Fringe Season 2

Yeah, do I watch FRINGE the next day online, or the NBC comedies I'd normally be checking out?

Seriously, I do like the show. More Nimoy, please.

Ahhh, finally real shows are coming back. I'm excited to see where they take Fringe this season. Maybe Peter will start being useful again.

I seriously hope they change the commercial format, no more Fringe Returning in 60/90 seconds etc.

Why?

Thanks for the heads up. I would n't have known this was returning otherwise. I seriously have seen no ads for this at all and I watch a lot of TV.

So, FRINGE is on against SUPERNATURAL? Whose genius idea was that? Next thing you know, LOST will be on Thursdays at 9 too.

Excited.

This show got better after its awful, awful pilot?

It became a fantastic show after they figured out what they were doing.

I wouldn't call it 'fantastic' but it's generally entertaining.

The show is kind of amazing, depsite the actors, the plot, the music, the directing...

The effects are nice. But that blonde woman cannot be serious about her acting skills. Nobody is that monotonous and boring. And Pacey is just a grating idiot.

John Noble as Walter is GREAT.

FlashForward isn't a J.J. Abrams show, is it?

It's a David Goyer show actually.

I can't wait. The ballsy and exciting way they ended Season 1 was fantastic.

SPOILERS ALLOWED FROM HERE ON OUT SINCE THE SHOW IS IN THE NEW SEASON


LAST WARNING

- I still think Walter from the other world is the main bad guy and coming back for his kidnapped son.
- My biggest concern is how they will keep the show "grounded". Now that the Feebs know that there is an alternate universe, how to travel between it, etc. how does the US Govt not get involved now and take over due to the security crisis this represents?
- I want to see more monster of the week episodes. Love the wolfman thingy who took out the airplane.

I'm interested to see what happens now... isn't like half the cast gone? Just Walter, Peter and the FBI chick left?

It's opposite Supernatural so you know... this won't be watched live but it might get done before the Weekend.

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It's reasonably entertaining but Olivia is a bland second-rate Sydney Bristow. And Lance Reddick is wasted on it.

I still believe the show has potential to become great, but the first season was a barrel of bad acting, nonsensical plotpoints and missed opportunities.

John Nobles IS great though.

Yeah the first Season is sporadically great, and to be honest it takes waaaay too long for the show to even approach something called "Good". At least we can look forward to more fun times with Olivia and her formerly dead lover who's now alive in this other dimension and whom Olivia will have a 'connection' with.

I'm sorry to hear that this is on Thursdays at 9.

Looks like I'll have to catch up to the show when it hits DVD - Supernatural remains my gleefully-pulpy appointment television show for that hour.

Well, last season finished strong, so I'm starting from there, but if it falls back to what it was at first I'll stop watching within a couple of episodes. It took half a season to get good, and I kept watching out of Noble's performance.

Thursday nights are never "live watch" nights for me, so this gets added to shows that I'll watch when I have time on the weekend.

I hope this year we get an episode with Lance Reddick's character and Walter working side by side throughout an entire episode.

Also, I wonder if alternate reality Walter has all of his marbles and is super evil, the complete opposite of *our* Walter...

Duuuude... feel free to join the rest of us in the 21st century and get a DVR!

If I lost my DVR somehow, I wouldn't watch -any- TV shows... it'd just be excruciating.

Same here. I can't imagine watching TV shows when they're actually on anymore.

Haha...you kids get off my lawn!

I own a DVR, but I only use it to record shows when I'm out of the house. I've got enough in my life as it is without adding more television to my schedule.

And I really enjoy watching both Lost and Supernatural when they air. Especially Lost, given how much talk gets stirred up in here after every episode.

Here's the thing, with a DVR you just start 15 minutes into the episode and then fast forward through commercials. Still saves you 15 minutes.

The only things I'll watch 'live' anymore are sports and the commercials in them are torture.

EW article on Fringe

The magazine has a more detailed spread with some pretty good minor spoilers about what we'll see in Season 2. It also spends a good chunk of time talking about how the producers/writers weren't sure what they were doing the first half of the season and it was Oscar-winning screenwriter Akiva Goldsmith (A Beautiful Mind) and producer Bryan Burk that switched up the show, telling JJ and co. to "get on with it already!". Supposedly the alternate dimension stuff was originally slated to be drawn out for several season. Gah! Glad that's changed. Also, they said they've finally figured out a role for Pacey, so hopefully he'll stop being The Quippy Guy Who Explains Everything to the Audience. They are going to keep with the alternating between mythology and monster-of-the-week stuff, and Broyles will get a back story episode. Agent Francis' role was rumored to be cut. The mag says he'll be back, but the season premiere will bring a "very radical change for the fan fave".

I do 20, just to be safe.

Umm, your logic seems a bit flawed. Whether you watch shows live, 20 minutes later and fast forward so they end live but you get 20 minutes of your life back, or days later... none of those options forces you to watch more TV.

Plus, I know I can find other stuff to do at say, 9pm. However, when I'm awake at 3am some morning? TV looks mighty attractive then!

