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The 2010 Elections Thread

post #1 of 515
8/3/09 at 5:09pm
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I know it's over a year out, but there was some interesting talk in the Arnold thread and I didn't want to derail that thread with it. Plus, after the upcoming recess, things are going to start to gear up and if you're a political dork like me, you have an investment in Senate and Governor races for states that aren't your own.

Although the New York gubernatorial race is going to be a fun one. I'm hoping that Andrew Cuomo changes his mind about running, because he's kicking the shit out of Paterson in the polls. Giuliani is still wavering about running, and would easily defeat Paterson, whereas a Cuomo ticket would beat Giuliani, but not by much.

The California election, as mentioned, is going to be a fun one, too. I didn't know until it was mentioned that Newsom was running. I fully support that, even if the guy has an ego the size of Mount Rushmore. He's environmentally friendly, pro-worker (even if he did have to lay off a bunch of city employees to balance the budget), and has done a lot for immigration rights. And his fervent support of gay rights is well-known. I'm actually excited to see how his campaign develops.
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post #2 of 515
8/3/09 at 5:19pm
Newsom should do well with a lot of California's key demographics. Though he'll probably do poorly among dudes who have discovered that their best friend slept with their wife. It's gonna be an uphill battle to sway them.
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post #3 of 515
8/3/09 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post
Newsom should do well with a lot of California's key demographics. Though he'll probably do poorly among dudes who have discovered that their best friend slept with their wife. It's gonna be an uphill battle to sway them.
People think Jerry Brown has the edge. But the guy hasn't officially declared, yet. Plus this air of inevitability smacks of Hillary Clinton. Not to mention at Brown's age, that guy would be a one-termer right there.
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post #4 of 515
5/18/10 at 6:45pm
Hey, we have a 2010 Elections Thread! What a fun little day to kick-start this thread again.

Primaries today in Pennsylvania (along with a special election for Murtha's old seat), Arkansas, and Kentucky. Sestack might take out Specter, Lincoln should hold off Halter before getting drubbed by Boozman in November, and Ron Paul's kid looks likely to get the GOP nod in Kentucky. Oregon has primaries today as well.

Also, we have 8-term Rep. Souder (R) from Indiana resigning today after admitting an affair with a staffer. And we have Connecticut AG and curent Senate Candidate Blumenthal (D) getting caught making "misspeaking" (or just outright lying) about his non-existent service record in Vietnam.
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post #5 of 515
5/18/10 at 7:44pm
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Originally Posted by jvc View Post
Also, we have 8-term Rep. Souder (R) from Indiana resigning today after admitting an affair with a staffer. And we have Connecticut AG and curent Senate Candidate Blumenthal (D) getting caught making "misspeaking" (or just outright lying) about his non-existent service record in Vietnam.
WWE CEO and Republican Senate hopeful Linda McMahon pushed that story about Blumenthal through to the NYT. This shit just got real in CT.
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post #6 of 515
5/18/10 at 8:55pm
Tea Party favorite Rand Paul, son of Rep. Ron Paul, will win a GOP Senate primary election in Kentucky, CNN projects.
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post #7 of 515
5/18/10 at 11:32pm
Sestak won PA. Hell yes, fuck "New Democrats." Now, let's see Lincoln bite it, too.
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post #8 of 515
5/18/10 at 11:43pm
Murtha's seat is staying blue.
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post #9 of 515
5/19/10 at 4:40am
This just occurred to me, but please, please tell me that Ron Paul didn't name his kid after his favorite Objectivist author... Ayn Rand, Rand Paul? If so, you have got to be shark fucking me.
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post #10 of 515
5/19/10 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by Mezz View Post
This just occurred to me, but please, please tell me that Ron Paul didn't name his kid after his favorite Objectivist author... Ayn Rand, Rand Paul? If so, you have got to be shark fucking me.
Yes indeedy!

