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post #51 of 303
7/27/09 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post
Jesse: The show is primarily based in Cardiff because that's where the crew are based and where Russel T Davis is from. You've also got to remember that Who is family entertainment, it's Basically a step up from a Children’s show. It’s cult audience is partially built around the fact it’s writing can be very sharp at times and partially because it has got 40 years of history in this country and can tap into social history in a way no other show can.

It's also a lot of fun.
Thanks for the primer, Spike. The fun part is what ended up piquing my interest again. It's got an appealingly goofy, all-ages quality that's rare - these days especially - but it's also apparently capable of going to some freaky, dark places. I've always enjoyed that mix, and from the little I've seen, Dr. Who does it well. .

I honestly had no real idea that the show had been around that long. 40 years? Wow.
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post #52 of 303
7/27/09 at 2:36pm
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Originally Posted by Jesse Custer View Post
I had zero idea that Who was such an instituion in the UK, let alone any idea how long the show had been running).
You have star trek, we have Dr. Who, it's THAT important.
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post #53 of 303
7/27/09 at 7:00pm
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You have star trek, we have Dr. Who, it's THAT important.
Even in NZ when I was growing up, Who was an institution. I vividly remember watching Tom Baker regenerate into Peter Davison when I was 9ish and thinking it was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen in my life. By the time Nicole Bryant and her incredible boobs had left the show, I was tuning out. But I think alot of people were by that stage, as the writing was becoming increasingly weaker. But when I heard the series was coming back in the modern era, the kid in me got excited all over again - and I have to say I'm stoked that The Doctor is alive and well and has become a hero for a whole new generation of kids all over again.
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post #54 of 303
7/27/09 at 7:11pm
It's an institution down here as well. The new series particularly has been huge. They re-run the thing constantly on TV and the Xmas specials are a big deal. It's also the one SciFi property chicks dig, which is awesome.
Stoked to hear that line up for writing talent. Gaiman penned Who would be a dream come true.
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post #55 of 303
7/27/09 at 7:25pm
I really like the new TARDIS exterior, it seems like a nice throwback to the boxier way it used to look back in the 70s and 80s.
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post #56 of 303
9/9/09 at 2:52pm
Neil Gaiman is still refusing to confirm whether he's writing an episode or not, but apparently Richard Curtis is onboard for Series 5. Yeah THAT Richard Curtis. It'll never happen but how awesome would it be for the Doctor to visit a Blackadder.

Also (spoilers about a midway episode of Season 5) the Dalek story they have sounds really interesting. Essentially it's set in the 1940s and has a bunch of reformed Daleks working with Winston Churchill to put an end to World War 2. Although this does make me wonder where Gatiss's 'Indiana Jones' style adventure with the Doctor and a bunch of Nazis in the Natural History Museum is going to fit in
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post #57 of 303
9/9/09 at 4:38pm
Regarding those spoilers. I'm sure they'll work it somehow.
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post #58 of 303
10/6/09 at 12:41am
Some new behind the scenes pics, but beware, minor spoilers with thepics.
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post #59 of 303
10/6/09 at 1:23am
Is there any chance we'll get a Dalek-free season? They're so tired at this point.

Personally, I really miss the idea of an older Doctor. We'll probably never see that again.
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post #60 of 303
10/6/09 at 6:24am
Aw fuck I thought we were done with the fucking Daleks after the Davros stuff. Just one season without them for fucks sake, please!
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post #61 of 303
10/6/09 at 11:19am
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Screw the Darleks have you seen the new logo?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/logo/index.shtml

It's utter crap.
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post #62 of 303
10/6/09 at 4:30pm
I wouldn't go so far as it say crap. It's restrained and decidedly classicist, but crap seems a little strong.
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post #63 of 303
10/6/09 at 4:32pm
From what I can understand the Daleks are going to be used in at least a partially interesting way.
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post #64 of 303
10/6/09 at 4:48pm
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Screw the Darleks have you seen the new logo?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/logo/index.shtml

