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This morning I received an email with a link to an article about a new comic book that comes out on August 5th. The article goes on to state that this comic has “shattered” a sales record and has already sold over 10,000 copies. No, the book doesn’t feature Batman or Spider-Man and it wasn’t written by Neil Gaimen, Grant Morrison or Brian Michael Bendis. Instead it was written by Tyrese Gibson and the book is titled Mayhem.

As an aspiring comic book writer myself, I became intrigued with the success of this book and I wanted to know “How did he do it?” Luckily for you, I have compiled a list of 5 key elements all aspiring comic writers must follow if they want to emulate this success and break into the comic book biz.

Hopefully this list can help others who have spent years and years writing comic books, only to find little or no success. Without further ado, I present to you, in no particular order and at no charge, 5 steps to follow if you want to become a successful comic book writer in 2009:

1. Land a Role in a Summer Blockbuster

I think this is a key element that any wannabe comic writer must accomplish. It doesn’t matter if the film is good or not, but it must be a blockbuster. If it’s a blockbuster, you’ll be asked to go on various television shows to give interviews about the film. While giving these interviews, make sure to mention you have a comic book coming out soon. If you can, bring a couple of sequential pages with you so you can show them to the audience. Bingo, you have just been seen by hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions, plugging your comic book.

Super Cool Bonus Tip: Time the release of your comic book to coincide with the summer blockbuster you’ll be starring in. This will only help in generating sales and interest.

2. Be Good Looking (Prior Modeling Work is a Plus)

By good looking, I mean really, really good looking. In fact, prior modeling experience should be somewhere on your resume if you want to go straight to the comic big leagues. Let’s face it. This is the age of the internet and gone are the days where your readers don’t see what you look like. Shave the beard, loose some weight and cut your hair. Dress well and when you can, show off your abs!

Super Cool Bonus Tip: If possible, make sure your best pictures are easily accessible to potential fans. Pictures like you not wearing a shirt while on a beach or where you’re with another hot model and it looks like you two want to fuck the shit out of each other work best. This will allow you to sell your comic to young girls who won’t even read the book, but instead just want to rub up against it.

3. Have a Hit Single

First you need to land on a label and get a recording deal. Call up Warner Brothers or Sony and ask if they’ll sign you. If they do, you’re good to now collaborate with an artist like Snoop Dogg or Ludacris. If you really want to stay current, call up Justin Timberlake and ask him to do the harmonies and dance in your music video. Once you do all of these things, release the album (a picture of you on the cover with your bare chest is highly recommended. see step 2) and move units.

Super Cool Bonus Tip: Write a song about love and how you’re a real sensitive guy who’s been hurt and who is afraid to love again. This will again bring in the young girl audience, who normally don’t read comics, but who will now drip for your sensitivity.

4. Originality is Overrated and Should be Tossed Aside

If you’re writing a comic book that doesn’t include either a superhero, a vigilante or zombies, you’re going to fail. Plain and simple. Additionally the superhero or vigilante should be conflicted with who they are and constantly debating with themselves about if what they are doing is the right thing.

Super Cool Bonus Tip: Write in a love interest. Have the woman be someone from either their past or someone they can’t reveal their true identity to. Additionally they should have giant tits that are disproportionate to their bodies.

5. Call or Meet Up with Already Established Comic Pros

Remember when I said this list wasn’t in any particular order? I kind of lied. This step will be a lot easier to accomplish if you have already accomplished steps 1, 2 or 3. Regardless though, you should call Todd McFarlane or set up a meeting with Jim Lee or Avi Arad and ask them for guidance. Getting insight from the pros will increase your comic writing cred and will also allow you to gain information on what works and what doesn’t.

Super Cool Bonus Tip: If you can, while on the phone with any of these pros, hit them up about possibly doing some cover art for you. You’ll now have someone who’s already established in the industry bringing in more sales and fans. Straight up gusto.