We now have a politician named after a typewriter. (Ayn got her "name" from the Remington Rand type writer she used to bang out scripts for MGM back in the day)
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post #11 of 515
5/19/10 at 3:25pm
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Originally Posted by Snaieke View Post
WWE CEO and Republican Senate hopeful Linda McMahon pushed that story about Blumenthal through to the NYT. This shit just got real in CT.
Blumenthal's just lucky McMahon didn't hit him over the head with a folding metal chair during the press conference.
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post #12 of 515
5/19/10 at 6:53pm
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Originally Posted by Dr Vivisector View Post
Blumenthal's just lucky McMahon didn't hit him over the head with a folding metal chair during the press conference.
Could be worse, they could have a kiss my ass contest with Blumenthal.
nsfw
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post #13 of 515
5/23/10 at 10:54am
GOP wins Hawaii house seat, first time in 20 years:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...waii-gop_N.htm

I don't quite get how the fact that Obama grew up there 30+ years ago has to do with much of anything. But still, a big win for the GOP.
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post #14 of 515
5/23/10 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by JudgeSmails View Post
GOP wins Hawaii house seat, first time in 20 years:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...waii-gop_N.htm

I don't quite get how the fact that Obama grew up there 30+ years ago has to do with much of anything. But still, a big win for the GOP.
From everything I read, it had more to do with Hawaii's politics and the Dems' fumbling the ball there than anything else.

Also, any congressional district that Obama carried in '08 that loses to a GOP seat is generally considered a ding at Obama. It goes that way every mid-term for every President.

Arleen Specter's loss is more of a hit to the President, considering that would be his 4th backing of a candiate and 4th loss. Obama has zero political capital with voters it seems.
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post #15 of 515
5/26/10 at 3:14am
-I think that Pa will go Democratic for Senator. Toomey comes across as a less charming Rick Santorum. Plus he used to work on Wall Street (unfortunately, Sestak voted for the bailout). Not sure about Governor.

-Its a shame that this Conneticut guy is fucking up the democrats chances of holding on to an easy seat. Linda Macmahon couldn't even sell the Stone Cold Stunner correctly on Raw. This could cost the Democrats the Senate.

I am predicting a 51-49 Senate. Could be Republican or Democrat. The Republicans will take back the house.
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post #16 of 515
5/26/10 at 4:21pm
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Originally Posted by Rourkefan View Post
-I think that Pa will go Democratic for Senator. Toomey comes across as a less charming Rick Santorum. Plus he used to work on Wall Street (unfortunately, Sestak voted for the bailout). Not sure about Governor.

-Its a shame that this Conneticut guy is fucking up the democrats chances of holding on to an easy seat. Linda Macmahon couldn't even sell the Stone Cold Stunner correctly on Raw. This could cost the Democrats the Senate.

I am predicting a 51-49 Senate. Could be Republican or Democrat. The Republicans will take back the house.
Corbett will win governor. Onorato isn't even really liked out here in the wilderness.

As for Senate, I agree. Sestak should win. He better. Toomey's a fucking joke.

Republicans won't take either house, but it'll be a lot closer IMO.
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post #17 of 515
5/27/10 at 2:56pm
My question is this: when is the Democratic Party going to understand that the Democratic Party historically stands for a particular ideology? I am fucking sick and tired of these DLC motherfuckers fucking up the Party and the nation.
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post #18 of 515
5/28/10 at 3:09am
I know not everyone likes Bill Maher (let's not get into that)


But this is truly hilarious (IMHO)


On the subject of the Alabama Gubernatorial Election 2KX
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post #19 of 515
7/9/10 at 11:49pm
Okay, it looks like right now that The democrats will lose the house but not the Senate.

-I can't believe that Santorum 2.0 is leading Joe Sestak in the polls for PA senate. I mean Toomey is responsible for this mess. He was a derivatives trader for fucks sake.

-Obama should just cram in whatever he can through reconciliation, cause his domestic agenda is through after this year (Energy, Global Warming, Financial Reform).
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post #20 of 515
7/9/10 at 11:51pm
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Originally Posted by Rourkefan View Post
Okay, it looks like right now that The democrats will lose the house but not the Senate.

-I can't believe that Santorum 2.0 is leading Joe Sestak in the polls for PA senate. I mean Toomey is responsible for this mess. He was a derivatives trader for fucks sake.