It's utter crap.
Can't see nothing
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post #65 of 303
10/6/09 at 4:49pm
The script logo really isn't all that different from some of the past logos. I'd like the icon better if it was just a stylized W though rather than DW.
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post #66 of 303
10/6/09 at 5:02pm
I haven't seen the video but nothing can top the awfulness of Sylvester McCoy's logo. Man, did his Doctor get shafted so many ways.
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post #67 of 303
10/6/09 at 6:07pm
People actually give a shit about the logo? And that's going to have an effect on the show...how, exactly?

Honestly, some people have far too much rage and nothing important to unleash it on.
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post #68 of 303
10/7/09 at 5:16am
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I'm not angry, and having had time to mull it over I get what they were trying to achive.

I trust Moffatt, he has given us some of the best eppisodes, I even like the idea of harkening back to the older style. What worries me is the older style they seem to be choosing is Silvester Mcoy.
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post #69 of 303
10/7/09 at 5:28am
Did Sylvester McCoy have more than one logo? Because the new one looks nothing like this.
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post #70 of 303
10/7/09 at 5:52am
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i cant see that image for some reason, but the new logo reminds me of this one from 1996.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/ne...00/8292693.stm

which is a little to TNG for my liking. Having said that, the logo is far from the most important thing about the show.

Edited to add that link shows all the logos, the one I'm talking about is number 3.
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post #71 of 303
10/7/09 at 7:15am
The previous logo was tacky as hell, I'm glad they've changed it to something more tasteful.
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post #72 of 303
10/7/09 at 9:28am
It looks like RTDs decision to have Tennant’s swansong take an entire year has done more harm than good. People are already getting excited and amped up about Matt Smith and we’ve not had the closure on Ten yet. It’s weird to be getting details and set pictures from the new doctor, when the old doctor is still kicking around and we’ve not seen the end of his story yet.
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post #73 of 303
10/7/09 at 9:40am
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It looks like RTDs decision to have Tennant’s swansong take an entire year has done more harm than good. People are already getting excited and amped up about Matt Smith and we’ve not had the closure on Ten yet. It’s weird to be getting details and set pictures from the new doctor, when the old doctor is still kicking around and we’ve not seen the end of his story yet.
Even though I started this thread I have to agree with you. It would have made much more sense to do the specials as a mini series and then gear up for the new one. As Tenant was leaving there really is no need to space them out as much as they have done.
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post #74 of 303
10/7/09 at 10:43am
But if they hadn't delayed Tennant's departure, you'd have had a big gap between the regeneration into the new Doctor and the start of his run. This way, Tennant passes the torch and we move right into the new guy.
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post #75 of 303
10/7/09 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post
It looks like RTDs decision to have Tennant’s swansong take an entire year has done more harm than good. People are already getting excited and amped up about Matt Smith and we’ve not had the closure on Ten yet. It’s weird to be getting details and set pictures from the new doctor, when the old doctor is still kicking around and we’ve not seen the end of his story yet.
I'd put that move into the "stupid like a fax!" category. After all the Beeb wants people to be amped up for the new series...and it's not like everyone's forgotten Tennant's Doc. In fact I bet you'll see huge ratings for the regeneration episode.
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post #76 of 303
10/7/09 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
But if they hadn't delayed Tennant's departure, you'd have had a big gap between the regeneration into the new Doctor and the start of his run. This way, Tennant passes the torch and we move right into the new guy.
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I'd put that move into the "stupid like a FOX!" category. After all the Beeb wants people to be amped up for the new series...and it's not like everyone's forgotten Tennant's Doc. In fact I bet you'll see huge ratings for the regeneration episode.

