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post #501 of 515
11/15/10 at 9:36pm
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Originally Posted by The Prankster View Post
McCain seemed like a decent guy too. Then as soon as he got serious about running, he started pandering to the nascent Tea Party folks.
Well, all things being equal, McCain might have also proved what a terrible idea it was for a GOP presidential nominee to pander to the Tea Party set during the general election.
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post #502 of 515
11/16/10 at 5:34am
The Tea Party didn't exist in the 2008 election cycle. McCain pandered to the far Right in an effort to break the notion that he was a "RINO".
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post #503 of 515
11/16/10 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by Snaieke View Post
The Tea Party didn't exist in the 2008 election cycle. McCain pandered to the far Right in an effort to break the notion that he was a "RINO".
While this is true, I think the roots of the Tea Party movement can be tied directly to speakers at McCain rallies throughout his campaign. Nothing reminds me of the Tea Party like this guy. To be fair though, McCain never really knew how to energize this base...mostly because even he knew they were batshit insane. I still remember the look on his face when that woman confessed she was worried because Obama was a Muslim.

But fuck McCain for putting the "Straight" in the Straight Talk Express concerning Don't Ask Don't Tell. Whatever principles he used to have seemed to have been abandoned during that campaign. It's like he's still campaigning. I just don't get it.
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post #504 of 515
11/16/10 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by Snaieke View Post
The Tea Party didn't exist in the 2008 election cycle. McCain pandered to the far Right in an effort to break the notion that he was a "RINO".
Hence "nascent".

The point is that it doesn't matter how moderate the guy is, if you're a Republican candidate for President you apparently have to play to the crazies, whatever form they take. See also Mitt Romney, though he was much slicker about it. This is what's hurting the party.
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post #505 of 515
11/16/10 at 1:59pm
And here's who we sent to Washington:

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Maryland physician Andy Harris (R) just soundly defeated Frank Kratovil, one of the most endangered Democrats on Capitol Hill going into the November election. And he did it in large part by railing against 'Obamacare' and pledging to repeal Health Care Reform. But when he showed on Capitol Hill today for an orientation for incoming members of Congress and their staffs, he had a different question: Where's my government health care?

According to Glenn Thrush of Politico, Harris created a stir at the orientation meeting by demanding to know why he had to wait a month after he was sworn in in January for his government-subsidized health care to kick in. After responding in a huff, he even asked if there was some way he could buy into the government care in advance, seemingly thinking there might be a government program similar to the so-called 'public option' championed by progressive Democrats in 2009.
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post #506 of 515
11/16/10 at 2:25pm
To be fair, homeboy could have a sick wife or kid. I dont see this as any different than me wondering when my new health care coverage begins if I start a new job.
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post #507 of 515
11/16/10 at 2:29pm
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Originally Posted by The Closer View Post
To be fair, homeboy could have a sick wife or kid. I dont see this as any different than me wondering when my new health care coverage begins if I start a new job.
Right. Maybe he's got a family member with preexisting conditions. He wants to know how much coverage he has before--

(Democratic answer)
....he gets his first graft payment from his Corporate Masters.

(Republican answer)
...he repeals Obamacare. USA! USA!
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post #508 of 515
11/16/10 at 2:38pm
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Originally Posted by The Closer View Post
To be fair, homeboy could have a sick wife or kid. I dont see this as any different than me wondering when my new health care coverage begins if I start a new job.
He could always buy health coverage from one of the many private insurers out there. Why would he be so interested in shitty, government run care?
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post #509 of 515
11/16/10 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by The Closer View Post
To be fair, homeboy could have a sick wife or kid. I dont see this as any different than me wondering when my new health care coverage begins if I start a new job.
Maybe, but the way his tone is described in the article doesn't paint him that sympathetically.

EDIT: He's also a state assemblyman and a practicing physician at John's Hopkins, so I assume he already has SOME kind of health care.
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post #510 of 515
11/16/10 at 2:48pm
Yeah, but think about it...why would someone volunteer to pay extra to buy into a policy (as opposed to waiting 30 days) unless the coverage was necessary?

I know it seems kind of funny, but if I just started a new job and was confused/misinformed as to when coverage...that my family needed...would begin, Id probably be a bit huffy too.

Or he could be an asshole.
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post #511 of 515
11/16/10 at 4:17pm
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Originally Posted by The Closer View Post

Or he could be an asshole.
Or just really, really stupid.
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post #512 of 515
11/16/10 at 5:27pm
The fact that the guy rails against public healthcare but demands it for himself is what marks him out as an asshole.
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post #513 of 515
11/16/10 at 5:40pm
I thought that marks him out as stupid.
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post #514 of 515
11/16/10 at 6:55pm
Assholes are pretty stupid. They talk a lot of shit.
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post #515 of 515
11/18/10 at 12:49pm
A handful of Democratic lawmakers have responded to the Harris incident by urging all Congress members that opposed the health care plan to give up their own plans.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/d...d-health-care/

They need to take this & scream it from the fucking rooftops.
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