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post #1 of 201
6/29/09 at 4:41pm
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Granted, by now I'm watching out of some odd sense of loyalty and for Jeremy Piven. The show really could have gone somewhere last season, but instead wrapped it up all too nice and neatly. But alright, whatever.

However, I think I might know why it seems like it's all been said and done before:

Entourage Pitch Meeting
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post #2 of 201
7/8/09 at 11:08am
New ad on HBO.com pretty much shows the show is going back to the high roller lifestyle with the comeback.
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post #3 of 201
7/12/09 at 8:55pm
I wish they had carried on addressing the fact that Vince is a pretty lousy actor. Even if it meant he reconciled this fact by settling for paycheck gigs to get by, that would be an interesting direction to take him, he's set for life but artistically unfulfilled. Instead they throw a Scorsese movie at him. I would believe Scorsese casting Larry David again before I bought him casting Vinnie Chase.

Like most people I just watch this for Piven. He manages to make the same, tired old shit seem fresh and fun each time.
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post #4 of 201
7/12/09 at 9:39pm
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Originally Posted by Weasels Rip My Flesh View Post
I wish they had carried on addressing the fact that Vince is a pretty lousy actor. Even if it meant he reconciled this fact by settling for paycheck gigs to get by, that would be an interesting direction to take him, he's set for life but artistically unfulfilled. Instead they throw a Scorsese movie at him. I would believe Scorsese casting Larry David again before I bought him casting Vinnie Chase.

Like most people I just watch this for Piven. He manages to make the same, tired old shit seem fresh and fun each time.
Agreed. It'd be a nice theme to explore the whole star vs. actor thing. They sort of did it last season, so maybe the writers felt they explored it sufficiently.
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post #5 of 201
7/12/09 at 11:44pm
This is awful.
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post #6 of 201
7/12/09 at 11:57pm
That was...boring.
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post #7 of 201
7/13/09 at 12:27am
Yeah, the stuff with the actual Entourage sucked.

Anyone else get the impression Gary Cole is headed for an alcohol related meltdown that will result in him leaving the agency and Ari kissing Bab's ass?
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post #8 of 201
7/13/09 at 12:30am
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt View Post
Yeah, the stuff with the actual Entourage sucked.

Anyone else get the impression Gary Cole is headed for an alcohol related meltdown that will result in him leaving the agency and Ari kissing Bab's ass?
God, I hope so.
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post #9 of 201
7/13/09 at 4:04am
This show is COASTING right now and not even trying...if there was ever any indication that Entourage needs to be an hour long show instead a half hour, it's this episode...so much juggling and so paper thin.
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post #10 of 201
7/13/09 at 10:18am
Even though Vince is probably one of the biggest douchebags on TV, I still couldn't believe that he ratted out the driving instructor while he was on Leno.

I'm so glad that everything worked out for the boys and none of them learned anything from the actions of last season. Jesus, you might as well just throw last year away.

And what the fuck was Lloyd wearing at the end of the episode? I'm surprised that he didn't have a matching propeller beanie.
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post #11 of 201
7/13/09 at 3:43pm
I saw this more as a setup episode to get things rolling. Nothing crazy, just laying down the foundations and I really hope they go with the idea of the guys going their separate ways. I think Vince tried to play the driver instructor as a joke, not for serious.

Would I want to say great episode? It could be if everything is followed up on. I guess that last scene at the end with Vince all alone hit me too hard. The idea of a reversal of last season (friends with no money) might be actually interesting.
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post #12 of 201
7/13/09 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by SAIRUS View Post
Would I want to say great episode? It could be if everything is followed up on. I guess that last scene at the end with Vince all alone hit me too hard. The idea of a reversal of last season (friends with no money) might be actually interesting.
That was a great moment. It'll be nice to see where they go with it, though I suspect at the end of season six, everyone will be living with each other again.
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post #13 of 201
7/13/09 at 4:36pm
It was a ripoff episode. Sort of like a Smallville written reset button.

Vince was broke, living with his older bro last season, landed a movie role presumably at scale (I honestly forget if they addressed salary) then fastforard a few months later where the movie isn't out and he's on to a new one which sounds more like Indian than Fast and the Furious and suddenly he's rollin in it? They were repoing cars, he was flying coach. Sorry, just ain't buying this. The only decent scene was when Vince was banging the chick in the car, that got a chuckle out of me the rest was just bo-ring.

