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post #51 of 861
9/25/09 at 8:57pm
The cheese tray was great. The cold open was amazing. The rest was so so. I can't believe Wallace would trust Michael's judgment on anything at this point.
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post #52 of 861
9/26/09 at 12:47am
Michael used to be a lovable jerk... this season he's just a jerk.

I'm not complaining, mind. He's getting closer to David Brent every episode.
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post #53 of 861
9/30/09 at 3:21pm
http://www.halpertbeesly.com/
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post #54 of 861
9/30/09 at 3:28pm
I don't know why, but there's something kinda creepy about that.

As for lovable jerk Michael... he's been simply a jerk for a long time for me. LONG time. Since at least the iPod video Christmas episode. I wouldn't even care about what a jerk he is except for the fact that the show needs to constantly apologize for it. David Brent didn't need to be 'redeemed' in every episode. They saved that for the end. Larry David certainly doesn't, and I hope they never do. That's the biggest difference.
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post #55 of 861
9/30/09 at 3:31pm
Exactly. I liked David Brent. He came off more as a loser than a jerk. Michael Scott is just an awful human being.
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post #56 of 861
9/30/09 at 3:40pm
i used to work weddings, and that site is hilariously on point
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post #57 of 861
9/30/09 at 3:42pm
Definitely. I think that's why it creeps me out.
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post #58 of 861
9/30/09 at 3:50pm
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
I wouldn't even care about what a jerk he is except for the fact that the show needs to constantly apologize for it.
Yeah, it seems every time Michael goes overboard (what's it, like three times a week at least?), they have to remind us that really he's just a poor widdle emotionally stunted man-child and, gee, he just can't help himself. Just making him a good salesman doesn't make up for the fact that he seriously could use a good punch in the face.
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post #59 of 861
9/30/09 at 5:26pm
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
Definitely. I think that's why it creeps me out.
Dave and I were talking about this last night when we saw this promo on NBC. I'm pretty sure that it's the promo department that's gotten out of hand over-romanticizing and over-hyping this. I expect that the show will devote the hour it has set aside for the wedding to driving as many holes as it can in the whole hearts-and-flowers, perfect perfect perfect thing. At least I hope it will, anyway.
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post #60 of 861
9/30/09 at 5:32pm
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I'm pretty sure that it's the promo department that's gotten out of hand over-romanticizing and over-hyping this.
Of course! Who else is there besides NBC promotion that can save this traaaaaain-wreck of a show!? No one, that's who!

I'm sure the show will handle their wedding just fine. They've handled everything else pretty well so far.

If it were completely up to the promo department to get me interested in a show, I'd hate everything.
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post #61 of 861
10/1/09 at 10:52pm
Thread Starter 
Jim is starting to "get" Michael with this position. Interesting.
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post #62 of 861
10/1/09 at 11:31pm
Theyre on a roll so far this season.
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post #63 of 861
10/1/09 at 11:59pm
The discussion about the planet meeting was fantastic.

I know the show isn't usually too concerned with episode-to-episode continuity but it would be interesting to see the raise situation carry over. I'm sure next week will be a big interruption since it's the wedding episode.
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post #64 of 861
10/2/09 at 2:10am
Pam's face when she showed off the check made out to "Mrs. Pam Halpert" was the most adorable thing ever.
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post #65 of 861
10/2/09 at 2:29am
The Office is 3 for 3 this year. The Jim/Michael scenes were delightful squirm-inducing gold. Here's hoping the wedding episode won't throw them off too badly.
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post #66 of 861
10/2/09 at 2:36am
More Creed gold with both his interaction with Meredith and him agreeing that it was him talking instead of Dwight in the group shot.
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post #67 of 861
10/2/09 at 9:23am
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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post
Jim is starting to "get" Michael with this position. Interesting.
They've hinted at this in a previous season with the way Jim handled the multiple birthdays. It was one of those moments where suddenly Michael shows how 'wise' he truly is. I liked the moment, though I still think it breaks Michael out of the jackass character he truly is.

