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post #151 of 181
7/28/09 at 3:06pm
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Originally Posted by DanielRoffle View Post
Not the main point of your post, but dude, our ale is for shit. Could hook you up with some fine wine though.
That's what I was getting at. And, we'll definitely take some of that fine wine.
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post #152 of 181
7/28/09 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
It would be dumb for her not to get a lawyer to speak for her. The whole case has gone beyond a local dispute, this should really be obvious, not sure why you are surprised.
Not surprised at all. The best thing she could've done would have been to stay quiet and fade off into the sunset. Hiring a lawyer who goes out and makes ridiculous statements in an attempt to deflect any criticism of her actions just draws more attention to her. If she can stay out of the spotlight for a few more days, the beerfest at the White House will effectively end her role in the whole affair.
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post #153 of 181
7/28/09 at 5:49pm
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Originally Posted by Pop Zeus View Post
BO could've phrased his answer to Lynn Sweet's question a bit more artfully, but essentially he's right. Even if Skip Gates was (somewhat understandably) hotheaded and irrational about Sgt. Crowley's behavior, Crowley should not have arrested him. The Disorderly Conduct law supposedly violated is so freely written as to be an invitation for abuse and false arrest. It requires good judgment on the part of the arresting officer in order to be used effectively, and in this case good judgment was NOT used. Crowley's manhood was called into question by this yelling, rich, well-connected (and black) man and he chose to assert his authori-tah. I mean, what's the underlying public good being served by Gates' arrest? Was he obstructing an investigation? Intimidating a police officer? Or was it merely a wound of pride?
And THAT is exactly why Crowley "acted stupidly". He had to know that by arresting this guy, he took what would have been a routine call that was nothing more than a misunderstanding and escalated it for no good reason.
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post #154 of 181
7/28/09 at 8:45pm
GodDAMNit:

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 24, 2009

McCotter Readies House Resolution Calling for Presidential Apology to Cambridge Police Sergeant

Washington, D.C. -- Unless President Obama apologizes for impugning the professional conduct of Cambridge, Massachusetts Police Sergeant James M. Crowley, when Congress returns on Monday, U.S. Representative Thaddeus G. McCotter (R-MI) will introduce a House Resolution calling on President Obama to do so.
I'm sure someone who can't get their health condition treated because nobody will insure them will take solace in the fact that Obama might have to fucking apologize about this.
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post #155 of 181
7/28/09 at 11:11pm
Another take: http://www.slate.com/id/2223673/
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post #156 of 181
7/29/09 at 5:36pm
If only this site had been consulted beforehand.
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post #157 of 181
7/30/09 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
If only this site had been consulted beforehand.
Or this dude.
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post #158 of 181
7/30/09 at 1:03pm
Thread Starter 
I'm so tired of hearing about this "beer summit" and it still hasn't happened. Can't wait for this to be over.
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post #159 of 181
7/30/09 at 1:10pm
Did he think calling someone a jungle monkey was that much worse than just calling them a monkey? I'm just curious. I mean, jungle monkey actually sounds kind of cool, and banana-eating jungle monkey...that almost made me laugh. Now, porch monkey would make me slap a bitch, but only because monkeys on porches is as ridiculous as Bananas in Pajamas.

I love how he claims he didn't mean it in a "racist" way. You know, racists would be kind of funny if they weren't so busy being, you know, racist. Anyway, the Celtics may have fallen off but the Boston PD is still puttin' in work.
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post #160 of 181
7/30/09 at 9:33pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
I'm so tired of hearing about this "beer summit" and it still hasn't happened. Can't wait for this to be over.
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post #161 of 181
7/30/09 at 9:43pm
Thread Starter 
Oh God, and the sergeant had a press conference afterward.

He actually handled it quite well, but I can tell these two are not ready to let all of us move on as they plan more meetings. I can already see that this guy in particular is planning a political career.

*sigh*
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post #162 of 181
7/30/09 at 9:44pm
Bullshit. This clearly should have been a purposefully casual "buncha guys sitting on front steps/back porch" thing. The moment a waiter entered the equation the whole point of "let's have a beer" was lost.
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post #163 of 181
7/30/09 at 9:46pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
Oh God, and the sergeant had a press conference afterward.

