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post #1 of 21
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As a piece of agitprop filmmaking, this film sank its claws in and shook me violently for 90 minutes. It gave me vindictivly violent thoughts about things I wanted to do to the Japanese (some of the 'characters' in the film literally come across evil), long to swim with the dolphins (but not in a tourist spot), got me tensed up more than The Hurt Locker did, and was a showcase for an amazing man whose life changed in a way right out of a character arc in the Hollywood convention playbook.

Though, I do find it kinda annoying to sit through this kind of film where I can hear the self-righteous sighs of the audience going, "Tsk... ugh... huh... Jesus...," and whatnot.

But I would recommend the film to anyone without hesitation. It's beautiful, thrilling, heartbreaking, and poignant.

...

It also features a cameo from Vigo Von Homburg Deutschendorf.
post #2 of 21
Was very impressed. Rough one to watch, but impeccably constructed.
post #3 of 21
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Oh, just FYI if anyone else goes to see this...

Stay after the credits and there is a little bonus moment.
post #4 of 21
Damn. I left during the credits. Does it show Private Space get eaten by a dolphin?
post #5 of 21
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Ha! I wish.

All it showed was the daredevil of the 'Ocean's 11 team' showing the Taiji cops the big fish balloon he was about to send into the air. For the children. He was very civil and friendly about it... with a smirk.
post #6 of 21
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Ebert loves it.

And he was certainly struck by Ric O'Barry's story as I was.
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But when all of the facts have been marshaled and the cases made, one element of the film stands out above all, and that is the remorse of Richard O’Barry. He became rich and famous because of the TV series, which popularized and sanitized the image of captive dolphins. He has been trying for 25 years to make amends.
post #7 of 21
I thought this was a pretty amazing little flick- the suspense they managed to craft from the adventures of the "Ocean's 11" group was pretty enticing, and I was totally alert and attentive for the 90 minutes. It doesn't spare the Japanese an inch of sympathy, though, and by the end, I can see somebody walking out of there having a whole new argument for the atom bomb droppings.

I just loved that it felt kind of natural and raw in it's activism and the actions taken to make sure that this massacre of dolphins stops. It also has probably the best wrap-up comeuppance I've ever seen during the end titles. It's fantastic, and I can totally this getting awards.
post #8 of 21
I suppose its too much to ask that the Dolphin Cove killings were stopped?

At least that Japanese spokesperson guy came down with Mercury poisoning.
post #9 of 21
Quick question: Anyone have any idea what the world population of dolphins is? I'm talking over all, not just bottlenose dolphins? The internets can tell me what the stupid filler text is on an old Leave it to Beaver episode prop yet it cannot cough up this estimate.

While I found this documentary enthralling, I couldn't help but facepalm at the surfers that circled together on their boards in the middle of the capture cove.
post #10 of 21
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I think the documentary was kinda facepalming about them too. It looked like they were all crying. I think it's commendable that they tried to do SOMETHING about it, but I think their method was used on the wrong culture.
post #11 of 21
It worked!

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The western Japanese town of Taiji will sell some of the animals to aquariums as it does every year, but the remainder of the 100 bottlenose dolphins that were caught early Wednesday in the first catch of the season are to be released.
Its a start.
post #12 of 21
Finally saw this at the local indie theater today.

I can probably count on one hand the number of films that have pissed me off this bad. Great film, but brutal.
post #13 of 21
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I want to see this again. I wonder when it comes out on video...

EDIT: Amazon says December 8th. But just the DVD. The page for the blu-ray says unknown.
post #14 of 21
Well, I'm glad it wasn't TOO rough to sit through, because I'm going to have to. The theater I saw it at didn't have the aspect ratio projected properly, and the lowest level of subtitles were completely cut off, and you could barely read the top line if and when there were two lines of subtitles.

This was especially annoying when they cut to the cocksucking dolphin murderers chatting before dawn when the Cove was finally revealed.
post #15 of 21
I was actually in Nick's camp initially on this movie...where I couldn't bring myself to watch it because of a low tolerance for animal cruelty and a deep desire to get all Torquemada on the perpetrators of said cruelty. But seeing that it made the Oscars, I thought I had to give it a shot. Like a lot of you you, I'm sure, it made me alternately sick to my stomach and angry.

It's something that I never want my kids to see, but it is a remarkable story and film. A lot of ground has already been covered here on what makes it a great movie, the heist-film vibe, Ric O'Barry's arc, the pacing, etc. It's hard to recommend to people without including a huge caveat about how it will break your heart and make you long for Godzilla to rise up out of the mercury-laden waters and daintily nibble on fisherman like edamame, but I sincerely hope that it wins best Documentary Feature. I haven't seen the other nominees, but find it hard to believe that any of the other ones could be as affecting...all due respect to the people of Burma, the plight of illegal immigrants, the horrors of the food industry, and Daniel Ellsberg, of course.

McNooj, the thought of watching this in Blu-Ray makes me shudder...DVD is about as high a resolution as you want for this one, folks.

And oh yeah, fuck anyone who blames cetaceans for the decrease in fish populations. Fuck them right in the blowhole.

ETA: Looks like it's got a Japanese release date! http://www.cinematical.com/2010/02/0...-release-date/
post #16 of 21
Awesome film. I hope an Oscar win will generate renewed interest, as it really deserves crossover success. Hopefully it'll find a bigger theatrical audience in Japan as result also.

I so want to crash one of those IWC meetings and bitch-slap that Joji guy and his bow-tie wearing stooge.
post #17 of 21
That bit with the TV strapped to his chest. Damn.
post #18 of 21
I know. I loved the ending where he storms in with the tv on his chest with that emotional peiece of music, made me choke up a little. A great peice of film making, the subject matter was inherently emotional, but man it was so well made and well paced.
post #19 of 21
Good doc. Really heartbreaking stuff. Hopefully, if it hasn't already, the dolphin slaughter will stop.

If dolphins are so intelligent and travel so much in a day, you'd think sonar would get out and they'd steer very clear of that place.
post #20 of 21
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Some updates about how the film has been faring in terms of being shown in Japan.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/22/wo...a/22japan.html
post #21 of 21

Caught this on Netflix tonight and its just as powerful as I thought it would be but surprisingly moving. Especially O'Barry's story which is so sad and tragic.

 

Glad I don't eat sushi. Oh and beware of raw uncooked salmon for those that eat it merely google salmon and parasite worms.

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