I was excited about this returning, now... not so much.
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post #14 of 201
7/13/09 at 4:40pm
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The only decent scene was when Vince was banging the chick in the car, that got a chuckle out of me the rest was just bo-ring.
Really? I think that was the Lowest Common Denominator joke of the show.

I'm glad it's back... like clockwork, the thread will start off hating it... everyone sticks around and enjoys and watches it, anyway.

I really liked all the Lloyd stuff.
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post #15 of 201
7/13/09 at 7:26pm
I could become the official apologist for this show, but nah. I'm pretty sure a lot of people actually derive some pleasure from watching/hating.

I had fun with the ep. I will continue watching and (hopefully) having fun with the eps.
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post #16 of 201
7/13/09 at 7:46pm
Every year I watch this show and I'm amazed at how empty it seems. For some reason, I still really like it. It weirds me out.
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post #17 of 201
7/13/09 at 8:00pm
Wait, so people actually want to see these guys part ways, lose battles with alcoholism and bottom out altogether? I don’t know about you guys, but that’s what I watch Mad Men for. I wont fault a show for knowing what its wheelhouse is and returning to it, even after five seasons.
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post #18 of 201
7/13/09 at 9:18pm
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Wait, so people actually want to see these guys part ways, lose battles with alcoholism and bottom out altogether? I don’t know about you guys, but that’s what I watch Mad Men for. I wont fault a show for knowing what its wheelhouse is and returning to it, even after five seasons.
I think what we're looking for is a little growth -- you know, what you might find in a real story.
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post #19 of 201
7/13/09 at 9:30pm
God no, please let's hope they never.
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post #20 of 201
7/13/09 at 11:29pm
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Wait, so people actually want to see these guys part ways, lose battles with alcoholism and bottom out altogether?
Sort of seconding Devildoubt here, but no. What people want is to see them grow the fuck up. I also kind of like the idea that Vince getting his driver's license may be the catalyst for that. I'm interested if the writers will be able to actually mine any real drama out of Vince's abandonment issues.
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post #21 of 201
7/14/09 at 12:19am
Yeah, the writers have proven utterly incapable of doing anything that resembles drama. The best they can do is have halfhearted but interesting cliffhangers. So let's hope they don't try to "mine any real drama", as we know how that'll turn out.

I also hope the obvious alcoholism plotline is a red herring, but yeah I know.
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post #22 of 201
7/14/09 at 12:41am
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Yeah, the writers have proven utterly incapable of doing anything that resembles drama. The best they can do is have halfhearted but interesting cliffhangers. So let's hope they don't try to "mine any real drama", as we know how that'll turn out.

I also hope the obvious alcoholism plotline is a red herring, but yeah I know.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for 90's era comic book pathos, but making Vince an actual human being might be a nice start. Here's hoping that happens.

That being said, I don't think the alcholism thing is a red herring...that's a little too nuanced for that crew.
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post #23 of 201
7/14/09 at 12:56am
Please, let me believe they won't just throw Gary Cole away. LET ME BELIEVE.
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post #24 of 201
7/14/09 at 7:43pm
Gotta love how dated the season already is with Leno hosting the tonight show.
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post #25 of 201
7/15/09 at 1:31pm
Weak episode. Like, honestly one of the weakest of Entourage I've ever seen. So far the only things that half interest me are Gary Cole and Lloyd trying to become an agent.
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post #26 of 201
7/15/09 at 3:55pm
I'm still sticking with it but I can't apologise for such a lackluster premier. But I almost feel like after that episode, they should just make a spinoff called Miller/Gold and be done with it.
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post #27 of 201
7/15/09 at 9:43pm
I don't uderstand how after so many years some of you still don't get what this show is - it's fun, diverting, throwaway fluff. There will be no growth, no real drama, and any hint at same will end up reverting back to the status quo eventually anyway.

Either you enjoy spending time with these characters or you don't. It's not going to become The Sopranos all of a sudden, it is what it is.

I don't get why people so obviously sick of the show would continue watching it personally.
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post #28 of 201
7/16/09 at 12:36am
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I don't get why people so obviously sick of the show would continue watching it personally.
Because last season had so many interesting potential storylines (Ari becoming head of the studio; Vince facing his shortcomings; E becoming an established manager, independent of Vince) and the writers basically said "Fuck it!"

