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post #1 of 34
9/21/09 at 12:28pm
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I'm a huge fan of the Winter Olympics. Saddened/disappointed by this news if true.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/21/sp...nted=1&_r=1&hp
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post #2 of 34
9/21/09 at 12:36pm
I'm a huge fan of the Winter Olympics as well (I actually prefer them to the Summer Olympics), and this news really sucks. I can understand and respect Canada's desire to crank out some gold medals this time around, but COME ON.
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post #3 of 34
9/21/09 at 12:42pm
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Well they don't start until February, so hopefully Canada relents and make its venues more open to other countries. Kind of curious how our Canadian members think about this news story, eh?
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post #4 of 34
9/21/09 at 12:45pm
Hopefully, this NY Times article will stir the public-opinion pot a little bit. It's poor sportsmanship on Canada's part.
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post #5 of 34
9/21/09 at 12:54pm
On behalf of Canadians everywhere:

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post #6 of 34
9/21/09 at 12:59pm
Well I kind of feel bad for Canada, you know you are desperate when you're relying on gold medals from curling to reach your "quota".
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post #7 of 34
9/21/09 at 2:59pm
Blame Canada!
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post #8 of 34
9/21/09 at 3:18pm
I do suspect that bitch Ann Murray.
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post #9 of 34
9/21/09 at 3:20pm
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Hey, hey. No hatin' on our Northern step-sibling.
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post #10 of 34
9/21/09 at 3:23pm
Fuck that, we'll do it anyway.
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post #11 of 34
9/21/09 at 3:24pm
I call for a boycott of all things Nickelback.
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post #12 of 34
9/21/09 at 3:29pm
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Well I kind of feel bad for Canada, you know you are desperate when you're relying on gold medals from curling to reach your "quota".
Fuck you (as usual) cap, the brits are taking the curling gold.

Also, as a vancouverite (but non-canadian), let me be the first to say, fuck you all, we're paying for this shit.

Secondly - prepare for the best winter olympics ever.

Thirdly - I'm sure americans would NEVER try to pull this shit(!)

Fouthly - go Canucks go.

fifthly - the nickelback boycott is in it's 4th year here in BC.

Finally - the views expressed herein do not necessarily reflect anything but BC's emotional and financial burnout relating to the 2010 winter olympics.
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post #13 of 34
9/21/09 at 3:33pm
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I call for a boycott of all things Nickelback.
Only if it extends to Canada as well.
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post #14 of 34
9/21/09 at 3:34pm
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Secondly - prepare for the best winter olympics ever.

I can't wait. It'll be nice to be able to watch all of this stuff live in prime time again.
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post #15 of 34
9/21/09 at 3:34pm
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Thirdly - I'm sure americans would NEVER try to pull this shit(!)
No, they haven't. Then again, we don't need to either.
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post #16 of 34
9/21/09 at 3:44pm
Apart from the NFL, the Winter Olympics are my favorite sports times. Love the Alpine stuff the most. I have great hopes that we'll have a rockin great games. So...is Scorcese doing the opening ceremony? You guys aren't going to have Celine Dion singing, are you?

And I've not heard any apologies regarding Bryan Adams lately.
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post #17 of 34
9/21/09 at 3:50pm
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Fuck you (as usual) cap, the brits are taking the curling gold.
Thirdly - I'm sure americans would NEVER try to pull this shit(!)
You didn't read the article, did you?
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post #18 of 34
9/21/09 at 3:53pm
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Originally Posted by mr_adam View Post

Fouthly - go Canucks go.
I'd rather cheer for Nickelback, really. ( I'm kidding. The only thing worse than Nickelback, are The Maple Leafs)

EDIT: Yeah, this news sucks....
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post #19 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:02pm
The Olympic Committee is hardly representative of our athletes, province, or Canada in general. Very petty actions on their part, but direct your venom.
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post #20 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:07pm
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The Olympic Committee is hardly representative of our athletes, province, or Canada in general. Very petty actions on their part, but direct your venom.
What? Apart from some Nickelback bashing and light hearted ribbing, I haven't seen ANYTHING resembling 'venom' in this thread yet.
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post #21 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
You didn't read the article, did you?
i read every article before posting cap, you douche. Even the shit you post.