-Obama should just cram in whatever he can through reconciliation, cause his domestic agenda is through after this year (Energy, Global Warming, Financial Reform).
Unlike fiscal year 2009, the Democrats didn't draft the budget to leave open the procedural solution of reconciliation for any of those thing. So, if the House is lost--I don't think it will be--the agenda is pretty much just dead.
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post #21 of 515
7/9/10 at 11:53pm
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
Unlike fiscal year 2009, the Democrats didn't draft the budget to leave open the procedural solution of reconciliation for any of those thing. So, if the House is lost--I don't think it will be--the agenda is pretty much just dead.
I know shit about Senate procedures. Can't the democrats just end the filibuster or lower it to 55 next year?
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post #22 of 515
7/9/10 at 11:56pm
I know enough about budgetary procedure to speak confidently about that, but I'm not versed in floor procedure enough to tell you what obstacles they have to go through to either just get rid of dual-track filibustering--thank the late Senator Byrd for that clusterfuck--or the filibuster altogether.
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post #23 of 515
7/10/10 at 12:00am
Thanks Cuchulain. Obama is really taking it on the chin this year. However...he got healthcare reform "passed", unlike Clinton. He basically fucked himself when he approved the bailouts in the first months of his term.
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post #24 of 515
7/10/10 at 12:06am
My pleasure. However, where he really fucked himself is that he basically gave away the store on every single policy battle to keep the corporate-owned/"moderate" Democrats onboard. He did that to bolster his claim that he's passed more "reforms" than anyone since FDR. Those reforms actually being reforms in more than name only pretty much depends entirely on being able to tweak and strengthen them over the following years. If we lose either chamber of Congress this year, there is no way that's happening.
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post #25 of 515
7/10/10 at 12:27am
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
My pleasure. However, where he really fucked himself is that he basically gave away the store on every single policy battle to keep the corporate-owned/"moderate" Democrats onboard. He did that to bolster his claim that he's passed more "reforms" than anyone since FDR. Those reforms actually being reforms in more than name only pretty much depends entirely on being able to tweak and strengthen them over the following years. If we lose either chamber of Congress this year, there is no way that's happening.

Losing either chamber would be a pretty bad kick to the balls for the Dems. People complain about Congress not doing anything now, wait until it's a split Congress. We won't even get token reforms passed. Speaking about the elections, does anyone think the Tea Party nuts are actually going to have as big an impact as people think? I'd love for their "movement" to wither and die soon but I have a bad feeling about November.
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post #26 of 515
7/10/10 at 3:35am
I'm in the apathetic column this year. Just can't muster up the ability to give a fuck when I'm seeing the Dems continuing onward with Bush policies, bending over backwards for nonexistent bipartisanship, and actively cockblocking progressives to boot.
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post #27 of 515
7/10/10 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by bigbrother View Post
Losing either chamber would be a pretty bad kick to the balls for the Dems. People complain about Congress not doing anything now, wait until it's a split Congress. We won't even get token reforms passed. Speaking about the elections, does anyone think the Tea Party nuts are actually going to have as big an impact as people think? I'd love for their "movement" to wither and die soon but I have a bad feeling about November.
They've already had an impact in the primaries. In fact, Palin is like 10-4 for endorsements. Nevada Senate race being one of them, joy.

Byrd's death might just edge the GOP for a Senate take over though, so that's pretty cool. RCP has GOP at +7 but I think they can edge that out to a +8 and maybe win Byrds old seat (depending on candidates) that would put them at 50-48 w/ 2 independents...
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post #28 of 515
7/10/10 at 10:01am
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Originally Posted by Rourkefan View Post
Okay, it looks like right now that The democrats will lose the house but not the Senate.

-I can't believe that Santorum 2.0 is leading Joe Sestak in the polls for PA senate. I mean Toomey is responsible for this mess. He was a derivatives trader for fucks sake.

-Obama should just cram in whatever he can through reconciliation, cause his domestic agenda is through after this year (Energy, Global Warming, Financial Reform).
Hahahaha holy shit.

Thats like saying that someone who worked on a Toyota manufacturing line back in the early 1990s is responsible for the problems leading to their recent recall.

I dont agree with just above 99% of Toomey's views but Jesus Christ...
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post #29 of 515
7/10/10 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by The Closer
Hahahaha holy shit.

Thats like saying that someone who worked on a Toyota manufacturing line back in the early 1990s is responsible for the problems leading to their recent recall.

I dont agree with just above 99% of Toomey's views but Jesus Christ...
Let me correct this...

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Originally Posted by Rourkefan
-I can't believe that Santorum 2.0 is leading Joe Sestak in the polls for PA senate. I mean Toomey is responsible for this mess. He was a derivatives trader who drafted the repeal of Glass-Steagall when he was in the house for fucks sake.
Better?