There you have it. 5 steps to becoming a successful comic book writer. Let’s recap: Land a role in a summer blockbuster. Be really good looking. Put out a hit single. Toss out any and all thoughts of originality and lastly call up some comic book veterans. If you do these things, I personally guarantee that your comic book will move units. I guarantee it.

Now if you’ll excuse me I’ve got a busy day ahead of me. I’ve got a casting call at 9:00, personal training at 11:00 and vocal lessons at 1:00. After all of that I’ll focus on writing my comic book about a superhero vigilante who also happens to be a zombie. I call it Chaos!
http://shannoncronin.com/blog/becomi...eps-to-follow/

The worst part? To see each and every comic writer and artist sucking up to him just because he's an actor. Seriously, check the preview pages! This would never be approved without the Tyrese connection!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3148
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Nobody complained when Rosario Dawson wrote a comic because she's so hawt.
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Holy shit Tyrese is awesome I will get this
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Comic book readers complaining about poor writing? That's a fucking joke.
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I don't really think that's what this post was about.
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Nobody complained when Rosario Dawson wrote a comic because she's so hawt.
I think mostly because we were too busy rolling our eyes.

Honestly, I find it hard to get worked up about this. They'll put out a couple of issues, the guy will get bored (he apparently wants to sample every creative medium without actually accomplishing anything in any of them) and that will be that.

I'd actually actively approve of this kind of thing if comic companies were smart enough to use it as a lever to get people reading other comics without a celebrity hook.
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My shop sold two issues of that Rosario Dawson comic (both special orders from a couple of our weirder customers, and that's saying something), and nobody wants anything to do with this.
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Step One : Don't waste your time crying about a celebrity getting a surefire failure published by what amounts to the garbage dump of rejected Marvel and DC pitches, and instead work harder on making your own shit worth publishing.

But hey, that would actually take some effort.
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Image = "garbage dump of rejected Marvel and DC pitches?"

I have to disagree with you, there. The third issue of "Chew" from writer John Layman and artist Rob Guillory comes out today and is just about one of the most fun new books of '09 and that's an Image book.
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Also, Joe Casey's Codeflesh - my favourite HC of the year thus far.
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What kind of sales record is "shattered" by moving 10,000 copies?

Well, apart from a personal one for Tyrese, I mean.
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I like the subtle jealousy in the list. I find it shocking that the author can master such nuance and yet not succeed in comics.
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Sure, Image does publish a lot of great stuff. I certainly wouldn't turn my nose up at them as a publisher. But the majority of their smaller creator owned output, like this, actually IS just rejected Marvel/DC pitches.
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If you waste your time being angry about this you probably won't make it in the industry. I haven't heard anything about Tyrese being an asshole to anyone in the comics world. While this seems to be a pretty transparent way for a mid-level actor to develop a property to shop around town for themselves he is famous enough that it means exposure to new readers. There also aren't a lot of these types of roles for black actors to choose from so I would have to give Tyrese kudos for taking the initiative to create one for himself in a way that studios might actually pay attention to.

I'd hardly call Image a dumping ground. If you are pitching your creator owned book to Marvel and DC and you aren't already a known commodity then you are most likely a fucking idiot.

Marvel only has a creative owned imprint available for top tier writers that they want to keep happy. Icon is basically a way for guys like Bendis to do creator owned stuff without breaking his exclusive contract.

Vertigo is meant to be a little high brow (as far as a comic book goes) so you don't see a lot of superhero action type stuff from them. Its also a situation where if someone from Vertigo doesn't come to you and ask if you have anything to pitch them you might as well not even bother unless you are a name or becoming a name.

I'd rather read this book by an actor with an artist I sort of like than any of the gay shit I see pitched by the guy who wrote this article. It all sounded pretty fucking terrible to me. Like a bunch of spec scripts that were collecting dust on his hard drive. I also don't see any artist names mentioned. A no name isn't getting a book published without artwork. No publisher accepts fucking scripts without artwork unless your name is Ellis, Ennis or Kirkman.

