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post #51 of 515
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I think you mean Boehner, not McConnell. Boehner's the one with the DayGlo skin and the House Minority Leader. Cantor's not afraid to put his views out there. He's putting out a book with Ryan and Kevin McCarthy outlining and advocating for those views. Boehner's more of a "don't those other guys suck?" kind of party leader. Whether you agree with Cantor's views or not, it's important for the people to know what a party stands for, not just what it's against. And this is a pretty good article explaining the differences between Cantor and Boehner's leadership styles. Of course, while Boehner's the #1 Republican in the House, his #2, Cantor, has to back him up and mostly toe the party line. One of the reasons I'm hoping for a change within the Republican Party.
My mistake, I was going somewhere else originally and forgot to change that. Twice, apparently. I don't agree with McConnell on much of anything, but he's never approached Boehner as a source of head-shaking disbelief.

I agree that it's worth something to have an actual offering of ideas - but Cantor's ideas seem (to me) to be echoes of what the party has been putting out for at least a couple of decades now. There's a fair amount of energy and ambition that he injects into them, but it seems like he wants to accelerate the party without changing its direction at all.

The question wasn't and isn't intended to start yet another GOP bashing session, so I hope it doesn't come across that way. Cantor and Paul have been relatively prominent for a while now, and I thought I had decent idea of what they stand for. I'd like to think whoever takes the reins and brings some control to the Republicans will bring actual change, but as somebody who held quiet hopes that Obama would turn out to be the sickle swinging socialist hippy he was portrayed as, I can't say I expect Cantor to swing too far from his past.
post #52 of 515
Does Joe Sestak have any money in the Pa Senate race? Did he blow his entire war chest on defeating Spector.

Every other commercial is a Pat Toomey ad. (not complaining, Nick! He even has ads on Chud). God I hate this guy. He is Santorium 2.0. What happened to the Republicans in Pa that I could respect, like Tom Ridge?
post #53 of 515
Sestak may lack the money to really start advertising right now. I bet you'll start seeing more ads either in the middle of the coming month or early September. I wouldn't count him out. I'm not from PA but I was interning at The Hill when his primary campaign was gearing up and some of my research involved Sestak pretty specifically. Back then people were saying he didn't have a shot in the primary, but the dude's got some serious credentials (4 star admiral, etc.), is pretty likable, and is not crazy. If you don't start seeing ads by mid September, that's when I'd start to worry about him. I wouldn't count Sestak out right now, though.

And yes, I'm rooting for him.
post #54 of 515
I'm a Republican originally from PA and I'm pulling for Sestak. Corbett for Governor though.
post #55 of 515
Here's a great Blog Post from The New Republic on the Stupidity of Liberal Apathy

http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-coh...upidity-apathy
post #56 of 515
An interesting mirrored perspective from the other side of the world looked at against the context of my own countries upcoming federal election at the end of this month...

A change of government could be an object lesson for Obama

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Australia is now established as the political canary in the American electoral coal-mine. The eerie parallel between the countries' political cycles has made Australian politics a surprisingly closely watched sport among the US political elite.

The White House of George W. Bush was keenly attuned to the political psychic connection: ''In terms of market research, Australia is about the best test market you can have for US politics, even more than Canada or the UK,'' a Bush aide, Mike Green, told me in 2006.

''How is the Iraq war playing, or how is the war on terror playing?

"What Howard faces in domestic politics is very similar to what the president faces. So when the Australian election happened in 2004, there was a really keen interest here.''

Just as Australia returned a conservative government in that year, so did the US in re-electing Bush a month later. Just as the Australian cycle turned against the conservatives in 2007, so it turned in the US a year later. Once again, there was ideological and political alignment. Both countries were led by progressive politicians, and each one a generation younger than the leader he replaced.

''It's remarkable - Australian and US political biorhythms are in perfect sync,'' Green said. ''All the other allies must be jealous.''

The alignment does ease the way for bilateral relations. As the Obama administration's Kurt Campbell told me last year: ''One of the most interesting things to observe is which leaders - philosophically and in terms of temperament and approach to issues - bond initially with US presidents. At the top of the list right now is prime minister Rudd.''