But this was similar and I think it's one of the more effective ways of making Michael sympathetic. I still don't get why the other characters don't strangle him to death in any of the other scenes though. Haha
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post #68 of 861
10/2/09 at 5:08pm
It makes Michael still sympathetic, because it proves that everyone in the office is a huge baby, but he's still a jackass. Maybe before he was in management he was just a dorky guy with a lame sense of humor, but being manager as long as he's been has molded him into a complete jackass. Just because he "understands" what makes these people tick doesn't mean he isn't an a-hole. You just understand a little bit more why he is. And, yeah, they should want to murder him every day, but I think you still go to jail for that. There are times that it would be justifiable homicide, though...

Not a great hilarious episode, but a good character one. The bit with the mugs at the end was great.

And Kevin's constant, "What does a bean mean!?" was damn funny, the more insistent it got. And Michael's drawing of Toby.
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post #69 of 861
10/2/09 at 5:16pm
Definitely. As I said, this is one of those moments where it works for me despite the fact that I still find it a bit of a cheat. Because it seems more like an explanation as opposed to the usual 'arrested development apology.'

And as the rest of the cast of the office gets wackier and wackier, I come to the conclusion, "Yes... these people all deserve each other."

Loved Michael's drawing of Toby. It actually looked a LOT like him!
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post #70 of 861
10/2/09 at 5:38pm
Thread Starter 
I've known some Michael Scott-types in the workforce. Genuinely good-hearted people...just fucking morons. Always seen the other characters as going, "Well...that's Michael for ya! What else did I expect?" and just moving on. That's why I've never hated his character. But as you said mcnooj82, the majority of the cast are nut-jobs anyway.

But I'd be interested to see how much of the Michael we've known since the pilot was there from the start. Did being promoted to manager and the pressures of said job make him...him. If that makes any sense.

And....did I spot Kevin wearing a wig in the promo for next week's wedding episode...?
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post #71 of 861
10/2/09 at 7:24pm
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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post
And....did I spot Kevin wearing a wig in the promo for next week's wedding episode...?
Yes. Yes you did. It looked glorious.
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post #72 of 861
10/3/09 at 8:49am
So what exactly was so bad about dividing up the raise money equally?
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post #73 of 861
10/3/09 at 10:03am
1.5% would probably equate to anywhere from 300 to 500 dollars a year, which isn't terrible (hey, a raise is a raise), but is probably less than what people were accustomed to getting for the normal cost of living increase.

I'm terrified that during a commercial break I said "Why don't the just do a merit based raise", only to find out that was Michael's suggestion as well.
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post #74 of 861
10/3/09 at 12:14pm
If they had gone with the equally minuscule raise option, the asshole employees probably woudl've started bitching about how certain departments and so-and-so's merited more than others.