My favorite things with the DVR are that I no longer have to memorize the TV schedule, balance other things w/ when my favorite shows air, or give a damn whether they move a show or air it twice in a week or anything else. Heck, I don't even know when most shows I watch start this year. It'll be a nice surprise!

Having the option to watch Supernatural while simultaneously recording Fringe, the Office and 30 Rock every week wouldn't force me to watch more, but it'd load the plate up with more options than I have time for in my life at present.

I enjoy my appointment television twice a week, commercials and all (because they're paying for the shows I really love and because I enjoy the ritual), and I watch everything else when it suits me.

That's what crotchety old people do.

Maybe I'll give this show another shot if, in years to come, there's some big lull where I've caught up on all the series I've been watching, and there's nothing great coming out.


I was just so turned off by everything in those first three episodes (well, not everything. Just thought it was a pretty half-assed show), that I can't give myself over to trying again.

If you really were a crotchety old person you could free up time by cutting out Law & Order reruns, Murder She Wrote reruns and MASH reruns.



I say if you have free time watch it on hulu or wait for the inevitable move to another night once the ratings tank. I have two DVR's to bypass shit like this but I also usually keep shows like the office, bones, monk and house recorded for the winter break or summer break.

They'll pry my Murder She Wrote reruns from my cold dead hands. Long live Matlock!

All good suggestions. Thanks, Snaieke.

I can't imagine how The Office is appointment TV. If it doesn't conflict with anything, I watch. But mostly I catch up with it via reruns or Netflix. Sci-fi shows in particular are more fun when you can dissect and discuss each week's ep as they air.

Yeah, the comedy series can wait until the next day for me, and they all air on their respective websites in HD anyway, also with minimal ads. I'd rather see the sci-fi stuff on my big screen the night it airs. I have a dvr, but it's not HD, so I rarely use it.


There are plenty of options for tv viewing these days, dvr is just one of them.

spoiler? I don't know if the writer is speculating regarding Peter's background.

Loved Olivia's entrance. Not sure about the new female FBI agent but it should be ineresting how they have 2 women working together. Hope they don't go for bitchyness between the two.

Glad they are gong back to Spock next week.

I love that they managed to bring Agent Francis back and probably piss of everyone who wanted him back simultaneously.

Well, the two overt references to the X-Files certainly seem to imply that they think of themselves as the "spiritual successor" to Sculder and Mully.

I loved it, but I'm hardly objective. Some series hit your weak spots, and this one does it for me. Can't wait for more.

I was very let down by this episode. It was okay when I watched it, but after the final scene...I sat back and thought about it. I came to the conclusion that this episode sucked balls. I mean it sucks balls as a season opener, but even if it was an episode from last season I would've called it a filler episode. It's weird because it's SO GOOD to see these characters again, but at the same time it's like they hired some hack writer to do it.

It might get slightly spoilery, but I've spared the majority of the details so it won't make as much sense if you haven't seen the episode.

First off, if you're looking for any answers or further expansions of ideas from the season finale, it's not there. It robs you of the confrontation at the end of the finale as well. If you're looking for some Olivia action, not there. There's not a lot of action in the episode and it doesn't ring the season in with a bang. There's an entire subplot about Walter making custard for Peter's birthday and Peter saying he doesn't like custard though Walter claims he did when he was a kid (prob the other one though). So throughout the episode Walter will talk about the custard and making the custard. Then, finally, at the end of the episode they surprise Peter with the custard. He smiles. The end. Does he try the custard? Does he discover that shit's delicious? WHO KNOWS! They cut it the fuck out! How can you leave that shit hanging?!

If you're not already slightly pissed at this point by all this, the writers see fit to fuck you again with most horribly absurd leap in logic that I have ever seen. It literally makes no sense. It's the big reveal at the end of the episode. You sorta saw it coming but the logic in you was going "OH wait, that's not possible though". Well it fucks your logic. Somehow this dude is not only a fucking genius, but he's also the Flash. He somehow had enough foresight to stash a body in just the RIGHT spot. He doesn't leave it in a closet like a normal killer (or leave it in plain sight like he's done previously throughout the episode). NO, he drags the corpse through a hospital full of people and into the basement and leaves it next to the furnace for the hell of it. Then I call him the Flash because the device he uses took at least a minute when he used it earlier in the episode, but now in a span of 30 seconds he's able to use the device, change clothes on two bodies, AND move the bodies. It takes me close to a minute to undress and redress when i'm in a hurry, so how the fuck....GAH...

Someone tell me how it makes sense. Pleeeaase.

I'm just glad next week will actually address the finale.

Also, the government is looking for "tangible results?" Don't they already have a lab full of crazy mind helmets and stuff?

Great episode with a very predictable twist at the end.

You're taking TV-time too literally as real world-time. TV is cut up. It's bits spliced together. It might be 30 seconds on screen, but it's just as easy to assume they were running around looking for Charlie after the gunshots for a couple of minutes. It's just that people running around looking for someone isn't that enthralling by itself, so we don't see it. Suspension of disbelief, my friend. Turn off the hyper-logic sensitive centre of your brain, especially on Fringe.

Boring episode. Only liked Olivia sudden appearance and Peter manning up. Looks like they are setting him up in the traditional Team Leader role.