Now that Kevin Rudd has fallen, the parallel is not precise. Obama cannot be toppled in a party-room coup because he is directly elected by the people, but the synchronicity continues nonetheless. The same forces that brought down Rudd are hammering away at Obama and his Democrats. First is the conservatives' tactic of aggressive confrontation.

The US Republicans used it first but Tony Abbott followed so closely and effectively that Norm Ornstein of the conservative American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research quipped in February, ''we may have a place for Tony Abbott here''. Obama's popularity, like Rudd's, suffered badly, falling below the 50 per cent threshold.

Then there are the issues. Three weeks after the Labor coup against Rudd, a front-page story in The Washington Post described a similar rush of internal frustration with the leader. It was headed: ''House Democrats hit boiling point''. The subhead: ''Obama tries to quell uprising''.

''In recent weeks, a widespread belief has taken hold among Democratic House members that they have dutifully gone along with the White House on politically risky issues - including the stimulus plan, the healthcare overhaul and climate change - without seeing much, if anything, in return.''

Point for point, this was exactly the situation in the Labor party room. Both party caucuses were unnerved by the fear of losing their seats in a coming election. The Democrats are expected to lose their majority in the US House election in November, just as Labor members feared under Rudd and now again under Julia Gillard. Obama faces re-election two years later.

What's next? One of the Post's flagship columnists, EJ Dionne, wrote last month: ''It's rare to see a dry run for an election campaign. But over the next month, Australia will provide a testing ground for some of the core themes in this November's American elections.''

He cited Gillard's slogan of ''moving forward'' and its implication that a Coalition win would be a regression to the Howard era. The Democrats have started to toy with the same idea, implying a vote for the Republicans would be a reversion to the Bush era.

''To make the trans-Pacific comparison even more interesting, Abbott's party is running on themes the Republicans hope to use here,'' he wrote. He quoted a Liberal ad: ''More Labor. More Waste. More Debt. More Taxes.''

Four days later, Newsweek published a similar piece examining Australia as a ''leading indicator'' for US politics. Alan Mascarenhas, a former Sydney Morning Herald reporter, wrote: ''The swashbuckling Abbott, with his mantra of 'end the waste and stop the debt', echoes deficit hawks in the US. But even more so, he replicates with relish the demagoguery of Tea Party candidates who have fused traditional conservative beliefs about social issues and government spending to cast grave doubts on the Obama administration.''

Both Dionne and Mascarenhas express some disbelief that Australians could be much troubled by debt, deficit, unemployment or economic hardship. In fact, Dionne described the Australian economy as ''a global marvel'', with ''astonishingly low'' unemployment of 5.2 per cent.

Mascarenhas pointed out that Australia's government debt, at just 6 per cent of gross domestic product, is the smallest in the industrialised world. He went on to conclude that ''if the Abbott-led conservatives can engineer a turnaround by beating the drum on deficits and debt, then alarm bells should ring louder for Democrats.

''If conservatives can mask their ideological baggage and win on a Tea Party-type economic platform in Australia - even where there is little basis for it - then just imagine the coming whirlwind in America.''

But a Labor loss needn't signal any sort of irrevocable Democrat destiny. It might instead be an object lesson to Obama. He might see that Labor's problems are avoidable.

A smart Democrat would draw three lessons. First, he would hold to his core promises and not jettison climate change in a panic. Second, he would tirelessly take his case to the people and not play a game of insider politics. Third, he would take care to deliver competent government. Then the canary would not have died in vain.
post #57 of 515
And this dude is ahead in the polls for the Republican Primary next week...

Republican gubernatorial candidate Dan Maes is warning voters that Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper's policies, particularly his efforts to boost bike riding, are "converting Denver into a United Nations community."

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Maes said in a later interview that he once thought the mayor's efforts to promote cycling and other environmental initiatives were harmless and well-meaning. Now he realizes "that's exactly the attitude they want you to have."