The show has potential to be great but it just seems to be lazy now.
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post #29 of 201
7/16/09 at 12:46am
Is that a non-sequitur? You continue watching because it didn't follow through on potential storylines? The show really won't become more than it is so if you don't enjoy what it is now, cut your losses.

Like I said, I like it for what it is and I hope they don't really attempt any type of change, or drama, or whatever, as I think they are quite ill-equipped for it.
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post #30 of 201
7/16/09 at 12:48am
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Because last season had so many interesting potential storylines (Ari becoming head of the studio; Vince facing his shortcomings; E becoming an established manager, independent of Vince) and the writers basically said "Fuck it!"

The show has potential to be great but it just seems to be lazy now.


It's always been that way.

Surely you'd have realised this when Ari decided to remain an agent, flying in the face of all logic, just cause he had a mancrush on Vince?

Surely you'd have realised this when Vince didn't really face his shortcomings because everything turned out for the best with a call from Marty Scorsese?

Surely you'd have realised this when E didn;t have to face the fact that he may have helped put Vince in the shit when it turned out he'd help set up the Scorsese role?

Surely you'd have realised that nothing actually goes too wrong for these guys - ever. Last season was as dark as this shows gonna go, and the writers obviously thought it was pretty darn dark, when it actual fact it wasn't dark at all?

The show is fun fluff, it has all the depth of a kiddies paddling pool, either you enjoy it on that level for all it's laid back pseudo-wish fullfillment and characters that will never really grow no matter what happens or it's not for you. Stop expecting it to be something it's not.

Just because it's on HBO does not mean you should expect anything more from it than what it offers.

ETA: What Francis said.
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post #31 of 201
7/16/09 at 3:39pm
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It's always been that way.

Surely you'd have realised this when Ari decided to remain an agent, flying in the face of all logic, just cause he had a mancrush on Vince?

Surely you'd have realised this when Vince didn't really face his shortcomings because everything turned out for the best with a call from Marty Scorsese?

Surely you'd have realised this when E didn;t have to face the fact that he may have helped put Vince in the shit when it turned out he'd help set up the Scorsese role?

Surely you'd have realised that nothing actually goes too wrong for these guys - ever. Last season was as dark as this shows gonna go, and the writers obviously thought it was pretty darn dark, when it actual fact it wasn't dark at all?
Surely you realize that this is bad storytelling.

I don't think anyone here wants Entourage to become The Sopranos or (horror!) grim 'n' gritty, but is it too much to ask for a character arc?
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post #32 of 201
7/16/09 at 5:19pm
Yeah there is no defending this episode. I've watched since the first season and this episode was noticeably awful. The characters acted nothing like themselves.. the writing was flat out stupid.. everything that happened was completely inane.. it was like the Shrek 3 of entourage episodes.

I agree Entourage has never been the best thing on HBO but at least it was entertaining.. this episode was just lame.
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post #33 of 201
7/16/09 at 5:26pm
If you want character growth, it's going to be coming from Lloyd.
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post #34 of 201
7/16/09 at 8:14pm
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt View Post
I don't think anyone here wants Entourage to become The Sopranos or (horror!) grim 'n' gritty, but is it too much to ask for a character arc?
It’s just setting yourself up for disappointment is all.

The Rain Dog honestly has it right, “Either you enjoy spending time with these characters or you don't.”
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post #35 of 201
7/16/09 at 8:59pm
The core theme of the show is life in Hollywood...people in Hollywood don't grow...they have peaks and valleys, but the peaks come almost immediately after the valleys (whether naturally occuring or chemically induced), especially if you're a movie star.

The show is now a combination of bad writing and superficial premise...you don't have to be a genius to see this isn't going to be anything but what it's always been, just more terribly scripted.
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post #36 of 201
7/16/09 at 10:03pm
I just want the show to be funny. Ari & Lloyd & Gary Cole would make a great show. The rest were just dull.

I don't care if they're really dating, seeing Turtle take a bath with Meadow Soprano is just wroooong.

Emanuelle Chiriqui is the hottest girl they've ever had on the show (which is saying a lot), but Sloane is equally boring as a character.

The best laugh the main crew got out of me was when they decided to save Vince's threesome story for Conan, implying that their guest star and his audience were too square for it.

