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Smallville S9 Hotter than ever.

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http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/08/...eason-9-promo/

I abandoned this show last season but I will give it another chance. Before that, I will watch the finale soon. Lois looks great in that promo.
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I can't believe someone on CHUD watches Smallville.
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I got into Smallville sometime around season 5 and tried for a long time to justify its existence, but it's really just not a good show. The sets, the lighting, the costumes: everything looks so artificial. I really think the fanboys are only holding out at this point over some misguided hope that Clark will fly and/or wear the costume.

Durance, however, is a perfect Lois.
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During a very bizarre time, Smallville was the show everyone here watched while mocking how Supernatural looked. Good thing people realized what was up.
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Smallville is awesomeness personified. Looking forward to the next season, LOVE the costume and all the upcoming action.

Welling isn't as charismatic as the previous supermans but boy o boy did he nail the farmboy Clark, hopefully all the money he got to come back this season was invested in some acting classes so he can add something besides "concerned look" and "constipated". (seriously, those are the only two looks he has, he's like the Zoolander of of the CW).
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LOL on the Zoolander comparison. This show is at the end of the pile for me among all the stuff I watch on regular basis. The "hotter than ever" was all about Lois, :P .
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Wow, I guess since he was wearing red and blue like every day as Clark Kent the color scheme just would be a bit conspicuous as Superman. That costume is pretty lame though. Moving your best rated show to Friday is a real genius move though.
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I haven't watched it in a couple of seasons and I heard they really shit the bed with the doomsday plotline last season. This does look like it could be fun, so maybe I'll give it a look this season again.
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It's harmless. Often wildly entertaining one week and a complete pile of dung the next, I watch it mainly because I have a DVR. Smallville at 4AM when I'm not quite ready to pass out is a good match. It's like HEROES without all the people pretending it's really good.

I do think Smallville has a better cast than Superman Returns, though. Welling and Routh are mostly a wash, but Welling doesn't come off as a celebrity impersonator. Durance is pretty much perfect for Lois, while Bosworth was terribly miscast. Spacey is Spacey, but his Lex was really let down by the writing, while Rosenbaum played a much deeper version quite well. Egads, I think Smallville is better written than Superman Returns as well... and that's pathetic!
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42328

A JLA in its early stages TV show isn't half bad idea if it's done properly.
post #11 of 128
I always thought Smallville's biggest asset is Lex Luthor and even though its an overall mediocre show every once and a while they'll have pretty cool episodes. Sadly the filler episodes are terrible but its sadly still the best Superhero show on television (bits of Heroes Season 1 kicked its ass but then it just fell apart).
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Applying the word "overacting" to what the guy playing Zod is doing just makes the word seem insufficient.

This show made a huge mistake in not making Welling wear glasses from the beginning. Well, that's among the legion of huge mistakes. But that is one.
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but its sadly still the best Superhero show on television.
Batman: The Brave and the Bold is better than Smallville. Hands down.
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Batman: The Brave and the Bold is better than Smallville. Hands down.
I apologise I meant Live Action and presently, I haven't checked out Brave and Bold but I've heard its a fun retro kids show in the 60's tv series style right? Most animated superhero shows kick Smallville's ass easily,

Oh the subject of live action superhero shows, the 80's Hulk show proberly has that crown.
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The 70's TV incarnation of Spider-Man was a hoot also. The score featured just as much wokka-doo wokka-doo guitar as you'd expect.
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Actually, in the live action superhero series race, I'd probably go with The Flash, brief though its run was.
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Actually, in the live action superhero series race, I'd probably go with The Flash, brief though its run was.
Sure
post #18 of 128
Among other reasons. Although I preferred her on Max Headroom, another show that didn't get the run it deserved.
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Batman: The Brave and the Bold is better than Smallville. Hands down.
Sadly the women watch Smallville more, and this way I can get my nerdy thrills and get some Superman trash to watch.
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Actually, in the live action superhero series race, I'd probably go with The Flash, brief though its run was.
Seriously the race for best live-action superhero show on TV is between The Flash and Smallville?

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Okay I've got nothing. My Secret Identity maybe?

(Though you could probably count both Buffy and Angel as superhero shows now that I think about it.)
post #21 of 128
Does nobody remember Night Man (brought to you by the Plymouth Prowler)?
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The Greatest American Hero. COME ON!
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Anyone caught this? Any thoughts? I will watch it later...
post #24 of 128
It was surprisingly more satisfying than any other season premiere I saw this week. The addressed the finale last year and they made the rest of the season look interesting, especially by giving Clark (and us) a mystery to solve within a year. "Major" Zod is also not as bad as I thought it was going to be. All the Kandor Kryptonians are powerless right now and so Zod is being smacked around like a bitch.

Also, the super-suit worked out well and it's sort of hinted why Clark didn't want red and blue anymore. The scene between Chloe and Clark where she breaks down and yells at him to bring Jimmy back was good.

