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post #101 of 115
LFO's masterwork "Summer Girls" may seem like harmless pop fluff filled with a catchy melody and ridiculous rhymes, but it is actually the ramblings of a psychopath to his captured victim.

Take a look at the lyrics and you'll find more than enough evidence.

Notice, as our song begins, the desperation and longing.
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Do you remember, Do you remember?
...when we met..That summer??"
It was such an important time for our narrator. He recalls with clarity the first moment he laid eyes on his victim. It becomes clear that he scouts around the malls, watching women. He has an affinity for the girls at Abercrombie & Fitch, likely because it rhymes with his own name which amuses him. One might assume that if his name were Josh he would be forced to troll for strange at the OshKosh B'Gosh, making this song even more disturbing.
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Call me Willy Whistle cause I can't speak baby
Something in your eyes went and drove me crazy
Now I can't forget you and it makes me mad,
Left one day and never came back
Now, maybe he only just looked before. Who's to say. What's clear is that, while he may have liked lookin' at the other girlies, there was something special about this one. He watched her day in and day out. But when one fateful day at the shopping center she failed to show...he snapped. No longer capable of rational thought, his brain is jumbled with thoughts of Larry Bird and ruby red slippers.

The rest of his year was probably spent in anguish, longing for the days of the summer girls, but especially this girl. He often laments that he'd "take her if I had one wish." And then, with the dawning of another summer - she returns!

And this time she's not getting away...
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Summertime girls are the kind I like,
I'll steal your honey like I stole your bike
Having gone to amazing lengths to stalk this poor girl, even going so far as to steal her bicycle (likely for some sexual thrill), he takes her hostage with the intent to rape her. And he does so, screaming about Macauley Culkin and macaroni & cheese all the while.

It's amazing such a dark, brutal song got so much airplay back in '99, but such was the power of the Lyte Funky Ones. Seriously, that's what LFO stands for.
post #102 of 115
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Originally Posted by Dax View Post
"I Want You", Elvis Costello
Speaking of Costello, "Oliver's Army" has to be the happiest, perkiest song about the British army killing people ever written.
post #103 of 115
Fastball, the Way....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_%28song%29

Happiness leading to death in a ravine....

Country songs can always be counted on for dark stories....

Martina McBride's song Independence Day describes the trifecta of alcoholism, spousal abuse, and a Burning Bed style murder-suicide all told from the point of view of the surviving child....

Well she seemed all right by dawn�s early light though she looked a little
Worried and weak she tried to pretend he wasn�t drinkin� aagain but daddy left
The proof on her cheek and I was only eight years old that summer and I always
Seemed to be in the way so I took myself down to the fair in town on
Independence day

Well word gets a round in a small, small town they said he was a dangerous man
But mama was proud and she stood her ground she knew she was on the losin� end
Some folks whispered some folks talked but everybody looked the other way and
When time ran out there was no one about on indpendence day

Chours: let freedom ring, let the white dove sing let the whole world know that
Today is a day of reckoning let the weak be strong, let the right be wrong roll
The stone away, let the guilty pay, it�s independence day

Well she lit up the sky that fourth of july by the time the firemen come they
Just put out the flames and took down some names and send me to the county home
Now I ain�t sayin� it�s right or it�s wrong but maybe it�s the only way talk
About your revolution it�s indepenednce day

Repeat chorous

Roll the stone away it�s independence day

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A side point of this song is Sean Hannaty uses this song as the lead in for his radio show. Specifically this chorus sequence.....

Chours: let freedom ring, let the white dove sing let the whole world know that
Today is a day of reckoning let the weak be strong, let the right be wrong roll
The stone away, let the guilty pay, it�s independence day

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Truly, has anyone on their show even listened to these words?

Let the right be wrong?

Seriously? Not the song I want for a right winger's show in either the context of Right vs Left or Right vs Wrong...
post #104 of 115
Hi- first post
The original lyrics to Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas are not exactly warm and fuzzy. Rather, they are coming from a shitty place that hopes things will get better. It speaks of lost friends and having to 'muddle through somehow'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Have_Yo...ttle_Christmas

Dexys Midnight Runners- Come On Eilleen is the poppiest song insisting on date rape i can think of, but still love it!

