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post #551 of 593
If Fringe can keep this up it'll go a long way towards filling the void that Lost winding down is gonna leave. But that's just me. I've probably babbled something about it before, but even in weaker Fringe episodes we ususally get some pretty strong character beats that still make it worthwhile, but when the show is on point and on fire, it is GREAT!
post #552 of 593
I find it kind of hard to see walternate as the bad guy here. Our walter opened a gate and stole a child causing a lindberg baby case there. The gate goes on to destroy large parts of the world and kill and encase thousands of people.

What's happened to our world besides a few fringe events that anyone barely noticed? I hope walternate kills us all! They could even leave our heroes over there as they try to deal with their dimension being destroyed.

Also, I can't help, but root for other Olivianate, especially during that fight between herselves. She's just much more easier to like than our Olivia.
post #553 of 593
Every time I watch this show I keep thinking that Olivia was meant to be played by Laura Prepon.

As for 'Walternate' not being the bad guy, he was still going to kill 6 billion people (plus, you know, the whole rest of the alternate universe) just so that his world suffered a bit less.
post #554 of 593
What's one less dimension among infinity?
post #555 of 593
Are there any good Fring fansites out there? One that would have all the screengrabs?
post #556 of 593
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Originally Posted by Imperator GAC
What's one less dimension among infinity?
What indication has the show given that there aren't just TWO universes total? Maybe I didn't watch carefully enough but I was under the impression that its premise is that there are just the two (at least at the moment).
post #557 of 593
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Are there any good Fring fansites out there? One that would have all the screengrabs?
Well, there's this.
post #558 of 593
Great sign-off for Nimoy (with a nice tip of the hat to Wrath of Kahn at the end). I was fully expecting some very minimal talk-scenes, but instead we got a full adventure plus "The 77". Very cool.

Alternate Earth was lots of fun. The Comicbook covers were a nice touch for the geekier audience members.

I love the dual Walters. John Noble is so awesome, one character isn't enough to contain him. Really interesting territory staked out for next season regarding his decision to reduce his own dark potential in our world and seemingly embrace it in theirs.

Kinda hungry for red licorice now...

Cheers
post #559 of 593
The Alternaverse comic covers next to their real-world counterparts. Seeing them side by side I'm kind of disappointed that they didn't try to mimic the inking and colouring styles of the originals, though I suppose there's an argument to be made that they would have been doing that digitally in those periods in the Alternaverse, considering how much more advanced their computer technology is.
post #560 of 593
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Originally Posted by Imperator GAC View Post
I find it kind of hard to see walternate as the bad guy here. Our walter opened a gate and stole a child causing a lindberg baby case there. The gate goes on to destroy large parts of the world and kill and encase thousands of people.
Both Walters are dangerous because they have no limits to what they would do. We saw what a dick Walter could be when he got parts of his brain back. Our Walter had the benefit of William Bell to keep him somewhat in check. After our Walter opened the door Bell(I assume) was able to tell Walter the consequences of hi actions and help Walter come to the conclusion that he needed to take those memories of how to get to the altverse out of his brain.

Walternate had no check after his son was taken. So his nastness, ego, and need for revenge went unchecked. Our Walter was willing to test on children even with Bell.
post #561 of 593
That's true. Walters obsessive drive is the real danger. No matter what dimension he's from.

And yes, I think they only know about the 2 dimensions. For now.
post #562 of 593
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And yes, I think they only know about the 2 dimensions. For now.
While it could change I believe the creators said there would be just the 2 universes.
post #563 of 593
That was totally awesome. The switch was predictable, but it worked. I'm totally excited for next season and hope they can sustain the momentum.
post #564 of 593
Great finale. The two main things that will keep me interested are Bell lines about Walter missing pieces and the brief nod at ancient tech { I could have bet it was a Bell's design :'( }
It would be great if Olivia escapes thanks to her cortexiphan skills.
post #565 of 593
Great few episodes here. The last month of Fringe really drove home the idea that it is best when it deals in its mythology; the Monster of the Week procedurals just don't hold water with the mythology episodes that deal with character while exploring the larger questions about science and ethics.