Plus I keep getting his ugly mug on all the banner ads I see on Chud and Youtube.
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post #30 of 515
7/10/10 at 2:26pm
Well that makes more sense then. Gotta laugh at myself for not reading past the sentence I quoted.
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post #31 of 515
7/10/10 at 8:56pm
Can't believe that Caryl Fucking Fiorina is now even or just behind Boxer in the Polls. Did all the HP workers she fired really all die or move out of state?
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post #32 of 515
7/10/10 at 8:59pm
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post
Can't believe that Caryl Fucking Fiorina is now even or just behind Boxer in the Polls. Did all the HP workers she fired really all die or move out of state?
They followed their jobs to India.
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post #33 of 515
7/11/10 at 3:27pm
People vote against their interests all the time. If they didn't, the GOP would have ceased to exist in the 1960s.
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post #34 of 515
7/12/10 at 11:50am
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Originally Posted by Snaieke View Post

Byrd's death might just edge the GOP for a Senate take over though, so that's pretty cool. .
Yeah, let's get the "adults" back in charge and restore fiscal sanity after Obama's Tax and Spend marxist socialism.

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Originally Posted by Jon Kyl
You should never raise taxes in order to cut taxes. Surely Congress has the authority, and it would be right to, if we decide we want to cut taxes to spur the economy, not to have to raise taxes in order to offset those costs. You do need to offset the cost of increased spending, and that's what Republicans object to. But you should never have to offset cost of a deliberate decision to reduce tax rates on Americans.
Awesome. Cut taxes and don't pay for it. Yep, good governing is right on our doorstep. Go GOP!
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post #35 of 515
7/13/10 at 12:28am
I'm just ready for these elections to be over so that local TV stations don't constantly run ads for the neanderthals trying to get elected in my area. I guess that's what I get for living in Bumblefuck, Tennessee.
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post #36 of 515
7/16/10 at 10:54pm
Sestak happens to be my rep in congress...He is running an underfunded and bad campaign against Toomey.

I am putting PA into the leans republican category now.
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post #37 of 515
7/26/10 at 2:23pm
That fucking loon Tom Tancredo is entering the Colorado Governors race as a 3rd party candidate and will likely split the Republican vote in the General election.

Assuming Denver Mayor Hickenlooper doesn't fuck something up in the fall, the Dems should be able to keep the Governors mansion.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/...ndidate/12382/
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post #38 of 515
7/26/10 at 2:34pm
That's what Republicans get for courting the tea bag nuts and people like Tancredo. You play with matches, you get burned.
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post #39 of 515
7/26/10 at 2:35pm
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Originally Posted by Paul755 View Post
That fucking loon Tom Tancredo is entering the Colorado Governors race as a 3rd party candidate and will likely split the Republican vote in the General election.

Assuming Denver Mayor Hickenlooper doesn't fuck something up in the fall, the Dems should be able to keep the Governors mansion.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/...ndidate/12382/
Great quote in the article from the head of the Colorado Republican Party:

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“What’s your agenda? What are you going to talk about? Impeach Obama and bomb Mecca?” Wadhams asked.
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post #40 of 515
7/26/10 at 2:51pm
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That's what Republicans get for courting the tea bag nuts and people like Tancredo. You play with matches, you get burned.
The Tea Party is also backing a guy (Ken Buck) after he called them dumbshits for focusing on Birther crap and not...you know...real issues.

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Great quote in the article from the head of the Colorado Republican Party:
Yeah, that's my favorite quote from the whole thing. And even if Tancredo were to change his mind and drop out. The GOP is still gonna send out a plagerist or a guy that has already tallied up 17,000$ worth of campaign fines.