I dunno, the episode just worked for me.
post #25 of 128
I liked it, but the show has been going on forever. I did tivo it and watched it. Liked that the show has a clear purpose from the getgo, and I never fully hate an episode with Lois in it.
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Does nobody remember Night Man (brought to you by the Plymouth Prowler)?
Best part was that Manimal was in it.
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I've always wanted to see a YouTube compilation of all of the knockouts, but I guess a comprehensive list will have to do.
post #28 of 128
Surprisingly good year. Digging the hell out of pretty much everything and OMG Loved LOVED LOOOOVED Lois's thoughts. ClLOIS 4EVER!
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I've always wanted to see a YouTube compilation of all of the knockouts, but I guess a comprehensive list will have to do.
Neal Bailey deserves a reward for having the balls to keep watching this show and tell it like it is.
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I haven't watched it in a couple of seasons and I heard they really shit the bed with the doomsday plotline last season. This does look like it could be fun, so maybe I'll give it a look this season again.
This is, like, the third time in less than a week I've seen the phrase "shit the bed" used in the CHUD forums. Seriously.
post #31 of 128
Ratings are slowly increasing and I'm digging so far where the show is heading but it needs to end now. That or put Welling in the suit and let's put Brian singer to shame.
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I seriously doubt that anybody connected to Smallville has the talent to put anybody else to shame. Bryan Singer shan't be losing any sleep.
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I dunno. I like Smallville more than Superman Returns. That's not high praise, but still...

When you consider the difference in budgets and the extra hours of material the TV show has to produce each year, I'd say Singer should already be ashamed. He should have been able to top what is essentially a middling series.
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Gave up after the Phantom Zone storyline. What was that, four years back? Do they still blow up a pickup truck every week?
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I dunno. I like Smallville more than Superman Returns. That's not high praise, but still...

When you consider the difference in budgets and the extra hours of material the TV show has to produce each year, I'd say Singer should already be ashamed. He should have been able to top what is essentially a middling series.
Wow. That's completely insane.

Superman Returns has its problems, but Smallville at its best is a pleasantly diverting waste of time. There hasn't been a single moment on the show worth remembering alongside even the middling Superman projects. Superman III is a piece of crap, and even it has better sequences than anything Smallville has summoned up.

Plus, Superman Returns has the shuttle rescue. End of line.
post #36 of 128
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Wow. That's completely insane.

Superman Returns has its problems, but Smallville at its best is a pleasantly diverting waste of time. There hasn't been a single moment on the show worth remembering alongside even the middling Superman projects. Superman III is a piece of crap, and even it has better sequences than anything Smallville has summoned up.

Plus, Superman Returns has the shuttle rescue. End of line.
Absolutely.

The only thing that Smallville had on Superman Returns was Michael Rosebaum (and maybe MILF Annette O'Toole). Now that he's gone (and so is Ma Kent), the show has got nothing going for it in any extent.
post #37 of 128
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Plus, Superman Returns has the shuttle rescue. End of line.
I'm certainly not going to compare FX sequences, mainly because they have so little impact on my opinion of the project. Ya know who makes great FX? The Emerichs!

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Smallville at its best is a pleasantly diverting waste of time.
Sure, I'll agree with that.

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Superman Returns has its problems
C'mon, that's like saying Somalia has its problems...
post #38 of 128
Smallville has a better interpretation of Luthor. If I want to watch Hackman, I'll watch Hackman, not Kevin Spacy pretending to rehash his love of land. If I want to watch a good Reeves performance I'll watch "gasp" a movie with him in it.

Superman Returns was a fan film. It copied a great film, thus it has some awesome moments. It has some budget and it shows, like when Superman lifted a chunk of earth. I put the blame on Singer 100%. He made 2 good movies, I'm starting to think he was a fluke. He always mention what he WAS going to do with the sequel, well he fucked that up pretty bad. "let me tell my issues story first, then we'll have the action film"

Smallville Lois is way better than Blog about my boyfriend leaving me Lois. Oh and while Clark isn't superman yet, he at least fought people that were an actual threat. Damn, Welling also doesn't look like a teenager in tights.

I agree Smallville shit the bed a while back, but they had Lex Luthor meeting Clark sans glasses from episode I, so I'm going to go on a little faith that have something planned, and it'll probably apply to Lois as well.

edit: I'd love to see Micheal Bay and Bryan Singer team up. If one could balance the other, you would have an actual film maker. One part knowing what the audience wants + one part knowing how to write a story = Chris Nolan (yeah I went there)
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I'm certainly not going to compare FX sequences, mainly because they have so little impact on my opinion of the project. Ya know who makes great FX? The Emerichs!
I'm not talking about expensive effects, Einstein, I'm talking about an effective, exciting action sequence. Smallville has never had one. Ever. You don't need a 200 million dollar budget to create an exciting action sequence. See Battlestar Galactica.
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I'm not talking about expensive effects, Einstein, I'm talking about an effective, exciting action sequence.
When a big action sequence has no one or thing I care about in it, I find it hard to call it effective.

If I were grading solely on the technical proficiency of their action scenes, Superman Returns would win. It'd also win if I graded on how creepy a stalker they made the Man of Steel (and that's considering Smallville had a guy with super vision using a telescope to spy on a girl for years). But neither grade seems all that important.

