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Oregon couple get away with using god as excuse for killing their child.

post #1 of 14
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"Seperation of church and state" huh? What a load of shit.

You poor fuckers are living in a democratic theocracy in all but name.

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OREGON CITY, Ore. — An Oregon couple who relied on prayer instead of medical care were acquitted of manslaughter Thursday in the death of their 15-month-old daughter.

The jury convicted the father, Carl Brent Worthington, of criminal mistreatment, a misdemeanor carrying a maximum sentence of a year in jail. The mother, Raylene Worthington, was acquitted in the 2008 death of their daughter Ava.

Both had faced manslaughter charges, which could have carried a sentence of up to six years in prison. The mother also was acquitted of criminal mistreatment.

The prosecution said Ava Worthington failed to flourish through most of her life because of a cyst on her neck that impeded her breathing and eating, contributing to her fatal pneumonia. She died on a Sunday evening after family and church members prayed over her and anointed her with olive oil.

The state medical examiner said she could easily have been saved with antibiotics.

But the defense attacked the credibility of the state's expert witnesses and said the child died of a fast-moving form of sepsis, an infection. The Worthingtons testified that the cyst was a trait in the father's family and that they thought their child only had a cold.

Jurors saw the Worthingtons as loving, caring parents, said 25-year-old juror Ashlee Santos.

"They're people. They're not monsters," she said at a press conference at the Clackamas County courthouse. "They had no intention of harming their child. They're good parents."

She said the father was convicted of criminal mistreatment because the mother wasn't monitoring the girl as closely as he was, so he was more responsible for her condition.

During the trial, the defense made a point of noting that in families of the Worthingtons' church, the Followers of Christ, husbands make all important decisions.

District Attorney John Foote said Thursday prosecutors were "saddened and disappointed," convinced the facts were clear in this case, and determined to be aggressive in enforcing "laws that require parents to protect their children regardless of their religious faith."

The Followers of Christ shuns conventional medicine in favor of faith healing. The church has been in Oregon City since early in the 20th century. Its members, by their own description and that of others, keep to themselves.
That's sickening.
post #2 of 14
From the Wikipedia article on Followers of Christ:
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During the latter part of the twentieth century, the church began to attract attention from authorities in the state of Oregon due to an unusually-high mortality rate among its children. Larry Lewman, a former medical examiner in the state, alleges that during a ten-year period twenty-five children perished due to the lack of medical intervention -- a death rate 26 times higher than among the general population.[2] An investigation by The Oregonian claimed that 21 out of 78 minors found to be buried in the church cemetery died of preventable causes, including simple infections which would be easily treated with routine antibiotics.
I hate to be so callous, but these people are performing a valuable service by experimentally debunking the so-called power of prayer.

Either that or God has tuned them out due to all of the constant chanting.
post #3 of 14
It's tragic until you realize the kid would've grown up to be an idiot like its parents.
post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by Denis Leary
I think Jim Henson said it best when he said, "Hey, anybody got an aspirin? I think I have a cold."
heh
post #5 of 14
So religious freedom is more important in America than not killing your children through willful neglect? Nice.
post #6 of 14
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An Alberta, Canada couple who were members of the church were successfully prosecuted by authorities there when their child died under similar circumstances; the law there did not provide the same faith-healing exemptions that were found in Oregon.[15]
YAY FOR CANADA! Even Alberta, our Texas, has more common sense than Oregon.
post #7 of 14
Maybe this story will wake people the fuck up. Or, maybe it will make absolutely difference, because nothing really ever does.
post #8 of 14
You'd think all the so-called "pro-life" people would be all over this, right?

Right?

<crickets>
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post
You'd think all the so-called "pro-life" people would be all over this, right?

Right?

<crickets>
Why should they? God has taken one of them be an angel at his side. Hallelujah!
This death is reason to celebrate since it is gods will. Unlike those abortionist socialistic massmurderers that are worse than Hitler.
post #10 of 14
I live in Oregon. Abortion should be fucking mandatory here. So many dumb, worthless motherfuckers.
post #11 of 14
Theocracy? No. If that was the case, likely this couple wouldn't have be treated with such leniency as theocracies are not usually associated with tolerance or trying to accommodate different belief systems.

This is just the justice system trying to balance negligence with our important right to have freedom of religion, it turned out that in this case it was balanced rather clumsily but it's not as if the state didn't try act responsibly here (if they did, they wouldn't have charged them with the original tougher charges in the first place).

I'd be curious to see how a similar case in that area would have resulted without the religious component. Say the parents weren't educated, the mother suffered from Münchausen syndrome, or it was the result of a death due to a parent not believing in vaccines.

One thing is for sure, there should be no leeway if the authorities had found out about this while the child lived. In my view, that's the type of negligence that warrants taking the child away at least temporarely until proper medical treatment is provided.
post #12 of 14
So if my religion is ancient Mayan and I want to sacrifice someone to the sun, I'm okay in Oregon?
post #13 of 14
Let them die.
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
So if my religion is ancient Mayan and I want to sacrifice someone to the sun, I'm okay in Oregon?
As long as it's your kid, sure.
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