"This is bigger than it looks like on the surface, and it could threaten our personal freedoms," Maes said.

He added: "These aren't just warm, fuzzy ideas from the mayor. These are very specific strategies that are dictated to us by this United Nations program that mayors have signed on to."

Maes said in a later interview that he was referring to Denver's membership in the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives, an international association that promotes sustainable development and has attracted the membership of more than 1,200 communities, 600 of which are in the United States.
See...that's how they get you with riding a bike to work...
post #58 of 515
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See...that's how they get you with riding a bike to work...
You know who else like to ride bikes? Freddy Mercury and the chinese! I rest my case.
post #59 of 515
Wait. What?

I'm confused again, dammit.

So...Denver joins this thing, this United Nations bike thing, 18 years ago. And this goober claims it's a long-term plot for taking rights from us and rein in American cities. And the current Denver mayor, ten years after the city joined this thing, is involved in this insidious plot. He's trying to take away our personal freedoms. Because bikes are...what? Slow and next to useless in the McDonald's drivethru? Lousy for drive-by shootings? UTTERLY inefficient at creating precious air pollution?

See, this stuff can't be real. And if it is, how can you be expected to not take the Tennessee goober seriously. Or the South Carolina goober. Or the Michelle Bachman goober.
post #60 of 515
Here's what the Republicans are up to right here where I live:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_660964.html


ETA: Holy Shit! Hahahahah, I just realized I went to high-school with the 'cameraman," Jason.
post #61 of 515
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Wait. What?

I'm confused again, dammit.

So...Denver joins this thing, this United Nations bike thing, 18 years ago. And this goober claims it's a long-term plot for taking rights from us and rein in American cities. And the current Denver mayor, ten years after the city joined this thing, is involved in this insidious plot. He's trying to take away our personal freedoms. Because bikes are...what? Slow and next to useless in the McDonald's drivethru? Lousy for drive-by shootings? UTTERLY inefficient at creating precious air pollution?

See, this stuff can't be real. And if it is, how can you be expected to not take the Tennessee goober seriously. Or the South Carolina goober. Or the Michelle Bachman goober.
From another article...this guy is a fucking loon.
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Wednesday, Maes couldn't tell 9NEWS exactly what issue he had with ICLEI or Denver's membership in the program.

"I haven't even had the time to visit the terms of the agreement that Mayor Hickenlooper has signed off on," Maes said in a phone interview. "I am gonna beg a little patience from the media, so I can study the details of this program and then make a much more informed commentary about it."

Nate Strauch told The Associated Press that Maes was trying to say that the biking initiative is a "gateway program" being pushed by ICLEI on cities that eventually lead to extreme measures, such as the promotion of abortions and population control.
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Maes said he thought promoting more bicycling was pretty harmless at first, but he realized later "that's exactly the attitude they want you to have."
The Strauch guy is the spokesman for the Colorado Senate Candidate Jane Norton...also a Republican.

http://www.9news.com/news/politics_g...6839&catid=166
post #62 of 515
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Originally Posted by Mr.Crowley View Post
You know who else like to ride bikes? Freddy Mercury and the chinese! I rest my case.
And fat bottomed girls too...
post #63 of 515
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And fat bottomed girls too...
I thought they just made the rockin world go round.

And regarding the gooper up there in Denver: I've thought about it, and do you think he might mean something like this? That the UN organization thing may simply start with clean air initiatives and whatnot, but use those as a springboard for other "living improvements" or some such? Sure, make the bike paths a priority. Then, well, it's not too far a leap toward a requirement for businesses that have more than X employees to put in showers in case the employees commute on their bikes. Then, after that becomes status quo, a requirement that X percentage of employees are from the "bike commuters" pool? And then families are required to buy bikes for their kids at age 6 from the official list of federal suppliers? And so on?

But then we'd end up with reverse biker discrimination, a Schwinn backlash of epic proportions, cheap foreign bikes dumped on our shores at a loss, a scandal over kneepads that don't meet federal specs, oil company payoffs of congressmen trying to get legislation that defines "Scooter=bike", some velodrome superstar in a Vin Diesel movie that drives the "greatest bike chase scene ever", and In'n'Out Burger stands making all of their drive-thru window lanes three feet wide.