Argh, I'm defending Smallville... how did I end up in Bizarro land?!?
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Actually, in the live action superhero series race, I'd probably go with The Flash, brief though its run was.
1. Batman '66
2. George Reeves Beats Up Vaguely Ethnic Mobsters Every Week
3. The Flash
4. Mantis/Manimal (tie)

Haven't watched Smallville in 7 years. What'd I miss?
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Haven't watched Smallville in 7 years. What'd I miss?
Allison Mack's career.
post #43 of 128
Well, there was that one season where 75% of the episodes were "Kryptonite mutant of the week". And then there was that other season where 75% of the episodes were "Kryptonite mutant of the week".

And then Rosenbaum left, and things took a turn.
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Yeah pretty much the first season.
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Re Phil:

[COLOR="Random" ] Kriptonite [/COLOR] appears, everyone is acting out of their minds, blackout, hospital scene, Milf Ma's cookies, Lana smiling, brief glimpse of said ass*...credits.

*Lately replaced by Lois's breasts or ass.
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I dunno, I'm actually enjoying this season. The last episode was a lot of fun, despite not having much villainy to speak of. The character stuff was enjoyable; Durance is even able to pull good performances out of Welling in their scenes together! That's a nice improvement over the Lana seasons when their scenes often were indistinguishable from two RealDolls stood next to each other with voiceovers added.

Seeing Superman decidedly un-super as a morning host was amusing. The girls really carried the ep though, all of them had good arcs to follow. Zod having his soldier's bloody dog tag dropped off by a bruised and battered Tess was a great reveal.

Also of note: they one-upped Superman Returns' bullet-to-the-eye scene. I found Superman pinching a bullet an inch away from going Gallagher on Green Arrow's melon to be far more effective.

Of course, this is about the longest the show has ever gone without a period of complete suckitude, so I'm bracing for something horrific yet to come...
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Of course, this is about the longest the show has ever gone without a period of complete suckitude, so I'm bracing for something horrific yet to come...
I'd look no further then next week...or that upcoming Wonder Twins ep.
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I gotta admit this one scene was pretty badass.
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A rant, if I may:

This is truly one of the weirdest relationships I've ever had with a television show. I honestly cannot remember the last time I thought this was a good program, but I know I won't quit watching. Unlike any other show, Smallville is an endurance test. I've been there since the beginning and I'll be there for the end. Which, god willing, will be the end of this season.

I won't deny it, I dug this show in its early seasons. Bear in mind, I was also 13 when it started - my taste was more than questionable. For a good few years, I was truly engrossed by it, looking forward to it every week. But even then I figured this show, by it's very nature and title, had an expiration date, a set longevity. But the creators just never acknowledged it. It just kept going and going, and the flaws just got bigger and more noticeable.

In order to save my sanity, I won't go into everything that irritates me about the show, but I think its biggest problem is a bad case of tunnel vision (with a dash of astigmatism for good measure), particularly in regard to characters. Series mainstays and DC Comics guest stars pop in and out of the show at random, but are only ever relevant for the episode at hand. Is anything going to be mentioned of Supergirl again? Did Martian Manhunter overdose at an Oreo factory somewhere? What's Ma Kent up to in the senate? Hell, Lana's going around saving the world with all of Clark's superpowers but we never hear a damn thing about it. Even some slight nods to any sort of impact these characters have had would be nice. They might make an appearance again down the line, but it'll only be for an episode and then it's back into the ether. My personal favorite was Clark's crazy teleporting girlfriend Alicia who, besides having actual screen chemistry with Tom Welling - a rare gift, that - provided perhaps the only truly shocking moment in show history. She got hanged! In the middle of an episode! It was crazy! And Clark was torn to pieces about it...until the next week. And they never thought of her again.

Perhaps most egregious is the attemps to keep the name of the show relevant by setting a handful of scenes per ep back in the titular town. Never mind that it was established early on in the show that Metropolis is about a 3 hour drive from Smallville, nobody seems to mind driving back and forth multiple times per episode. I remember watching an ep where Clark called Chloe, who was in Metropolis, and asked her to come meet him at the farm ASAP and thinking about what a dick move that was when he could run to her in about five minutes.

The thing is, for all the bad, there has been some good. Smallville has a charm, I won't deny it. There has to be something dragging me back week after week. More often than not, it's the human antagonist for lack of a better word. The Luthors, and now Tess, are the most compelling characters the show has had. Often the highlight of any Smallville episode was the bitter back and forth between Lionel and Lex. With both gone, I've found Tess to be a suitable replacement. She's complex, for Smallville anyway, and does a good job of being suitably formidable. She's not just talk.

I've actually been liking the stuff with Zod this season. Callum Blue does good work and the Kandorian plot has made for interesting viewing. This last episode in particular was quite good really. I mean, it had the star of Warlock in it, so there was never any doubt it would be awesome. Highlight, though, was definitely Tess getting roughed up by Clark and appearing both frightened and totally turned on. Good stuff.

So of course next week is the Wonder Twins. You stay classy, Smallville...
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