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post #1 of 12
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I thought I'd bring a discussion from last night between me and some friends over here.

Alright, the discussion involved me, Friend A and Friend B. As it turns out, Friend A has an interesting system for himself. He has quite a substantial movie collection and is a bit obsessive about it. As it turns out, what he has started doing is he has taken all of his movies and made copies of them for himself to watch, while leaving the actual DVDs he bought alone. If he does this, he says his DVD collection remains pristine while still maintaining functionality. He only watches his copies of the films. If a friend wants to borrow a movie, he is lent and returns the copy of the film, not the film itself. If a film is lost or destroyed, it's ok, because he still has the original. The actual DVDs remain untouched. He also makes digital copies of many of his films for his iPod and his Apple TV.

Friend B is Captain Download. I don't think he's paid for movies or music in years. We've often both ganged up on him and berated him for his illegal downloading. He took this as the opportunity to strike back at Friend A as advocating piracy. He says Friend A is copying DVDs and therefore is participating in Piracy.

I ask you all what you think. I know that around these parts, piracy is not tolerated, and I feel the same way. I'm just wondering what your consensus is. In our conversation last night, I didn't see A's actions as piracy. He's making copies, yes, but not for distribution or anything, simply for himself. He's paid for the film . . . He doesn't "share" them (I mean any more than any of us share a movie by lending them out from time to time) and he doesn't distribute them. But maybe I'm wrong. But Friend B never made a solid argument last night about how it is piracy. Maybe you all can.
post #2 of 12
I see copying your own dvds for the purpose of protecting them and extending the ways you can use them as piracy no more than using a DVR to time-shift a movie or tv show, as long as he isn't distributing copies to others (beyond the aforementioned borrowing).
post #3 of 12
Friend B is definitely a pirate. I see no valid justification for what he does.

Friend A is merely an anal-retentive collector of films.

And there is nothing wrong with that.
post #4 of 12
If he's making disc to disc copies, then technically he has to be breaking the encryption/DRM on the DVD. Thus, he is technically violating the DMCA.

However, he's not hosting torrents. And he owns the originals. Under any sane, consumer friendly standard of ownership, I say what he's doing is not piracy.
post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by Eyeball Kid View Post
If he's making disc to disc copies, then technically he has to be breaking the encryption/DRM on the DVD. Thus, he is technically violating the DMCA.

However, he's not hosting torrents. And he owns the originals. Under any sane, consumer friendly standard of ownership, I say what he's doing is not piracy.
We are talking about the US government here. So sane goes out the window.
post #6 of 12


Both your buddies are pirates.
post #7 of 12
Technically they are both pirating the movies, all common sense aside. Unfortunately, the law has no room for grey. It is black and white.

Personally, I believe you should back up your collection. I think the studios are beginning to think this as well, with the advent of Digital Copies being offered on some movies now.
post #8 of 12
One is engaging in piracy; one is engaging in lunacy.
post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by Snaieke View Post


Both your buddies are pirates.
Does one get some sort of reward for turning in film pirates?

I've often wondered.
post #10 of 12
I once thought my DVD collection was valuable, even all the special editions/limited editions. But then I started selling them, and realized that they aren't worth shit.
post #11 of 12
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Does one get some sort of reward for turning in film pirates?

I've often wondered.
Not anymore but I remember 321 Studios before they went under were trying anything to keep afloat. They offered $10,000 reward.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/3793.cfm


Each time you did a 'backup' they would put that message up and it would last for like, 5 seconds. They're gone now, they lost a lawsuit and sent out an 'update' that would prevent you from creating DVD "Backups".
post #12 of 12
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Originally Posted by billylove View Post
I once thought my DVD collection was valuable, even all the special editions/limited editions. But then I started selling them, and realized that they aren't worth shit.
Until they go out of print and are never reissued, at which point their value isn't judged in dollars but in how much the film actually means to you.

Chopped up or otherwise defective reissues don't count.
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