Put two and two together, my friend...
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8/17/09 at 4:44pm
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also, sorry if i do not care about being called intollerant for not tollerating intolernece
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i believe obama is faking his religious convictions.
boston had problems, but we never lynched people in boston took photos of the mutilated bodies, and sent them out as postcards to our nearest and dearest with captions like "look at the BBQ we had!".... the south though? yeah... the south did that shit. also, sorry if i do not care about being called intollerant for not tollerating intolernece |
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i believe obama is faking his religious convictions.
Boston had problems, but we never lynched people in boston took photos of the mutilated bodies, and sent them out as postcards to our nearest and dearest with captions like "look at the bbq we had!".... The south though? Yeah... The south did that shit. Also, sorry if i do not care about being called intollerant for not tollerating intolernece |
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he did no such thing, i've seen every episode of his show since katrina.
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Did any of you guys seem him on Real Time with Bill Maher on friday? IT WAS AMAZING!!!
1) he is the biggest celeb on real time in a while 2) what he said suprised even my dog he said that he has no use for god, but USED to tolerate other peoples beleifs, but that since prop 8 and bill mahers film (a film he called an awakening) he no longer tolerates people who want to push their values onto others he also discussed marijuana and bill talked about how brad rolled perfect joints it was , in a word: AMAZING you all owe it to yourselves to watch. i've NEVER seen a star of pitts calibar come out and say stuff like that about god in public before. he just went up in my estimation |
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Even if you believe Obama is "faking it", this would mean he's ok with being represented as a religious person in public life - he's standing up for and endorsing religion either way.
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And racism is not a contest. The point is that the North has decried the Southern states as racist forever while refusing to acknowledge its own history of racism and discrimination - you'll find many have made this same point, from Malcom X on down.
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Likewise, the reasons for the Civil War happening are infinitley more complex than just the slavery issue - which I'm sure you're aware of, since you number history as one of your favourite topics. It's a rather large jump to believe every last poor kid fighting for the confederate army was serving willingly to help maintain slavery.
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Thing is, when you rally against the South, you are NOT rallying against bigots - you're insulting a giant section of your country, most of whom are not bigoted, and most of whom are likely to take offense at your insulting them and the people they know. Also, I feel sorta weird even having to point this out, but: not all people who are proud of being southerners are white. There is, for instance, a subtle, underground tendency within Hip-Hop during the last few decades for artists to mention that they're southern. Just saying.
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Finally, you might wanna consider that "ignorance" does not come from a vacuum. It comes, often enough, from not having gotten the means and education that should be available to everyone. And that there is more than a little classism associated with making fun of entire regions for this.
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also, when i see the racism, ignorance, and homophobia that find themselves on regular display in the south in my own beloved new england, then i'll lay off alabama. untill then... fuck the south. trash talking alabama? uh, alabama trashed itself, i'm just talking about it.
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Classism? I was a socialist for a number of years and wore a hammer and syth pin till the chinese annoyed me enough to make me stop.
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Why does it need to be on "regular display" to matter? Besides, even a cursory glance of, say, Massachusetts' recent history torpedoes the notion that this state is a cradle of racial harmony and a bastion of tolerance. (Saying nothing, of course, of western MA or parts of Vermont and New Hampshire.)
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"Not all whiet Obama voters aren't racists (remember "I'm voting for the nigger"?)"
I'll address the rest of your post later, as i am busy. I just wanted to say... do you happen to remember where the couple who said that lived? florida. thats right, the south... |
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Arrrgh Kate, I'm trying to be nice here but can you not see how this answer is completley missing the point? You were classifying white southern Obama voters as the racially sensitive "good guys" that the remaining southeners can be discarded against; my point is things don't work out that simple.
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well, to be truthful, i felt i was being generous to say anyone in the south was a good guy. i was trying to be conciliatory in hopes i'd sell my point better. use the n word, regardless of who you vote for, and i dislike you.
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I think that last bit is fair, but you're still assuming that everyone in the South is all about the lynchings and the racial slurs. Which isn't the case.
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wearwolf girl,
i think if you reread what i'd written above, you'd see that i made mention of the fact some people in the south, demographically, must not be racists. so yes, everyone in the south is not all about lynching. however..... everyone who is all about lynching? they're probably from the south. fair enough? |
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I'd agree that you can find more examples of racism in the history of the South, things just aren't so black and white. (terrible pun intended)
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Is New York the South? Oh, and love the signature. No harm in poking fun at Asian huh? And yeah, I know it's a quote from ABT2.
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