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post #1 of 16
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It's hard to express exactly what this thought is in my head. It's more like a feeling I get when watching certain movies, or reading certain books. I'm going to name a few works, and then try to explain:

The Dark Tower series
The Mist
The works of Cormac McCarthy (specifically No Country for Old Men and The Road)
The works of Samuel Beckett
The Phantasm series
Silent Hill

The biggest theme of the Dark Tower series, and this tends to permeate a lot of King's work, is that the "world has moved on." Like what few people are left behind are stuck in a kind of limbo. This is a different feeling than what is provoked by post-Apocalyptic works, such as The Road Warrior, when the world has been bruised and broken but people are still around bickering at one another.

In The Mist, it's not just that a hole has been ripped in the space/time continuum, it's like a chunk of the earth fell into another dimension. When the people in that supermarket gaze out into the mist, it feels like there's nothing gazing back.

Now I only saw the movie NCFOM, but I swear the cinematography made me feel like Josh Brolin was the last man on earth at times. I did read The Road, and the repetitiveness of the dialogue ("What would you do if I died?" "I would want to die myself." "Okay." "Okay.") as well as the emptiness of the landscape lent the whole thing an almost supernatural air.

If you've ever read Waiting for Godot, you know what I'm talking about. Vladimir and Estragon are stuck in this loop, like they're damned, and there's a building sense of tension and dread as the play progresses.

The same can be said of the Phantasm series. The first felt like, due to budgetary constraints, the story really only followed the leads and we saw little of the town itself. By the second one, however, it felt like Coscarelli was purposefully leaving out stock characters. Mike and Reggie leave a motel, gazing out onto the barren landscape as they hop in the car, no extras in the background. When the priest comes into the picture, he's alone and stays that way for the duration of his storyline. It's like the Tall Man has already been across the U.S. and no one noticed.

Finally, the Silent Hill series, games and movie, literally come right out and say the characters have gotten lost in another world. It's that hazy sense of being lost in a dream, that feeling you get when you're driving to work on a Sunday morning and the roads are EMPTY.

Does anyone understand what I'm trying to say? It's one thing when you're watching a slasher flick and you know if the characters could just get away from the island/summer camp/old house they would be fine. It's another when the writer/director makes you feel like there's no longer any world outside your immediate surrounding.
post #2 of 16
I know exactly what you're getting at... the "horror by desolation" vibe.

Reminds me of this thread, although your's is more focused on post-cataclysm or environments/cinematic worlds that give off that feeling.

Stuff like NEAR DARK and FROM DUSK TILL DAWN also give me that vibe (good call on S King). Our heroes enter an unforgiving world (like the desert, ghost town, remote wilderness location) and are outnumbered by hostiles. And in many of your examples, unnatural/supernatural causes are at work.

A great episode of the Twilight Zone and also the first...
Where is Everybody?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ausZYIn9jg

EDIT: I also couldn't help but feel like PHANTASM franchise was influenced by The Dark Tower series (or vice versa), and for the very vibe you're talking about.
post #3 of 16
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Thanks darkmites. Desolation is a good word for it. It's a feeling I get often when plays are adapted into movies and there is a minimal cast. For that reason slasher films often work like plays for me due to the limited space and archetypal characters. The Descent, also, with the limited cast and sets. I'm thinking 4th wall breaking here, with the stage itself being the entirety of the world.
post #4 of 16
I'm enjoying this thread. I haven't commented only because I'm trying to think of films that give you that vibe that you haven't already mentioned. I have actually never seen it, but from the descriptions friends have given me, "A Boy and His Dog", while maybe not strictly horror, probably gives one the desolation vibe.
post #5 of 16
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I read that other thread, DARKMITE, and although it's interesting it's not where I'm coming from. I'm thinking more of an isolation of the mind or spirit, which is then reflected in the landscape the hero is transversing.

Iggy, I had never heard of A Boy and his Dog but reading about it, it sounds chilling and probably what I'm talking about. I'm also reminded of Bradbury's There Will Come Soft Rains.

Basically it's the feeling the main character has of being completely alone, which is then confirmed by the end of the story. I haven't seen Moon yet, but from what I've heard (unfortunately, I've been spoiled), I think that fits the criteria.

Should this have been in the Movie Miscellany? Maybe, but I'm focusing mostly on the dread part, which is decidedly horror.
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by IggytheBorg View Post
I'm enjoying this thread. I haven't commented only because I'm trying to think of films that give you that vibe that you haven't already mentioned. I have actually never seen it, but from the descriptions friends have given me, "A Boy and His Dog", while maybe not strictly horror, probably gives one the desolation vibe.
I think that would work. It's not just about isolation of the body but the protagonist is pretty much an outsider in his head as well.

I think the original I Am Legend script would count.

Great thread!
post #7 of 16
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The script when Arnold Schwarzennegger was supposed to be in the lead?

I think a big part of this feeling is being confronted by infinity. Or maybe it's the absolute proof a higher power that exists, but is indifferent to the plight of man.