Come on Eileen,
I swear (well he means) At this moment you mean everything,
With you in that dress my thoughts I confess verge on dirty
Ah come on Eileen...

Come on Eileen, I swear, well he means
Ah come on let's take off everything,
That pretty red dress Eileen (Tell him yes)
Ah come on let's, ah come on Eileen, please.

Also:
Headstones - Cemetary cheerfully admits to necrophelia
Jim Carroll Band - People Who Died is all death set to catchy rock
Dire Straits - Romeo and Juliet - sounds romantic, is actually about lost love
Cindy Lauper - She Bop is about masturbation
Smiths - Girlfriend in a Coma is all mixed messages. How did she get in the coma?
Smiths - The More You Ignore Me the Closer I Get: this guy WILL NOT give up!
Tragically Hip - New Orleans is Sinking is THE consumate bar song, and so on the nose

And everyone has heard Sleepwalk by Santo and Johnny (the instrumental funeral march on La Bamba). Not so much an upbeat pop song although it got pretty huge at the time. Anyway, they actually wrote lyrics to it, and they are surprise surprise, rather devastating.
This version was recorded and never did that well, but have a listen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pCUR0gMXDc

Finally, I've heard that after Top Gun came out, many people chose 'You've lost that loving feeling' as their wedding song. Its obvious they never really listened to the words.
post #105 of 115
This is possibly just me, but I'm always bewildered at how Kelly Clarkson's "Because Of You" has become glossed over to just the title, presumed to be a song about others giving us strength, and used at weddings or funerals. Even the slightest glimpse at the lyrics or the videos(the original with her fighting with her boyfriend or the one with Reba where her boyfriend gives her a black eye) show it to be about finding strength, but due to learning from the crazy obsessions and errors of parents of those you loved and is incredibly unflattering to whoever Kelly sings about.

I will not make the same mistakes that you did
I will not let my heart cause myself such misery
I will not break the way that you did, you fell so hard
I've learned the hard way to never let it get that far

Because of you I never stray too far from the sidewalk
Because of you I learned to play on the safe side so I don't get hurt
Because of you I find it hard to trust not only me
But everyone around me
Because of you I am afraid

I lose my way and it's not too long before you pointed out
I cannot cry because I know that's weakness in your eyes
I'm forced to fake a smile, a laugh, every day of my life
My heart can't possibly break when it wasn't even whole to start with

REFRAIN

I watched you die, I heard you cry every night in your sleep
I was so young, you should have known better than to lean on me
You never thought of anyone else you just saw your pain
And now I cry in the middle of the night for the SAME DAMN THING

REFRAIN

Because of you I try my hardest just to forget anything
Because of you I don't know how to let anyone else in
Because of you I'm ashamed of my life because it's empty
Because of you I am afraid
post #106 of 115
"I Don't Like Mondays", by The Boomtown Rats. The song references the sixteen-year-old girl in San Diego who shot students and school administration with a rifle her dad bought her. When the police asked her why she did it, she said "I don't like Mondays".

I Don't Like Mondays
post #107 of 115
When I woke up the rain was pourin' down
There were people standing all around
Something warm rollin' through my eyes
But somehow I found my baby that night
I lift her head, she looked at me and said,
"Hold me darling, just a little while"
I held her close, I kissed her our last kiss
I found the love that I knew I would miss.

Well now she's gone
even though I hold her tight
I lost my love, my life, that night.
post #108 of 115
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Speaking of Costello, "Oliver's Army" has to be the happiest, perkiest song about the British army killing people ever written.
Since we're talking Costello, I think it was James Gunn who said that "Alison" was the best song written from the perspective of a stalker. I can totally see it.
post #109 of 115
Not to jump on you on your first post, but...

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Originally Posted by justinusual View Post

Dexys Midnight Runners- Come On Eilleen is the poppiest song insisting on date rape i can think of, but still love it!

Come on Eileen,
I swear (well he means) At this moment you mean everything,
With you in that dress my thoughts I confess verge on dirty
Ah come on Eileen...