He actually handled it quite well, but I can tell these two are not ready to let all of us move on as they plan more meetings. I can already see that this guy in particular is planning a political career.

*sigh*
And the Republican Party casts aside their old plaything, having found a new Joe The Plumber for the post-election world.
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post #164 of 181
7/30/09 at 10:12pm
While at the gym earlier, the monitors in the treadmill area were tuned to CNN, and they flashed a "BREAKING NEWS: THREE MEN IN BACKYARD AT WHITE HOUSE". I almost faceplanted after slowing down in sheer incredulity at what I was reading.

Below that were ticklers about assaults at Neda's grave in Iran.
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post #165 of 181
7/30/09 at 10:26pm
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
While at the gym earlier, the monitors in the treadmill area were tuned to CNN, and they flashed a "BREAKING NEWS: THREE MEN IN BACKYARD AT WHITE HOUSE". I almost faceplanted after slowing down in sheer incredulity at what I was reading.

Below that were ticklers about assaults at Neda's grave in Iran.
You mean you didn't see Wolf Blitzer's 3D rendering of the white house lawn and where the beer-drinking would take place? Christ.
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post #166 of 181
7/30/09 at 11:03pm
I'm kinda worried about the possibility that you're totally serious.
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post #167 of 181
7/30/09 at 11:17pm
I love the (probably) intentional black guy/white guy/black guy/white guy setup at that table.

Cant make it look like one team against the other, right?
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post #168 of 181
7/30/09 at 11:24pm
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Originally Posted by The Closer View Post
I love the (probably) intentional black guy/white guy/black guy/white guy setup at that table.

Cant make it look like one team against the other, right?
Aren't the odds of that happening kinda 50/50?
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post #169 of 181
7/30/09 at 11:34pm
I just want Joe Biden to say something wacky and piss everyone off.
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post #170 of 181
7/31/09 at 8:32am
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Originally Posted by MikeI View Post
Aren't the odds of that happening kinda 50/50?
Indeed. I was pseudo-joking, but at the same time I could seriously see whatever White House press consultant person having name cards on each of the seats.
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post #171 of 181
7/31/09 at 8:37am
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post #172 of 181
7/31/09 at 8:38am
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Originally Posted by The Closer View Post
Indeed. I was pseudo-joking, but at the same time I could seriously see whatever White House press consultant person having name cards on each of the seats.
Might have been a conscious effort to put Gates and Crowley next to each other.
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post #173 of 181
7/31/09 at 8:40am
Thread Starter 
BTW, doesn't the White House have a proper bar?
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post #174 of 181
7/31/09 at 12:23pm
That had to be the least casual "casual" beer drinking session I've ever seen. And who the hell thought putting Joe Biden at the table with a pint of beer was a good idea?
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post #175 of 181
7/31/09 at 1:06pm
Apparently this thing has hurt Obama in the polls .Part of me thinks the nation just liked the idea of voting for a non-threatening black guy and not a leader since they're getting pissed at the guy for simply expressing a opinion.
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post #176 of 181
7/31/09 at 1:24pm
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post #177 of 181
7/31/09 at 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by dajuice7 View Post
That had to be the least casual "casual" beer drinking session I've ever seen. And who the hell thought putting Joe Biden at the table with a pint of beer was a good idea?
It was non-alcoholic. Apparently Biden does not drink.
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post #178 of 181
7/31/09 at 2:09pm
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Originally Posted by Pompoussory Estoppel View Post
It was non-alcoholic. Apparently Biden does not drink.
Thank God for that. Thank God.
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post #179 of 181
8/3/09 at 4:32am
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post #180 of 181
8/3/09 at 11:56am
A pretty great op-ed on the whole ordeal.
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post #181 of 181
8/3/09 at 12:17pm
A friend of mine who grew up in Cambridge directed me to the Herbert piece recently. A great op-ed that doesn't forget to place the Gates incident within the larger issue of the relationship between minorities and the police.

Stormin: The funny thing is, barring the tats, that could almost be Biden's head on Clinton's body. Imagine if Biden were Clinton's VP...
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