In King's case, with his Dark Tower metaverse, within the context of his books he was completely unaware that his characters actually existed. When Roland finally meets King in Song of Susannah, he's pretty pissed at King's ignorance.

This has gotten me thinking about works in which characters get to meet their maker. I'm thinking Neo meeting the Architect, Truman speaking to Christof in The Truman Show, or even Animal Man meeting Grant Morrison. Or even Angel finding out Earth was Wolfram & Hart's HQ.

The idea of time & space being uncontrollable is daunting.
post #8 of 16
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I think a big part of this feeling is being confronted by infinity.
Another example, albeit without the post-apocolyptic vibe, is The Incredible Shrinking Man. The protagonist finds himself forcefully isolated from the world around him as he diminishes until, finally, he is confronted by the reality of infinity (infinite shrinkage, if you will).
post #9 of 16
I AM LEGEND and ISM are great examples. You isolate the main character by making him a minority and/or changing his perspective. Not due to the elimination of others.

I'm also reminded of films where the main character is dead (ghost, etc) and can't easily communicate to the living. Good example, bad movie (and applicable title): THE INVISIBLE.
post #10 of 16
If we're going to go down that road, Day of the Dead fits the bill nicely. I remember being filled with a sense of hopeless dread at the prospect of the world being irreversibly overrun by zombies & a pitiful few ragtag human survivors clinging to a meagre, bare subsistence, & above all isolated existence. I'd argue that Night & Dawn (or any other zombie yarns taking place soon after the outbreak) still have some remnants of humanity left, even if it is just a marauding biker gang. David Moody's Autumn series seems to be taking this tack as well, although I've only read the 1st 2 books. An even better example in a book is Moody's Straight to You. The sun is dying, sending pulses of ever increasing heat and radiation to the earth. No running or hiding from that. No hope of fixing a problem that huge and fundamental. The sense of finality, of inevitability and realism in his depiction of the end of the world, is really depressing. Colored my mood darkly for days after I finished it.
post #11 of 16
Great thread. I'm a big fan of post-apocalyptic fiction, especially this aspect of it. What appeals to me is the struggle to stay alive in a completely dead world. Were it me, I'd probably just call it a day and either kill myself or let the elements take me. But more times than not, the characters in these stories/movies/etc are desperately fighting to either fix things or persevere. But for what? It's an interesting angle that really gets under my skin.

Stephen King's best short story is titled "Night Surf" (from the book Night Shift) and it's stunning. It's about a bunch of kids fucking around at the beach after "Captain Trips" destroys all of America. Really fantastic stuff that I think perfectly nails the genre.
post #12 of 16
In another context, I was reading some fiction recently which did an excellent job of illustrating how solitary confinement can ruin the mind. Some scoff at 'lifers', prisoners who dodge the needle or chair and live for decades in hygenic conditions, with access to cable tv, etc., and perhaps rightly so, but when it finally sinks in that you aren't going anywhere or are going to meet anyone...ever...it's shattering. I can only guess what that feels like, but it seems that death might be the more humane option.
post #13 of 16
I think I've mentioned it before, but the best zombie fic I've read is the novel 'Day By Day Armageddon', stripped-down prose free of figurative language, and the stronger for it. Sometimes less is more, and how the protagonist just focuses on the 'day by day' survival, without any pretensions or attempts at philosophical observations, just makes you want to get under the guy's skin even more.
post #14 of 16
It's not post apocalyptic, but for a sense of oppressive isolation and desolation, you can't go wrong with the opening scenes of Eraserhead.

Also, the work of Kiyoshi Kurosawa is especially evocative in this regard. The whole premise of Pulse/Kairo (fuck the remake) is that the internet age has left us isolated as individuals, bereft of direct human contact. His filmography is littered with portentous stark industrial landscapes.
post #15 of 16
The bottom of the ocean (LEVIATHAN), the vacuum of deep space (ALIEN) and the Arctic/Antarctic (THE THING) are prime environments to give off that the "horror by desolation" vibe, regardless of an apocalypse. As a matter of fact, you're so far separated from mankind in these cases, armageddon could have struck and you'd be the last to know. That's isolation.

post #16 of 16
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Thank you DARKMITE, you and I seemed to be tuned in here. The setting doesn't matter, although post-Apocalyptic landscapes do help. The problem with those, like the aforementioned Mad Max, is that people keep running into each other! The isolation that haunts me is from the first half of 28 Days Later, with the shots of empty highways and city streets, when the characters are not sure if the rest of the world has been overwhelmed.

What intrigues me is how when these characters are confronted by absolute unknown/infinity/the absence of God, they continue on out of habit or willpower. For another example, I quote Billy the Kid from Young Guns II:

'You remember the stories John use to tell us about the the three chinamen playing Fantan? This guy runs up to them and says, "Hey, the world's coming to an end!" and the first one says, "Well, I best go to the mission and pray," and the second one says, "Well, hell, I'm gonna go and buy me a case of Mezcal and six whores," and the third one says "Well, I'm gonna finish the game." I shall finish the game, Doc.'
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