Fuck that shit.

Christ, I can't even extrapolate a negative to what that idiot is talking about without going off the deep end. Do any of these fuckers spend an ounce of brains on this stuff before they spew? Or are they actively trying to just confuse the electorate...the old "baffle em with bullshit" gambit?
post #64 of 515
Yahoo! News just debuted a new little graphic bar with projections and stuff.

So far:

Senate - 52 Democrat / 47 Republican (projections) vs. 59 Democrat / 41 Republican (current) | 51 needed for majority

House - 218 Democrat / 215 Republican (projections) vs. 255 Democrat / 178 Republican (current) | 218 needed for majority

Governor - 17 Democrat / 32 Republican / 1 Independent (projections) vs. 25 Democrat / 20 Republican (current) | 26 needed for majority

************

Does that sound accurate?

Do you really think conservatives will take that many Governor's spots?
post #65 of 515
There's a huge enthusiasm gap right now to rival the gaps the Democrats enjoyed in '06 and '08. Reid got a gift with Angle winning in Nevada, but no one is enthusiastic about him. He hasn't broken 50% in even the most Democratic-leaning of polls. For such a known commodity, that's really bad. Barring an Angle melt-down, I have a hard time seeing Reid winning that seat if there is the expected strong Republican turnout. Boxer, Feingold, and Murray are also polling below 50% with leads within the margin of error. The Yahoo Senate numbers almost seem like a best-case scenario for the Democrats right now. As for the House, Real Clear Politics' poll aggregation sees at least a net 24 seat gain for Republicans before they even get to the toss-ups. Of the 32 toss-ups, 31 of those seats are held by Democrats. If even half of those toss-ups go to the Republicans, they will take the House.

Of course, a lot can change in a few months. Today's primaries might shake things up quite a bit.
post #66 of 515
So what are Linda McMahon's chances for winning the senate seat now that she officially won the primary?

In the past I would have thought Connecticut would have stuck with a democrat, but celebrity republicans always bring out the numbers at the polls.
post #67 of 515
The quantity of limousine liberal money floating among Connecticut's upper middle class has lent our state a false reputation as a "liberal state." There are an awful lot of farmers and industrial workers at ground level. My neighbors remind me constantly of Archie Bunker. It's easy to get them to vote Republican if you appeal to their xenophobia. Keep in mind that CT Democrats fired Joe Lieberman in the party primaries over his unconditional support for the war in Iraq, but there were enough Republican voters to elect him as an Independant in the general elections.

Dodd and Lieberman both have served in the Senate with the letter (D) after their names, but both have worked hard to keep the naval base in Groton safe from the budget ax. This has kept a lot of otherwise conservative voters from losing their jobs and rendered both senators bulletproof against the usual Republican accusations of insufficient patriotism. Even in a Republican state, they've earned reputations as "good" Democrats.

As for McMahon, she's still a political cipher. The Republican primary campaigns here consisted entirely of "look how tasteless and working class wrasslin' is!" She's been too busy defending the way in which she made her money to actually articulate what kind of senator she'd be. This could easily be framed as lobby and industry money trying to pick off the sole candidate who is financially independant. If she uses that framework to define herself, she should do well in the general elections. Dodd's retiring; it's his seat that she's trying to take.
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post #69 of 515
So John McCain wins his primary in AZ, while in Florida Rick "who am I?" Scott wins the Republican nomination.

What (if anything) does this auger for the Mid Term Elections?
post #70 of 515
Believe it or not, Rick Scott was a far better alternative than that troll Bill McCollum. Still heinous, but it could have been far, far worse. Meanwhile, the Democratic primary made barely a peep, so I wonder how much of a chance they have come November.
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Meanwhile, the Democratic primary made barely a peep, so I wonder how much of a chance they have come November.
Do you think Charlie Crist will taken votes away from the Meeks? The pundits on the Today Show this morning were saying that outside of a small group of republicans, Crist's base demographic would strongly be composed of moderate democrats.