Entourage is generally an amusing diversion, but the biggest problem it has always faced is that it has never been as good as we all know an Ari-focused show would be.
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post #37 of 201
7/20/09 at 10:54am
If the first two episodes are any indication, this season is going to stink. The only interesting action happening so far this season has been the stuff at Miller Gold. The Vince stuff is just boring.
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post #38 of 201
7/20/09 at 11:22am
Great song at the end.
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post #39 of 201
7/20/09 at 11:36am
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Great song at the end.
Actually, yeah.
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post #40 of 201
7/20/09 at 1:18pm
I liked this episode leaps and bounds better then the premier. This was the Entourage I love!

I enjoyed the awkward look from Drama to Turtle when his date said the more the merrier. Everything Jamie Lynn Sigler. I enjoyed Vince getting the picture from E's landlord and even more so they showed it to the camera. Of course, everything with Miller-Gold... this should have been the premier. It was awesome.
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post #41 of 201
7/20/09 at 1:36pm
They need to retool the Vince portion of this show. Make him a down on his lucky 'medium-talent' who has fallen from Hollywood's good grace and can't get arrested in this town.

Every week he will crash on the couch of a different famous friend, before completely alienating himself from them when he steals their stuff to buy a duffelbag full of cheeseburgers, skin mags and Pabst Blue Ribbon.

The final irony being when he is actually arrested for attempting to boost a CD player from Mickey Rourke's car.

I'm not entirely serious, but I won't lie, I would get much more enjoyment out of seeing Vince cry whilst drunkenly urinating into Ashton Kutcher's bathroom sink.
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post #42 of 201
7/20/09 at 1:58pm
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They need to retool the Vince portion of this show. Make him a down on his lucky 'medium-talent' who has fallen from Hollywood's good grace and can't get arrested in this town.

Every week he will crash on the couch of a different famous friend, before completely alienating himself from them when he steals their stuff to buy a duffelbag full of cheeseburgers, skin mags and Pabst Blue Ribbon.

The final irony being when he is actually arrested for attempting to boost a CD player from Mickey Rourke's car.

I'm not entirely serious, but I won't lie, I would get much more enjoyment out of seeing Vince cry whilst drunkenly urinating into Ashton Kutcher's bathroom sink.
All kidding aside, a redemption type plot arc could've been a good way to go this season. Look at Robert Downey Jr's. career. He was a mess and in movie jail, sort of like Vince, but he came out of it and is now doing interesting movies.

Vince is a difficult star. He can't really act; he doesn't play the game; and he's a dick to the wrong people (studio execs, etc). Seeing Vince come out of this funk could make for compelling TV. But they killed this possibility when Smoke Jumpers went up in -- forgive me -- smoke, and that deus ex machina resolution to the last season.

Right now the Vince portion of the show is seemingly targeted to the DamnBros and High Five Guys and not to anyone else. (As in: "Damn Bro! Didjoo see that girl Vince just banged! SMOOKIN' HOT! Gimme a high five!"). I know this is just a light comedy, but even comedies there should be some kind of tension or struggle that keeps the audience's interest. Right now it's just like an episode of Cribs. Which is to say: boring.
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post #43 of 201
7/20/09 at 2:50pm
They really missed the boat when they had Vince turn down that Benji movie last season. Would have been great to have him spending an entire season depressed on a dog movie set.
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post #44 of 201
7/20/09 at 6:16pm
They could then follow it up with him struggling through rehab, relapsing, and selling his ass for another hit. Man, just think of the drama.
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post #45 of 201
7/20/09 at 6:33pm
Nah, it'd be so much better if Vince just banged some girl, drove a nice car, ignored Ari's advice and then have everything stay the same. All the time.

Oh...wait...
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post #46 of 201
7/20/09 at 6:41pm
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The only interesting action happening so far this season has been the stuff at Miller Gold. The Vince stuff is just boring.
This has been true for a long, long time.
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post #47 of 201
7/20/09 at 6:41pm
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Nah, it'd be so much better if Vince just banged some girl, drove a nice car, ignored Ari's advice and then have everything stay the same. All the time.
You mean the first five seasons of Entourage?
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post #48 of 201
7/20/09 at 8:22pm
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You mean the first five seasons of Entourage?
Last season was much more than that.
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post #49 of 201
7/20/09 at 8:35pm
Oh god, are people going to start pointing to season 5 now like star wars nerds point to empire to justify their expectation that Entourage is or should be more than it actually is?
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post #50 of 201
7/20/09 at 8:58pm
Maybe major networks were so resistant to the idea of sitcoms without laugh tracks, not because the laugh track would allow people to "laugh with" the audience, but because without it a lot of people somehow miss what type of show they are watching.
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