Oh, and if you have the money to pay them comic book veterans will do as many covers for your comic no matter who the fuck you are. You want a cover by a name artist all you have to do is meet their asking price. Doesn't matter what their name is. They will do it if you can pay.
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Maybe, as an aspiring comic book writer, you should know how to spell Neil GAIMAN.
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Vertigo is meant to be a little high brow (as far as a comic book goes)

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Fuck you. Comics can be art, and much of what was printed under Vertigo is pure sequential art. I love people arguing a point by showing disdain about the topic at hand. As far as message board postings go.
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No, Chap's pretty close to the truth there. For every Sandman you've got a dozen Preachers or Y's, which are more pulp than art.
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I was more or less thinking about all the chicken fucking that happens in some Vertigo comics. I love Preacher and Exterminators as much as anyone. And while those books are certainly art I don't think most people would call them high brow. A lot of comic book fans think high brow just means no superheroes. That's what I was referring to.

I was not showing disdain for the artform at all. The word highbrow doesn't always pertain to quality or value. In this case it is shorthand for no capes.

If someone pitched Preacher to Merchant Ivory I think they would probably have objected to all the chicken fucking.
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No, Chap's pretty close to the truth there. For every Sandman you've got a dozen Preachers or Y's, which are more pulp than art.
It's the disdain I didn't like, not the truthiness to the statement Bob. You have no idea how many people I get into fights with over comics and whether or not they are legitimate art. Not every comic will be up to that standard and that's pretty much a no-brainer (just like not every song created can actually be called art, etc.). I just finished reading Yoshihiro Tatsumi's biographical work A Drifting Life, and it has become my new beating stick to whump the people who say "Why do you get pissed off about what people think about comics? THEY'RE JUST COMICS!!"
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I was more or less thinking about all the chicken fucking that happens in some Vertigo comics. I love Preacher and Exterminators as much as anyone. And while those books are certainly art I don't think most people would call them high brow. A lot of comic book fans think high brow just means no superheroes. That's what I was referring to.

I was not showing disdain for the artform at all. The word highbrow doesn't always pertain to quality or value. In this case it is shorthand for no capes.

If someone pitched Preacher to Merchant Ivory I think they would probably have objected to all the chicken fucking.
I understand now. Sometimes it's easy to misinterpret message board postings.
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I know there were a couple of scenes in the original shooting script of Howard's End with some chicken fucking but I don't think they ever shot them.
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I know there were a couple of scenes in the original shooting script of Howard's End with some chicken fucking but I don't think they ever shot them.
See now you're talking about movies, which doesn't actually happen here. Knock that off please.
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I feel like I should redact my previous statement and just amend it to say that Image, much like everyone else, publishes more crap than good stuff, at least in my personal experience. A lot of it feels like (and some of it I personally know to be) concepts that just wouldn't sell at DC or Marvel that are reworked with different characters and costumes.

Image is generally a bit more open as a publisher, because in many cases they're absolutely just that. They publish the work, but the onus of marketing and press is on you. I was involved in a project that got the go-ahead for publishing, but we just couldn't foot the bill to market it properly so we ended up having to decline. I don't hold anything against Image for that, and I'd certainly submit to them again next time I've got a project ready to pitch.
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I don't really think that's what this post was about.
It wasn't. But hey, it's Devin, dude.
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See now you're talking about movies, which doesn't actually happen here. Knock that off please.
I'm curious as to who you are having these arguments about whether or not comic books are art. I call bullshit. Unless you are arguing that all comic books are high art... and even then I would think anyone who would disagree with that viewpoint wouldn't give such an argument enough value or weight to actually try and convince someone otherwise.

I would think that anyone who enjoys comics would count them as art and anyone else either doesn't know enough or care enough about comics to really give a shit. I would think everyone would at the very least classify comic books as pop art.