The GOP here is just a mess. Although the infighitng between the Dems running for Ken Salazars seat aren't exactly the brightest bulbs. Especially when you have Obama endorsing one and Bill Clinton endorsing the other.
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post #41 of 515
7/26/10 at 3:53pm
Between the Tea Party stunning ignorance of everything, and Boehner claiming the GOP doesn't want to discuss issues so their positions won't be attacked before the election, I can't wait till those clowns get back in power. The Modern GOP is a mess.
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post #42 of 515
7/26/10 at 4:20pm
If the GOP takes back the House, my hope is that some of the younger guys who are not afraid to put their ideas out there will make a strong play for leadership. Paul Ryan is one of those guys. Eric Cantor is another. Also, you have a lot of people on the right arguing that the Republicans need to put their ideas out there in the form of another Contract with America in order to have a chance to succeed.
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post #43 of 515
7/27/10 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by jvc View Post
If the GOP takes back the House, my hope is that some of the younger guys who are not afraid to put their ideas out there will make a strong play for leadership. Paul Ryan is one of those guys. Eric Cantor is another. Also, you have a lot of people on the right arguing that the Republicans need to put their ideas out there in the form of another Contract with America in order to have a chance to succeed.
I hope so, I can't stand Boehner or McConnell any more than I can stand Pelosi or Reed. They're all part of the same broken system.
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post #44 of 515
7/27/10 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by Dr Vivisector View Post
I hope so, I can't stand Boehner or McConnell any more than I can stand Pelosi or Reed. They're all part of the same broken system.
Absolutely. I cannot wait to see which new young turk of the GOP goes boldly into nonstop investigation, gutting regulations, and wasting taxpayer money trying to pin anything on Obama. I mean, the 90's were a lot of fun, right? And since what little we know about the GOP agenda is a nonstarter politically, those young fresh faces will have to something in tea party rallies. Impeach Obama!
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post #45 of 515
7/27/10 at 1:03pm
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Absolutely. I cannot wait to see which new young turk of the GOP goes boldly into nonstop investigation, gutting regulations, and wasting taxpayer money trying to pin anything on Obama. I mean, the 90's were a lot of fun, right? And since what little we know about the GOP agenda is a nonstarter politically, those young fresh faces will have to something in tea party rallies. Impeach Obama!
Not everyone on either side is a boob, Double D. Let's hope sensiblility and reason can overcome greed and lust for power.

Oh, who am I kidding?

USA! USA!

Sigh.
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post #46 of 515
7/27/10 at 6:11pm
I'm going to love it when the GOP led House creates programs that add to the deficit and the Tea Party says nothing about them.
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post #47 of 515
7/27/10 at 6:24pm
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Originally Posted by Pompoussory Estoppel View Post
I'm going to love it when the GOP led House creates programs that add to the deficit and the Tea Party says nothing about them.
Yeah, it is always depressing as fuck when you realize the corporate media is not only covering the "Tea Party" as a legitimate grassroots phenomenon--when it is really a rather small, highly organized and well-funded band of conservative activist group that do whatever the lobbyists who lobby the Republican side of the aisle tell them to do--but also as anything other than the fringe of the right-wing fringe of the Republican Party.

They're the white nationalists and market anarchists of the Republican Party. It is who they always are and always have been. It's disturbing that the media coverage willfully ignores that AND embraces the way they put up an idealized and highly fictionalized version of early American history that lionizes their ideals and demonizes the opposition. That's Goebbels Lite in terms of propaganda.
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post #48 of 515
7/29/10 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by jvc View Post
If the GOP takes back the House, my hope is that some of the younger guys who are not afraid to put their ideas out there will make a strong play for leadership. Paul Ryan is one of those guys. Eric Cantor is another. Also, you have a lot of people on the right arguing that the Republicans need to put their ideas out there in the form of another Contract with America in order to have a chance to succeed.
I'm late to the party here, but I'm really curious why you think Eric Cantor would be a positive change. Everything I know about the guy says he's mini-McConnell. The only difference I've noticed is that Cantor looks like the living embodiment of a high school debate team rather than McConnell's sponsored-by-Sunkist visage.
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post #49 of 515
7/29/10 at 7:15pm
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Originally Posted by audioofbeing View Post
I'm late to the party here, but I'm really curious why you think Eric Cantor would be a positive change. Everything I know about the guy says he's mini-McConnell. The only difference I've noticed is that Cantor looks like the living embodiment of a high school debate team rather than McConnell's sponsored-by-Sunkist visage.
I think you mean Boehner, not McConnell. Boehner's the one with the DayGlo skin and the House Minority Leader. Cantor's not afraid to put his views out there. He's putting out a book with Ryan and Kevin McCarthy outlining and advocating for those views. Boehner's more of a "don't those other guys suck?" kind of party leader. Whether you agree with Cantor's views or not, it's important for the people to know what a party stands for, not just what it's against. And this is a pretty good article explaining the differences between Cantor and Boehner's leadership styles. Of course, while Boehner's the #1 Republican in the House, his #2, Cantor, has to back him up and mostly toe the party line. One of the reasons I'm hoping for a change within the Republican Party.
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post #50 of 515
7/29/10 at 7:25pm
I think that he meant McConnell looks like shriveled fruit, which is sort of an appropriate visual representation of the state of the man's integrity/soul/character. Personally, I think he looks like a Muppet Jim Henson would have made if he had been on the worst Mescaline trip in recorded history shortly before his death.
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