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A decades-old open-access agreement between the luge teams of the United States and Canada has come undone. Americans said that most Canadian athletes took 60 to 100 extra practice runs in Utah before the 2002 Salt Lake Games. Canada offered the United States 18 this time, in a trade for 18 Canadian runs at this year’s world championships in Lake Placid, N.Y. The Americans refused.
Did you read the article?

how's that for venom?
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post #22 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:10pm
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No, they haven't. Then again, we don't need to either.
That, for me, is the really sad part. Essentially our OC is saying that we don't have a hope in hell of winning medals unless we use underhanded, questionable tactics. It makes me ill.
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post #23 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:11pm
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Also, as a vancouverite (but non-canadian), let me be the first to say, fuck you all, we're paying for this shit.
Don't really understand this one. I mean, it's not as though the Olympics were a punishment to Vancouver. They asked for the Olympics. Also, they (the Olympics) tend to pay for themselves (in the long term).
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post #24 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:14pm
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Did you read the article?

how's that for venom?
18 runs. 18 runs compared to the 60-100 runs the Canadian's had in Utah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure the American's felt insulted. Rightly so they declined.
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post #25 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:25pm
Yeah, but 'direct your light hearted ribbing' just doesn't roll of the tongue

I know no one is being scumbaggy (yet? Cap should be starting another anti-canada tirade any minute now), but I don't like the entire country being used as a placeholder here, as I'm sure Yanks, Brits, or anyone else wouldn't either. Canada and our athletes aren't cheating, a select group of people who have direct influence over the proceedings and poor sportsmanship are. I know that's what you folks mean, it's probably unavoidable at this point and certainly not exclusive to this thread in any way.. but it's disheartening to think that the entire Winter Games are now going to be tainted with *CANADA* Cheated like we're pumping our teams with steroids and trannies and putting gravel on other country's runs.
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post #26 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:31pm
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Yeah, but 'direct your light hearted ribbing' just doesn't roll of the tongue

I know no one is being scumbaggy (yet? Cap should be starting another anti-canada tirade any minute now), but I don't like the entire country being used as a placeholder here, as I'm sure Yanks, Brits, or anyone else wouldn't either. Canada and our athletes aren't cheating, a select group of people who have direct influence over the proceedings and poor sportsmanship are. I know that's what you folks mean, it's probably unavoidable at this point and certainly not exclusive to this thread in any way.. but it's disheartening to think that the entire Winter Games are now going to be tainted with *CANADA* Cheated like we're pumping our teams with steroids and trannies and putting gravel on other country's runs.
Fair enough. For the record, while I disagree with this decision by your OC, I will always LOVE LOVE LOVE your country. Hell, I live in MN...I'm practically a Canadian as it IS.
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post #27 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:35pm
This is too funny, c'mon man, my little post about curling (which is an item in the article) and the pressure to win medals (another item in the article) qualifies as some type of pre-crime you have to warn us all about?

BTW I have nothing against Canada (I love the little I've seen of it in person so far), nor know anybody that does ... the concept is too silly to even consider. But some of those threads in the past were kind of mocking some of our Canadian posters here about being a bit too thin skinned, and is unfortunate that some of you guys are often trying your hardest to prove that.
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post #28 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
You didn't read the article, did you?
I think what my fellow Canadian meant was it's the type of move that the U.S. would probably do in the same situation. If you guys came off a run of disappointing Olympic showings, you'd be pulling out all the stops to try and win.

Although, I don't see how much of an advantage this is really going to bring (and it will probably motivate some of the U.S. athletes like the ones mentioned in the article).

Also, in regards to HBarr's comments, I know Montreal is still feeling the effects of its Olympics back in the 70s.

From Wikipedia:

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The Olympics were a financial disaster for Montreal, as the city faced debts for 30 years after the Games had finished. The Quebec provincial government took over construction when it became evident in 1975 that work had fallen far behind schedule; work was still under way just weeks before the opening date, and the tower was not built. Mayor Jean Drapeau had confidently predicted in 1970 that "the Olympics can no more have a deficit than a man can have a baby", but the debt racked up to a billion dollars that the Quebec government mandated the city pay in full.