There was no way to win with THESE people...
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post #75 of 861
10/3/09 at 12:15pm
Yeah, but I think you have more of a leg to stand on with "Everybody gets the same thing" than "You get a raise and you don't" or "You all get raises, but some are getting more than others". Especially after they reacted so viciously to just the sales people getting the raise. In fact, I expected Michael to jump in there with a "Jim's just kidding, everybody gets the same raise."
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post #76 of 861
10/3/09 at 12:17pm
Oh, no doubt. I wondered the same thing.
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post #77 of 861
10/8/09 at 11:16pm
I gotta say, the Chris Brown Youtube wedding made me laugh. Kevin wearing tissue boxes for shoes made me laugh harder. Michael still sucks.
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post #78 of 861
10/8/09 at 11:31pm
Thread Starter 
Helms' reaction to "the split" might have been the funniest thing I've seen (film and television) all year.
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post #79 of 861
10/8/09 at 11:40pm
The absurdity of the dance in (Shrute kicking the chick killed me) juxtaposed against the genuine sweetness of Pam and Jim on the boat worked for me.
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post #80 of 861
10/8/09 at 11:55pm
Holy shit the tissue boxes, Kevin is my hero. Also, the speech was probably the most cringeworthy minute of television in a long time. I love that it was so awkward even Creed looked uncomfortable.
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post #81 of 861
10/9/09 at 12:12am
I know that vomit jokes are just a hair above fart jokes but goddamn the opening of the episode was funny.
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post #82 of 861
10/9/09 at 12:14am
That little dance was sweet. Love Angela just walking down the aisle. I too would be offended if people thought Kevin was my boyfriend. I wish Andy the best of luck with Erin!
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post #83 of 861
10/9/09 at 1:05am
Not just the best episode of the year, but one of their better episodes at all. Like Raspberry Leper said, showing us the glimpses of the sweet boat trip while everything was going on at the wedding absolutely worked. It was funny, it wasn't sappy and unlike a lot of their 60 minute episodes it filled the entire hour easily. I absolutely loved it.
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post #84 of 861
10/9/09 at 1:11am
Perfect way to handle the wedding. Fantastic episode.
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post #85 of 861
10/9/09 at 1:29am
Oh, forgot to shout out Andy's emotional reaction to Jim's speech. And when they pan over to reveal Dwight looking bored? Priceless.
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post #86 of 861
10/9/09 at 1:45am
Michael's "You'll sleep alone for the rest of the your life, so start getting used to it" to Toby was amazing. Kevin's shoes, the dance, the real life joy they seemed to be having with the episode.

Really liked it.

I'm calling it, Michael starts dating Pam's mom.
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post #87 of 861
10/9/09 at 1:55am
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
I'm calling it, Michael starts dating Pam's mom.
then comes the eventual MICHAEL SCOTT IS JIMS FATHER storyline.
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post #88 of 861
10/9/09 at 2:06am
Also, Michael falling asleep on the drive up. I don't even know why but that just killed me.
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post #89 of 861
10/9/09 at 2:06am
That was absolutely fantastic. Sweet and still really funny.

"Plan A was marrying her years ago."

Michael's talk about how sex with condoms on feeling different killed me.
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post #90 of 861
10/9/09 at 2:35am
Poor Toby. "I guess that's means the end of those two . . ."

I think I might have a crush on Erin. So adorable.

Great episode.
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post #91 of 861
10/9/09 at 2:42am
I'm really digging Dwight this season.

"She's a dental hygenist from Carbondale, and she makes love like one. Pass."

But then I'm always digging Dwight.
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post #92 of 861
10/9/09 at 2:43am
best episode ever and I second the love for Dwight.
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post #93 of 861
10/9/09 at 2:51am
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I think I might have a crush on Erin. So adorable.
Isn't this her?
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post #94 of 861
10/9/09 at 4:08am
Yep, that's her.
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post #95 of 861
10/9/09 at 6:01am
Okay, I've never heard of this apparently legendary Youtube video they were dancing to. I'm guessing it's a couple of years old (like Parkour). Anyone got a link?
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post #96 of 861
10/9/09 at 6:03am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0
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post #97 of 861
10/9/09 at 8:47am
What sold the vomit scene was the absolutely calculating look on Pam's face when she did it. And Creed still chowing down on his lo mein through all of it.
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post #98 of 861
10/9/09 at 8:55am
I think Angela doing it through her hands got me
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post #99 of 861
10/9/09 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by Dr. Murder View Post
I love that they added a link to donate to a domestic violence charity in response to everyone's criticisms about starting their life together dancing to a song by a guy who did THIS to Rhianna's face.

Also, I've seen that video several times and it never ceases to amaze me how uncoordinated those people are. Flapping your elbows like chicken wings a dance does not make..
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post #100 of 861
10/9/09 at 10:43am

re

Outstanding episode - from what I've noticed pretty much any "Office" episode featuring a musical montage is golden. Was anyone else crushed that part II of the Andy/Kelly dance-off was cut short? Oh, hello everyone *waves*
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