Either way, I get the feeling that the two largest voting demographics in Florida won't be headed to the polls for Meeks this November.
post #72 of 515
Another McMahon campaign story in today's New London Day. It's still all about the wrasslin', specifically the question of how much responsibility the employer has for the employee's drug overdose. In the unlikely event that we ever get a story about policy positions, I'll keep ya posted.
post #73 of 515
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Believe it or not, Rick Scott was a far better alternative than that troll Bill McCollum. Still heinous, but it could have been far, far worse. Meanwhile, the Democratic primary made barely a peep, so I wonder how much of a chance they have come November.
You mean it fucking gets WORSE than this?!





We're fucked if that's the case. Oh well, I've been wanting to leave this god-forsaken region for some time anyway.
post #74 of 515
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Another McMahon campaign story in today's New London Day. It's still all about the wrasslin', specifically the question of how much responsibility the employer has for the employee's drug overdose. In the unlikely event that we ever get a story about policy positions, I'll keep ya posted.
I went to school with this wrestler from fourth grade until I graduated high school. It's too bad he OD'ed in consideration of his family, but the guy was a total dick (he pushed me around in seventh grade because I danced with his ex-girlfriend at a school dance).

When news broke out about McNaught's (stage name Cade) death here in Omaha, I thought it might become a topic for McMahon's senate campaign. However, like I said the guy's a dick, and WWE booted him for having a pain pill-situation on an airplane a few years back. I'm guessing McMahon's campaign staff will be able to spin this fairly easily.

Edit: After finishing the whole article, it's funny to see McNaught blamed the WWE for the beginning of his alleged steroid use in 2003. The guy was roiding out like crazy back in our junior year of high school. Now I don't want McMahon to win the senate seat, but I really can't get on the bandwagon to blame her or Vince McMahon for McNaught's death. He knew the potential effects of steroids and pain pills prior to being in the WWE.
post #75 of 515
Democrats' Generic Ballot Poll Numbers Drop

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Two national polls released today and over the weekend report very different results leading to very different conclusions:

On Friday, under the headline "Democrats May Not Be Headed for Midterm Bloodbath," Newsweek reported results from a new national poll of registered voters showing Americans evenly split (45% to 45%) on the question of whether they would vote for the Democratic or Republican candidate for Congress in their district.

This afternoon, Gallup released another national survey of registered voters, also conducted last week, showing Republicans with an "unprecedented 10-point lead" (51% to 41%), the largest Republican advantage Gallup has measured in its nearly sixty years of tracking the so-called "generic ballot."
America is stupid.
post #76 of 515
<sigh>

So not only is the Republican Party running an anti-Alex Sink ad here in Florida promoting the astounding revelation that a Democratic president would support a Democratic candidate for governor, the spot ends by asking "What will Obama do to get Alex Sink elected?" followed by a clip of Obama saying, "Whatever it takes." So they're basically implying Obama's going to resort to outright fraud to get a Democrat in the governor's mansion.
post #77 of 515
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
<sigh>

So not only is the Republican Party running an anti-Alex Sink ad here in Florida promoting the astounding revelation that a Democratic president would support a Democratic candidate for governor, the spot ends by asking "What will Obama do to get Alex Sink elected?" followed by a clip of Obama saying, "Whatever it takes." So they're basically implying Obama's going to resort to outright fraud to get a Democrat in the governor's mansion.
Then there is this...
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Saturday marked the ninth anniversary of the September 11th attacks, typically a day when politics are put aside to honor the memory of those who died in New York, Virginia and Pennsylvania.

But the somber nature of the day didn't prevent nearly 4,000 Florida Republicans from gathering in a Sarasota arena to assail President Obama and root for Democratic failure in the midterm elections.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...1-anniversary/
Really...this couldn't wait one fucking day...
post #78 of 515
Rick Scott is a complete and total douche. Sink has a great ad where she asks why he's so worried about Obama when he should be worried about the state he's running to be governor of.
post #79 of 515
Congrats, Dems. The Senate Majority will remain in your hands.

post #80 of 515
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Originally Posted by jvc View Post
Congrats, Dems. The Senate Majority will remain in your hands.