The Olympic Stadium, a daring design of French architect Roger Taillibert, remains a lasting monument to the huge deficit and as such is known as the Big Owe; it never had an effective retractable roof, and the tower was completed only after the Olympics. In December 2006 the stadium's costs were finally paid in full.[5] The total expenditure (including repairs, renovations, construction, interest, and inflation) amounted to C$1.61 billion. Today, despite its huge cost, the stadium is devoid of a major tenant, after the Montreal Expos moved in 2005.
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post #29 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:38pm
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Don't really understand this one. I mean, it's not as though the Olympics were a punishment to Vancouver. They asked for the Olympics. Also, they (the Olympics) tend to pay for themselves (in the long term).
The '84 games were the first example of this. Although I can't speak for other cities. It does make for nice additions to infastructure and all.
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post #30 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:44pm
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I think what my fellow Canadian meant was it's the type of move that the U.S. would probably do in the same situation. If you guys came off a run of disappointing Olympic showings, you'd be pulling out all the stops to try and win.

Although, I don't see how much of an advantage this is really going to bring (and it will probably motivate some of the U.S. athletes like the ones mentioned in the article).

Also, in regards to HBarr's comments, I know Montreal is still feeling the effects of its Olympics back in the 70s.
All legal and sportsman-like stops to try and win. There are plenty of other countries out there that pull this kind of shit (looking at China and Russia). This is possibly a very real stain for the Candian OC. Goes against the very spirit of the Olympics. Shame on them. Also, it is a very real advantage against others competing. Ask any sportsman whether they would prefer playing on a field they are familiar with or one that is virtually unknown. I know what my answer would be (hint, one that I'm intimately familiar with).

Hate to be a grouch, but once again Vancouver ASKED for the Olympics. For the vast majority of cities who host the Olympics it is a HUGE finanical boom (and more than pays for itself).
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post #31 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:47pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
This is too funny, c'mon man, my little post about curling (which is an item in the article) and the pressure to win medals (another item in the article) qualifies as some type of pre-crime you have to warn us all about?
Actually, this lady told me -



Appreciated though, Cap. I'd just seen too much of the mocking to come to any other conclusion on the matter. Olive branch thread anyone? Before we crush you in hockey that is..
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post #32 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:52pm
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All legal and sportsman-like stops to try and win. There are plenty of other countries out there that pull this kind of shit (looking at China and Russia). This is possibly a very real stain for the Candian OC. Goes against the very spirit of the Olympics. Shame on them. Also, it is a very real advantage against others competing. Ask any sportsman whether they would prefer playing on a field they are familiar with or one that is virtually unknown. I know what my answer would be (hint, one that I'm intimately familiar with).

Hate to be a grouch, but once again Vancouver ASKED for the Olympics. For the vast majority of cities who host the Olympics it is a HUGE finanical boom (and more than pays for itself).
Maybe all legal ways to try and win, but I'm not so sure about sportsman-like.
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post #33 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:52pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
BTW I have nothing against Canada (I love the little I've seen of it in person so far), nor know anybody that does ... the concept is too silly to even consider. But some of those threads in the past were kind of mocking some of our Canadian posters here about being a bit too thin skinned, and is unfortunate that some of you guys are often trying your hardest to prove that.
Let's make one thing clear here: the only thing that you did on which I called you out because it was monumentally ertarded was you judging the entire country with a sojourn of a couple of days in wintery Calgary.

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Also, in regards to HBarr's comments, I know Montreal is still feeling the effects of its Olympics back in the 70s.
No shit...

And what the fuck this mr_adam has stuck up his ass?
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post #34 of 34
9/21/09 at 4:58pm
It's a question of good sportsmanship, nothing more. It doesn't violate any rule (like having underage athletes, for instance), but it does violate the spirit of the Olympics. It especially hurts when you consider the tight bond that the US and Canada have shared in alot of sports.
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