new and the CC) mentioned that the new transfer "popped" as well, but brought up the fact that the look of the film has been substantially altered. Just judging from the pics, I would agree. I've seen a 35mm archived print of DTRT and it sure didn't look as cold as the new disc, but more like the CC.
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post #13 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:52pm
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What the hell are you talking about, where in this thread (or most that I've posted in, for that matter) did I "threadcrap"? I brought about something that HAS been noted by a few reviewers who have obtained final copies of the disc, and I said in the OP that the transfer was still gorgeous, but was put off by what I feel is a strange choice. Does that constitute as thread crapping? People all over this forum talk shit about movies they haven't seen/that haven't been released yet all the time, but I'm in the wrong for bringing up something that's been mentioned in reviews and that at least one site (DVD Beaver) has done a comparison piece on?

Fuck it, this is ridiculous. Either contribute something useful to the discussion or don't, but don't come in just to be a dick for no reason.

You were wrong. It's cool. Do you have anything pertinent to say?
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post #14 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:54pm
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Originally Posted by Anderson View Post
You were wrong. It's cool. Do you have anything pertinent to say?
Four posts with nothing to actually add to the discussion at all. And on one point you alluded to, Dickinson says somewhere on the CC (to my recollection) that the "hot" look was something they worked tirelessly to achieve, which spurned my curiosity over the decision to subdue it now.
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post #15 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:56pm
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It looks less orange/yellow than the Criterion Release. I mentioned it at the end of my review. I think it looks fantastic though. From what I can tell the Criterion was altered, and people were pissed about that at the time. No win I guess.
The Criterion was altered? Huh, I never heard about that. I can tell just from my experience/recollection the CC's look is pretty close to the print I saw, a lot more than caps from the current transfer do.
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post #16 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:56pm
191 posts and you're still a whiny prick with nothing to talk about other than Michael Bay's cock size.


In regards to Dickerson saying that, yeah...I just watched the Criterion of "Do the Right Thing" the other day and they really stressed the point. When it comes to Universal, they don't have the best track record when it comes to transfers on DVD or Blu-Ray.

I wish Criterion still got to handle this title.
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post #17 of 30
6/24/09 at 10:57pm
The DVDBeaver caps are a good quality comparison, but I'm not fond of the Criterion's look.
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post #18 of 30
6/24/09 at 11:00pm
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191 posts and you're still a whiny prick with nothing to talk about other than Michael Bay's cock size.
Seriously, what the fuck is your problem? I'm clearly talking about more than Michael Bay's cock here, you're the one who came in with an agenda to threadcrap shit about me that added nothing to the convo and are continuing to see it through. Go the fuck back to some Transformers thread for some deep, heartfelt discussion about decepticons or something if you can't add anything here.

And Gabe, maybe the CC is a bit too strong but I still think it's a helluva lot closer to what the original theatrical prints looked like. I'll have to give the new disc a spin myself I guess, but Beaver certainly illustrates a substantial difference.
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post #19 of 30
6/24/09 at 11:31pm
You're still a douche.
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post #20 of 30
6/24/09 at 11:41pm
How the fuck does one manage over 190 posts in the amount of time you've been a member? This is probably contributing to people not thinking you're real.
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post #21 of 30
6/25/09 at 1:31am
Did Spike Lee approve the Blu-ray?

I tend to lean towards the version he approved.
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post #22 of 30
6/25/09 at 1:39am
I'll watch the Blu tonight tomorrow, but I can guess that having the higher scan rate may have toned the color down because it didn't need to pop as much. I put on it for a bit, and it looks great.
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post #23 of 30
6/25/09 at 6:30am
Anderson's unwarranted sniping aside, I lean towards the Criterion transfer myself. I love the film, and while the new transfer is very impressive looking, the whole idea was that it takes place on the hottest day of the year, hence the Orange hue. It's not a transfer error, that's HOW the film is supposed to look. The new transfer removes that light haze from the film for the sake "The perfect Hi-Def Movie experience".

DVDBeaver does a better job of comparing the 2 transfers side-by-side.

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...ng_blu-ray.htm
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post #24 of 30
6/25/09 at 10:48am
There's definitely a colour difference but I really like the new transfer over the Criterion. I realize that Dickerson oversaw the Criterion but the 20th Anniversary has that beautiful separation and wonderful colour palette.
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post #25 of 30
6/25/09 at 11:20am
The Blu-ray captures don't look bad; a pity the Criterion is what the film is actually supposed to look like.
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post #26 of 30
6/25/09 at 12:28pm
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The Blu-ray captures don't look bad; a pity the Criterion is what the film is actually supposed to look like.
That's what this all boils down to and it's a shame that a certain party couldn't understand that.
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post #27 of 30
6/25/09 at 12:40pm
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The DTRT I remember always had a warm reddish tint, but this new transfer looks quite a bit colder than I remember. It's a shame since I was really wanting to pick this up, but now I'm reconsidering -- the image is still gorgeous, yes, but the "look" just seems totally off to me. What say you, should I stick with my old CC edition or what? Anyone else bothered by this, or am I just overracting?
How is this different to what anyone has been saying? I don't even know who the Dark Shape is, but Anderson your anger is purely misplaced in this case.

The transfer is good, but it doesn't look the same way it was intended to look. As I said, and as Ernest Dickenson mentioned, the film is supposed to be set on the hottest day of the year, the orange tint was purely a stylistic choice and that has now been taken away.
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post #28 of 30
6/25/09 at 1:01pm
Look at this shot and then the Blu-ray. This is supposed to be the hottest day of the year -- but with the Blu-ray you can see when they shot on a day that's goddamned overcast. And you aren't supposed to.
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post #29 of 30
6/25/09 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by DrVenkman View Post
How is this different to what anyone has been saying? I don't even know who the Dark Shape is, but Anderson your anger is purely misplaced in this case.

The transfer is good, but it doesn't look the same way it was intended to look. As I said, and as Ernest Dickenson mentioned, the film is supposed to be set on the hottest day of the year, the orange tint was purely a stylistic choice and that has now been taken away.

It's a shame that the transfer got manhandled, but it's going to happen more on backlog titles that get pushed to BR quickly.


Would it have been nice if Dickerson got to approve the transfer? Sure. But, unless it's Criterion...I don't see many majors going that far out of their way to hunt down the DP's approval.
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post #30 of 30
6/25/09 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by DrVenkman View Post
Anderson's unwarranted sniping aside, I lean towards the Criterion transfer myself. I love the film, and while the new transfer is very impressive looking, the whole idea was that it takes place on the hottest day of the year, hence the Orange hue. It's not a transfer error, that's HOW the film is supposed to look. The new transfer removes that light haze from the film for the sake "The perfect Hi-Def Movie experience".

DVDBeaver does a better job of comparing the 2 transfers side-by-side.

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...ng_blu-ray.htm
This is pretty much what I am thinking.

The Blu-Ray looks nice, but it's not how the movie is supposed to look.
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