I'm glad that the alt-Universe characters aren't your typically 2D bad guys. Everyone in this show is a shade of gray, including the characters from our universe. Maybe eventually they'll come to some sort of understanding and work together to save both universes...but probably not. It'd be a shame to lose alt-universe with its Zeppelins and shapeshifters, its freaky typewriters and Kentucky Grilled Chicken (hey, wait!).
post #566 of 593
I know Joshua Jackson gets some hate (Or indifference). But he had two fantastic moments in the finale. One where he mentions the Lindburgh baby and follows it with an utterly lost look when he realises that he's out of his depth, and the sigh of resignation in his voice when he realises the machine is attuned to him.

I wonder how long it is before Peter realises it's not the right Olivia (Notice where he says she's a "Little darker around the eyes" - A moment that I thought would come back at the end).

To that note, the episode had an odd ending. When Peter says he's going for a walk I assumed that he was going to see Olivia and realise that it wasn't her then CUT TO BLACK. It seemed like maybe there were a few moments chopped out.

Also, though I'm loathe to say it, but well done Akiva Goldsman. He's directed some of the best Fringe episodes to date (Even more impressive considering he's never directed anything before this show).
post #567 of 593
Fun finale. I know this show is not afraid to look pulpier (word?) than LOST but even the Olivia A/B catfight went to a place that only the most genre-friendly shows dare to tread. Speaking of which, the Olivia A imprisoned scene reminded me of Angel season 4 finale a bit. I know it isn't a fair comparison, but knowing that we're so not done with the B-universe plot thread made me smile.
post #568 of 593
Fringe ended the season really strong.

But alternate Olivia's cover is going to be blown the moment Peter decides to make a booty call.
post #569 of 593
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Fringe ended the season really strong.

But alternate Olivia's cover is going to be blown the moment Peter decides to make a booty call.
Why? The tattoo could ruin her cover but that's all.
post #570 of 593
Because Alt-Olivia would never sleep with him.
post #571 of 593
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Because Alt-Olivia would never sleep with him.
Something tells me that Alt-Olivia would do whatever it takes to gain Fringe Division's trust. The key here is that Alt-Olivia doesn't know about Olivia's last minute confession to Peter.
post #572 of 593
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Something tells me that Alt-Olivia would do whatever it takes to gain Fringe Division's trust. The key here is that Alt-Olivia doesn't know about Olivia's last minute confession to Peter.
No, but she already guessed that Peter and Olivia had feelings for each other. I personally don't think she would go through with it. She'd make up some excuse to get out of it.
post #573 of 593
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Because Alt-Olivia would never sleep with him.
On the other hand, if she did go through with it, Peter might become suspicious because Alt-Olivia seems like she'd be a lot less boring in bed than Original-Olivia... Not that he'd know for sure, though.
post #574 of 593
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The key here is that Alt-Olivia doesn't know about Olivia's last minute confession to Peter.
That's it. After her confession Peter will probably expect a greater degree of intimacy from her than what alt Olivia would logically display. You can't bluff through personal history with someone, especially if there are romantic feelings involved.

We'll see in next season anyway.
post #575 of 593
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No, but she already guessed that Peter and Olivia had feelings for each other. I personally don't think she would go through with it. She'd make up some excuse to get out of it.
I know we're just speculating but there is a difference between sensing a mutual attraction, and being in a mindset where it is natural to get intimate at a moment's notice. I'm just hoping its a subtle thing that tips off Peter like a barely register surprise to Peter's advances (or a "post-coital, letting your guard down, slip-up" thing), not something as obvious as Olivia pulling away from him in disgust. That would just make Alt-Olivia a terrible double agent.
post #576 of 593
I just came here to say that I will subscribe to any fanfiction on Fringe coming from Pop Zeus. I want some chapter dedicated to Astrix' and her way to lose her extra weight.
post #577 of 593
Oh god. I totally went there, didn't i?
post #578 of 593
I don't think it'll be sexy time that gets Olivia2 caught. It'll probably be simple stuff she should know like the Lindenberg baby or coffee or something.
post #579 of 593
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Originally Posted by Teitr Styrr View Post
I don't think it'll be sexy time that gets Olivia2 caught. It'll probably be simple stuff she should know like the Lindenberg baby or coffee or something.
They shouldn't drag it out for mre than a couple episodes. It should be fairly easy to tell she doesn't belong.
post #580 of 593
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
They shouldn't drag it out for mre than a couple episodes. It should be fairly easy to tell she doesn't belong.
Agree. There are just too many pitfalls for alt-Olivia to pull off a long con. The real question is what exactly is she being sent to gather? Info, items, or is she tasked with killing the major Fringe players on this side? I also imagine Walternate wants his son back, for multiple reasons, and alt-Olivia will likely be the one to do it. But if they didn't want Peter leaving in the first place, alt-Olivia and crew could probably just as easily have stopped their return as they did planting an agent in their midst. And something tells me alt-Olivia might grow a little sympathetic to our world's players; hopefully she'll have some interesting interactions with her sister and niece in this world.
post #581 of 593
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Originally Posted by Teitr Styrr View Post
I don't think it'll be sexy time that gets Olivia2 caught. It'll probably be simple stuff she should know like the Lindenberg baby or coffee or something.
Totally. This show will drag out the Oliva/Peter attraction for as long as possible. No way they are going have them hook up immediately.