Come on Eileen, I swear, well he means
Ah come on let's take off everything,
That pretty red dress Eileen (Tell him yes)
Ah come on let's, ah come on Eileen, please.
If you listen to the rest of the lyrics, this is about as clear cut a case of the ol' "carpe diem" poetic trope as "Gather ye rosebuds while ye may." The whole song is about the passage of time (crooners of the past, the aged people around them, the very fact that the narrator and Eileen are childhood friends). The narrator wants Eileen to consent (and there's not much evidence that she won't!); he's not forcing himself on her.
post #110 of 115
"Locked In The Trunk Of A Car" by The Tragically Hip is a great, upbeat, fun as hell to sing with song, but if the title didn't give it up, not the lightest content.

Morning broke out the backside of a truck-stop
the end of a line a real, rainbow-likening, luck stop
where you could say I became chronologically "sick and ashamed and happy".
Put ten bucks in just to get the tank topped off.
Then, I found a place it's dark and it's rotted.
It's a cool, sweet kinda-place
where the copters won't spot it
and I destroyed the map, I even thought I forgot it,
however, every-day I'm dumping the body.
It'd be better for us if you don't understand.
It'd be better for me if you don't understand

They don't know how old I am,
they found armour in my belly
from the 16th century, conquistador, I think.
They don't know how old I am,
they found armour in my belly.
Passion out of machine-revving tension, lashing
out at machiine-revving tension, brushing by the
machine-revving tension.
post #111 of 115
DaveB- I agree about its nostalgic feel, especially in light of the video. Yet, although he isn't exactly forcing himself on her, neither is he talking about skipping through meadows. He wants sex, and urgently- of the dirty, barefoot, armpit-hair-showing-out-your-shirtless-coveralls-while-your-drunken-buddies-watch variety. Its funny, the chorus to me seems so disconnected to the verses its like a bad junior high get-her-in-the-sac move: "I love sunsets, kittens are cute, poverty is bad, lets get it on!" And trying to bang your childhood friend is kindof creepy in and of itself. Yet as I said, its still one my favorite songs and videos of all time.

BillyG- I love the Hip (they are gods here in Canada) and 'Locked in the Trunk of a Car" especially. So much so that I made a short 8 min film with my brother about 5 years ago, that is loosely based on that song, and 50 Mission Cap. Click here to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl21O1Sa5u0
post #112 of 115
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Originally Posted by Barkatthemoon View Post
When I woke up the rain was pourin' down
There were people standing all around
Something warm rollin' through my eyes
But somehow I found my baby that night
I lift her head, she looked at me and said,
"Hold me darling, just a little while"
I held her close, I kissed her our last kiss
I found the love that I knew I would miss.

Well now she's gone
even though I hold her tight
I lost my love, my life, that night.
It doubtless identifies me as some kind of philistine, but Pearl Jam's cover is probably my favorite track of theirs.
post #113 of 115
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Originally Posted by Dranbon View Post
Since we're talking Costello, I think it was James Gunn who said that "Alison" was the best song written from the perspective of a stalker. I can totally see it.
With the caveat that it's been "so long" since he's seen her; presumably a stalker would be keeping in regular touch.
post #114 of 115
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Originally Posted by Jeb View Post
It doubtless identifies me as some kind of philistine, but Pearl Jam's cover is probably my favorite track of theirs.
Yikes.
post #115 of 115
For the "Songs to Get Raped By" Mega Mix!

"I'm Gonna Make You Love Me"

I'll even do wrong for you
Oh, baby (Oh, baby)

Every minute, every hour
I'm gonna shower you
With love and affection
Look out, it's comin' in your direction
And I'm

I'm gonna make you love me
Oh, yes I will
Yes I will
I'm gonna make you love me
Oh, yes I will
Yes I will

...


And I'm gonna use every trick in the book
I'll try my best to get you hooked
Hey, baby (Hey, baby)

And every night, every day
I'm gonna say
I'm gonna get you, I'm gonna get you
Look out boy, 'cause I'm gonna get you

I'm gonna make you love me
Oh, yes I will
Yes I will
And I'm gonna make you love me
Oh, yes I will
You know I will



"Fire"

I'm riding in your car….
You turn on the radio…
You're pulling me close…
I just say no…
I say I don't like it…
But you know I'm a liar…
Cause when we kiss…
Oooooh…
DATE RAPE.



Additionally, I'm a bit creeped out by Heart's song about having unprotected sex with a strange drifter in seedy hotel (a place she knew well) just so she can have his baby.

"All I Want to Do is Make Love to You"
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