I love how shamelessly she's trying to look like Palin 2.0.
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post #82 of 515
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I love how shamelessly she's trying to look like Palin 2.0.
In the secret inner Republican circles in which I run, the consensus seems to be that she is Sarah Palin without the brains. Chew on that one for a minute.
post #83 of 515
Someone reassure me that the Dems can beat these clowns, because I'm a little worried that we're going to be swept up in the usual "Throw the Bums Out" movement we have every mid-term election and instead of getting rid of those that do deserve to get booted, we're going to replace them with these types of people.
post #84 of 515
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I must just rub one out to this picture purely out of spite.
post #85 of 515
You know that somewhere right now production is gearing up on the all-girl Naylin' Paylin 2: Doin' O'Donnell.
post #86 of 515
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Originally Posted by Dr Vivisector View Post
Someone reassure me that the Dems can beat these clowns, because I'm a little worried that we're going to be swept up in the usual "Throw the Bums Out" movement we have every mid-term election and instead of getting rid of those that do deserve to get booted, we're going to replace them with these types of people.
O'Donnell wont win, that's for sure. Whether or not the Dems can beat anyone else -- who knows. What makes me happy is that the Dems that will lose their seats are the stupid ass Blue Dogs. Those guys stink.
post #87 of 515
There's an ad running in Orlando featuring a bunch of senior citizens going after Reps. Suzanne Kosmas and Alan Grayson for supporting Obamacare, although the strongest criticism against Grayson is some old lady saying, "He called some people some not so nice names when they disagreed with him." The tag line is "We'll remember in November," and believe me, if some these people remember their grandkids come November, I'll be impressed.
post #88 of 515
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Originally Posted by jvc View Post
In the secret inner Republican circles in which I run, the consensus seems to be that she is Sarah Palin without the brains.
No. You're just funnin with us now.

Didn't Stephen King foretell of some of this shit in "Dead Zone"?
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You know that somewhere right now production is gearing up on the all-girl Naylin' Paylin 2: Doin' O'Donnell.
*showers, trims pubes, readies himself for camera*

I still can't believe that's the anti-masturbation chick.
post #90 of 515
All-GIRL, Jake. Back in your trailer!
post #91 of 515
I tucked it back and everything! Fuck.
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I tucked it back and everything! Fuck.
Show them "your sister," Jake.
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Originally Posted by jvc View Post
In the secret inner Republican circles in which I run, the consensus seems to be that she is Sarah Palin without the brains. Chew on that one for a minute.
I did, and it tastes horrible.
post #94 of 515
I'll just dramatically remove my robe and let them drink in the glory.
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I'll just dramatically remove my robe and let them drink in the glory.
Good news, everyone!

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post #97 of 515
Did anyone outside of Bob Shrum and Paul Begala ever think that Alaska could be a few months away from having two Democratic senators?
post #98 of 515
I can't see Murkowski going all the way through with this. If she eats into Miller's lead I'm guessing she'll drop out. I'd still be shocked if McAdams pulls this off.

The inner turmoil in the Republican Party is astounding. I'd enjoy watching it more if I didn't know they were all unbalanced people with many firearms.
post #99 of 515
So we're what, less than 6 weeks from election day and the Dems have been fumbling around while the republicans drink their milkshake. November 3rd is gonna be one shitty morning. Say the republicans pick up one chamber - does that effectively end ANY idea of shit getting through before the 2012 election? I mean, the Dems have been largely ineffective with a large majority, I can only imagine what the whining will be like with a republican senate.
post #100 of 515
So Rick Scott is running ads that amount to, "Obama bad!" While Alex Sink is running ads about what she'd do for the state of Florida. Of course she doesn't stand a chance.

And I love Scott saying, "Politicians can't change things." Yes, which is why you're running to become a politician.
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