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Agree. There are just too many pitfalls for alt-Olivia to pull off a long con. The real question is what exactly is she being sent to gather? Info, items, or is she tasked with killing the major Fringe players on this side? I also imagine Walternate wants his son back, for multiple reasons, and alt-Olivia will likely be the one to do it. But if they didn't want Peter leaving in the first place, alt-Olivia and crew could probably just as easily have stopped their return as they did planting an agent in their midst. And something tells me alt-Olivia might grow a little sympathetic to our world's players; hopefully she'll have some interesting interactions with her sister and niece in this world.
Yeah, I can't figure out what she's there to do. I'm assuming gathering intel on Earth's 1 advanced technology regarding traveling between the universes. Or maybe killing Walter.

And what's the deal with Newton? Is he still around now that he accomplished his goal of bringing Walternate over from the other side?

Bell creating the shape shifters was an interesting reveal.
post #582 of 593
My thought with alt-Olivia coming over here is that I get the feeling that the whole thing had been in the planning for a while since it seems a little too ridiculous to believe that Walternate was able to tell her everything she needs to know to contact HQ, and whatever else, in the couple of minutes before she switched off with Olivia.
post #583 of 593
The typewriter thing is troublesome. Maybe she contacted someone from the other universe (in our universe) to learn how to use it. Or she is better equipped to blend in our universe than I originally thought.
post #584 of 593
Why is the typewriter instructions troublesome? All Walternate had to do was tell her to go to the typewriter shop on Blah Blah Street, ask for the Blah Blah typewriter, and start typing up her report. She's a highly trained agent so those particular instructions would be easy to follow. The hard part that she had no time to prepare for will be blending in.
post #585 of 593
That's true enough I suppose. Walernate could have been yacking in her ear the entire time they were getting ready to universe hop.
post #586 of 593
Queen Doppelpopalous could just as easily be one of those shapeshifters for all we know... but I think it's much more interesting if she is Olivialternate.

One thing I found cute was how after the two Olivias faught each other, they didn't seem to have any marks on their faces despite pounding on them during their battle.
post #587 of 593
Good finale. Although I wish Lance Reddick had more to to do. He's good, but he's wasted.

It looks like Olivia will be stuck in the alt-verse for a while. EW reports they are looking for some one to play alt-Olivia's mother for 4 episodes.
post #588 of 593
Finished Altered States last night and damn was Blair Brown insanely hot back in the day.
post #589 of 593
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Good finale. Although I wish Lance Reddick had more to to do. He's good, but he's wasted.
While I generally enjoy Fringe, this has been true since episode #1. Glad that Reddick's working regularly, but Broyles could have been played by any of dozens of actors.
post #590 of 593
Yeah seriously, I thought this season we would have a few Broyles centric episodes... I hope the writers incorporate him more in the show next season. It sucks for them to waste Reddick like this. I would love to see him interact more with Walter.
post #591 of 593
Make-up or stylist department you want to blow with a bomb: the Fringe one.

Just check Anna right here.
post #592 of 593
I guess Olivia Dunham doesn't have much to be happy about, but she comes off in that interview quite a bit better.
post #593 of 593
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