Who is this imaginary art snob character you are having these disagreements with? Does he wear a monocle? A beret? Both?

I am actually pretty familiar with the industry and have published a couple of indie books. In the last eight years of working in the indie comics world I have never encountered anyone who was adamant that comic books could not be art or even someone who insisted that if they did qualify as art it could only be considered "low" art. I really don't think such a person exists outside of some Caddyshack by way of Comic Con fantasy.
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ha ha saxon's just the fantasy tonight
it's funny to call it like here because

wait
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"COMIC BOOKS ARE TOTALLY ART!"

"I didn't say that they weren't."

"THEY ARE ART! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND! THEY ARE WORKS OF REAL ART!"

"Please let go of my arm. You are hurting me."
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I don't know about comics being art. Sure there are artistic elements that comprise each issue or OGN, but a comic book itself isn't art just because it exists, and the entire industry shouldn't be artistically validated because less than 10% of it can pass as thought provoking or innovative. There is an art to creating comic books, and the medium itself is an art form, but comics in general aren't art. So for a guy like Tyrese to get a gig writing a book that nobody is going to read, hell, good for him. And if you ask a lot of current writers and artists how to break into the comic industry on the creative end, most will say, "Start in TV, then work your way in." If only people knew it were that simple!
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If you want to break into the industry as a writer and you don't want to go the Hollywood first route, you need money to pay an artist and failing getting picked up by a creator owned publisher, money to publish the book yourself.
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And then you're only one phone call away from the big time!
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And then you're only one phone call away from the big time!
I wouldn't hold my breath while waiting for it to come. Most guys toil away in obscurity for 8-10 years before anyone notices them. I myself am only on year four of my life as an obscure indie creator.
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Weird, it's a muscular black guy. I wonder who could play him in the film?
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Terrance Howard.
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I'm curious as to who you are having these arguments about whether or not comic books are art. I call bullshit. Unless you are arguing that all comic books are high art... and even then I would think anyone who would disagree with that viewpoint wouldn't give such an argument enough value or weight to actually try and convince someone otherwise.

I would think that anyone who enjoys comics would count them as art and anyone else either doesn't know enough or care enough about comics to really give a shit. I would think everyone would at the very least classify comic books as pop art.

Who is this imaginary art snob character you are having these disagreements with? Does he wear a monocle? A beret? Both?

I am actually pretty familiar with the industry and have published a couple of indie books. In the last eight years of working in the indie comics world I have never encountered anyone who was adamant that comic books could not be art or even someone who insisted that if they did qualify as art it could only be considered "low" art. I really don't think such a person exists outside of some Caddyshack by way of Comic Con fantasy.
I would never qualify all comics as art, but the typical argument I get into is over the dismissive attitude a lot of my friends have over comics in general, like in their eyes they never could be art. I've shown them examples of what I love in the medium, and over the years have managed to convert a few over to believing in that potential too. It's not that they were arguing straight-up that comics couldn't be art. It's a more fundamental scorn on comics themselves that I've been railing against.

When I read your first post in the thread, I got hung up on this line: Vertigo is meant to be a little high brow (as far as a comic book goes), but I realize I completely took it out of context. Sorry.
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The news about this comic are better than the comic itself:

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Originally Posted by MF Grimm, Marketing Director of the comic
On several occasions over the past few months, the creators decided to forget about their responsibilities (writing a good comic book) and on a whim, turned their focus to the marketing of Tyrese Gibson's MAYHEM!; it was during these times they found mutiple ways to insult well-respected people within the comic book industry
http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22550
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When a retailer complains about this kind of marketing because it never translates into meaningful sales it is justified. Its still annoying and a complete waste of time for an obnoxious and clearly self-entitled wannabe writer to write a snarky blog about it because he's jealous.

The appropriate response to something like Mayhem as a reader or creator of comic books is to roll your eyes and ignore it.
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