Like, totally, man.
Diss his writing all you want, RTD is a media savvy as fuck; generating excitement about the New Doctor at the same time we are about to bid farewell to the current one is a brilliant stratagem.
I hope to christ that Winston Churchill Dalek idea is bullshit.
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post #77 of 303
10/7/09 at 12:01pm
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I thought the main reason behind the year of spaced out specials was an attempt to keep Tennant in the role, so, when it emerged he was still leaving it was a bit pointless.
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post #78 of 303
10/8/09 at 5:57am
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interesting idea, not sure how well this is going to work.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8295718.stm
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post #79 of 303
10/8/09 at 11:53am
It's just for an episode, and probably for a small portion of an episode, so I don't see what the big deal about it is.
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post #80 of 303
10/8/09 at 12:05pm
It's a cute contest for kids. Your point?
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post #81 of 303
10/8/09 at 12:17pm
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No point beyond the fact it was a fun idea for a compettion. The not sure how well it would work is in reference to the fact that love and monsters used a simmliar idea and that didn't work out to well.
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post #82 of 303
10/8/09 at 1:46pm
The aspect of Love and Monsters that was left to a fan to design was the Monster costume. That was by no means the worse part of that episode. I don't see the problem. It's actually kinda cool.
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post #83 of 303
10/8/09 at 2:07pm
Stuff like that is the reason the show is as successful as it is.
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post #84 of 303
11/2/09 at 8:02am
Well The Waters of Mars is scheduled to be shown on Sunday 15th November and whilst it’s exciting to have some new Who it’s a bit of a shame that all of the information about the new Doctor and Tennant’s Christmas Specials have sort of made this episode seem rather inconsequential. Then again that’s been a problem with New-Who since season 2. Because the show has started to get really fetishistic about season long meta-arcs it often feels like certain episodes are just passing time in the build up to the finale.
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post #85 of 303
11/15/09 at 5:04pm
The Waters of Mars was kind of fantastic, maybe one of the best things RTD has done on Nu Who thus far.
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post #86 of 303
11/15/09 at 5:15pm
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The Waters of Mars was kind of fantastic, maybe one of the best things RTD has done on Nu Who thus far.
Definately, just the right tone and the story had a suitable little kick at the end. I'm assuming this Timelord Victorious thing is going to play into the finale in some way or another too, so this episode might not be as standalone as Planet of the Dead.
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post #87 of 303
11/15/09 at 5:19pm
It was a great episode anyways, but the Doctor sort of losing it a little and completely fighting against the rules of time was handled really well. He was legitimately scary as the Timelord Victorious and it was a really interesting, and surprisingly natural, place for the character to go. The next time trailer was amazing too.
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post #88 of 303
11/15/09 at 5:25pm
That was great, loved the Doctor turning into a sorta arrogant prick at the end. Looks like his messing with the timeline will lead to his downfall, at least it's only a month until the final episodes really looking forward to them now after that preview.
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post #89 of 303
11/15/09 at 5:45pm
are we okay with posting spoilers without warning in the middle of the first line of our posts, mere minutes after the british airing?

If we are, forgive me, but it seems a bit quick to be pointing out specifics and whatnot from the episode -- rusty Im looking at you and the timeline comment, but more than anything, I don't know if most people are even aware its aired yet (no one I know was aware it was airing today besides me, and I didnt realize it was already over)and might come here and get something ruined for them..
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post #90 of 303
11/15/09 at 6:23pm
Hmmm, it's a tricky one and I sympathise, but it *has* aired and I for one am quite keen on seeing what people thought of it. I'm not sure Dr Who is popular enough on these boards to start a seperate thread, but perhaps that would have been the solution. I certainly stay out of the other American TV threads after I know they are aired, but before I watch them, which can sometimes be many days afterwards.

I suspect that the discussion (such as it was!) is over anyways, but perhaps it's one to remember for the Christmas Special.
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post #91 of 303
11/15/09 at 6:30pm
Sorry for any spoilers. Although we are speaking in fairly broad tones. I think for the next week, or until an American posts saying they've seen it, we should black out spoilers.

So was anyone else really shocked by Adelaides suicide, I mean it made perfect sense given her character and the nature of the Doctor I just thought it was quite a ballsy thing to do.
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post #92 of 303
11/15/09 at 6:50pm
Not really:

Perhaps I'm just burned out by all the bleak Whoverse episodes I recently watched (Children of Earth, Sarah Jane's Wedding), but I figured it wasn't going to end well. I was pretty certain she wasn't going to shoot the Doctor, though they did kind of tease that when she was standing at the door. At least the 'little people' survived, which was a mercy I didn't expect the show to demonstrate.

I like the fact that he was so angry that he was clearly setting off somewhere with a mission. I'm trying to wrap my fairly hazy Who-knowledge (I mostly watched this show as a kid!!!) around where he could possibly go.

No way I can discuss this in my house. I speculted on The Ice Warriors five minutes before the Doctor brought it up, and my missus gave me such a "you're a total geek" withering look.
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post #93 of 303
11/16/09 at 1:51am
FYI, The Waters of Mars is scheduled to air on BBC America on December 19th. I managed to catch it all on YouTube (9 parts), but I'm guessing it'll be down before long.
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post #94 of 303
11/16/09 at 6:20am
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Loved it, one of th best specials they have done.

Highlight for spoilers...


Shades of the master with the way the doctor was acting at the end there.

Even better news is that the assistant for the 2 part ending is going to be Bernard Cribbins!
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post #95 of 303
11/16/09 at 6:38am
Disappointed that the Doctor was taught his lesson about meddling with time at the end here. Leaving him as arrogant and megalomaniacal leading into the Christmas specials would've been very interesting - it even had me speculating that the Master would be brought back as "the only guy to stop him". Instead I've got a feeling the specials will be more of the same "OMG HUGE EVENT ohbutdontworryeverythingsbacktonormal" stuff that we got at the end of season four.
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post #96 of 303
11/16/09 at 6:46am
I was kind of thinking the same thing Merriweather.

Although from what I’ve heard the Christmas Specials are essentially the destruction of RTD’s vision of who with the groundwork being laid out for a completely brand new Who with Matt Smith. From what I understand Moffat wants to bring as little of RTDs stuff into Matt Smiths run as possible. So it should be fairly cataclysmic. Also from what I've heard, the Master Isn’t the Big Bad. He’s just a rogue element, so to speak.
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post #97 of 303
11/16/09 at 7:05am
I'd guess that Gallifrey is somehow on its way back into existence, then. Have they officially dropped the "13 regenerations" rule?

Completely unrelated: I think it's time we started petitioning the BBC to release the season box sets. Sans the lost Hartnell/Troughton stuff, of course.
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post #98 of 303
11/16/09 at 7:13am
I know for a fact that there at least three other Timelords in The End of Time. But they’re being remarkably tight lipped about the prospect of Gallifrey itself. I think at best we’re going to see a few rogue timelords in the upcoming seasons, rather than a full on resurrection of Gallifrey. The few things I’ve seen of Matt Smith as the Doctor suggest that the Time Lords as a group are no longer past tense, but that’s all I know.
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post #99 of 303
11/16/09 at 7:30am
Timothy Dalton's playing a Timelord, right?

Also, THE RANI. She's just gotsta be in there somewhere.
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post #100 of 303
11/16/09 at 7:45am
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Timothy Dalton's playing a Timelord, right?

Also, THE RANI. She's just gotsta be in there somewhere.
Moffat and RTD both hate the Rani.

I know for a fact that there is a Timelord President we see, which may or may not be Dalton’s ‘Narrator’ character. I’ve also heard from a few different people that we’re likely to see the Doctor’s father at some point. Once again that could be Dalton but I think that’s a ‘special guest’ star they’ve got. And then there has been some random dude walking around on set in full Timelord regalia
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