Oh God.. Tea Partier handiwork? - Page 2

Yeah, the race part that wasn't in the post you were replying to.

You randomly imply inflamatory "undertones", and I'm the one who needs to get a grip? I need a clif notes to follow your logic sometimes.

Basically I forget that on most topics, ElCapitan's shtick is to blindly straddle the fence, but keep reaching over to give the Right a nice little tug every once in a while.

For all his assertions of being a staunch centrist, he sure does apologize for the FAR right an awful lot.

*tug tug* "Still thinkin' about you guys! Call me!"

This..

Making this this into some crazed right wing operation called on by all the talking heads is a bit of a joke...

seriously..

How the fuck is this not all over the news right now? Instead, I'm seeing stories about some dumbasses threatening to sue Trump over ridiculous bullshit. Remember when that crazy scrawled "B" into her face, and how that was all over the news?

This should be no surprise to anyone here, but the illusion of a leftist mainstream media is complete and total bullshit.

It's a joke that some unhinged person could have lashed out at a federal employee after hearing talking heads and goddamn ELECTED OFFICIALS calling for resistance to the government and suggesting violence?

More like this was bound to happen, and we should be surprised that it took this long.

To add: Fox News is now covering this, and with a great deal of respect, covering all angles of the story, even the idea that he was killed because of anti-Government sentiment. CNN still hasn't said shit on it since I've been home from school.

Trying to tie this to Beck and his ilk is, as Riggs and Murtaugh would say, thin. *wailing sax*
This crazy fuckos have existed and operated like this long before FoxNews ever took to the air. Now that there's a black commander in chief they're going to get more and more dangerous. This election basically signaled the long anticipated endtimes for these psychos and they intend to go down fighting.
So basically what I'm saying is it's Obama's fault.

Bob why must you incite racial hatred with every passing moment?

Yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that crazy back woods militant hill billy nutjobs make up a large portion of Right Wing Radio's/ television's audience. No conspiracy necessary, just living the dream.....

Saying that there's a racial component to the tea party stuff is "random"? I just want to clear up your "logic" here too. I mean, I did see a bunch of racist signs in the protests there, and lots of valid criticism on that end publicly and in this forum.

Yeah I like to "straddle the fence" on the healthcare discussion.

No, on this I was saying that ... *gasp* ... there could be an explanation for this that had little to do with somebody randomly wanting to kill a federal employee. How outlandish!

And that's not "excusing" behavior, excusing is trying to justify or promote arguments that would validate such a horrible action.

You guys, I think ElCap did it.

No, I think he just fucked his brain with a knife. Reverse cowgirl style.

Nice misdirection, read the posts again, starting with the one in which you implied racism in a post you responded to that wasn't there. Next, of course the Tea Parties are racist. They are held by right wing racist nut jobs who spew the foulest bile imaginable. Also, they are bankrolled by Fox news, who spews the foulest thinly veiled bile imaginable. And you attended how many?

Congratulations, there's a topic you're not a complete cocksucker about. Well done you paragon of fucking virtue, you.

With a block of ice.

The guy probably just walked onto a pot field with a federal ID. It's not the first time it's happened in that area.

It just hasn't been this "big".

Has their been an autopsy? Maybe they just meant he had a good meal before he died.

Viral marketing for a retarded remake of Se7en?

Ha! You clever bastard.

Watching Local News on this.

State Police Spokesperson: "The media has gotten a lot wrong about this. Now, we don't want to call it bad journalism, but well...this is just a death investigation. It could be a homicide, it could be a suicide. We're looking into all options."

Reporter: "He had a message carved into his chest."

State Police Spokesperson makes this annoyed frowny face of confusion.

It happened outside of Manchester on federal land, Agee. But, they think the body could've been carried there.

So, the police mouthpiece wasn't aware of that little detail, or was he operating under the assumption that juicy nugget hadn't been released to the media yet?

I smell an amusingly bungled investigation in the making.....

As a descendant of the mutant hillybilly nutjob coalition, Knott County faction (my grandparents ran a moonshine still upto the 1970's to make a living) I can readily say that they don't need the Right-Winger media to give them reason to shoot someone. You come up to their front door, they'll welcome you in and give you a helping of supper at the table with the family, while preaching to you about loving your neighbor. You set foot on their pot patch or meth factory and they'll blow your head off before saying, "Hi."

*That said, they do follow Fox News with utter devotion in my family's neck of the woods.

I don't know, I just hope WHAS puts the clip online.

Stumbling upon a still or a pot field might get you shot, and your body disposed of quietly -- but what kind of idiot would want to draw an FBI investigation by hanging a census taker and writing "FED" on his chest?

"I nicked the census man" aside, this is an unusual circumstance, and writing it off to remote hillbillies seems as silly as suggesting it's some sort of right-wing conspiracy.

If this happened in a Muslim country we'd bomb the shit out of it. We should do the same here.

That will just make them more mutatey. They'll have like twelve heads and two teeth between them.

These people do more drugs than the human body should be able to tolerate, Singer. They're also notoriously low-educated and not really that adept at the cultural norm.

It could be any number of things, but the fact that it happened doesn't surprise me.

They've already learned to live with no teeth and blacklung.

I don't doubt meth-heads try to wack people left and right -- but when was the last time you heard of them hanging one and scrawling FED on his chest?

By the way, I'm from Appalachia myself, so I'm not unfamiliar with the ways of hillbillies.

After the bombing, it'll just be "hillbilly", singular. They'll just be one giant meat-hill named Billy.

That's just it, Singer. What pushed this instance past the usual level of drug-addled insane shit they do?

I'm very familiar with the area and it just doesn't make any sense. They're prone to quick action, but they don't usually do something this "showy".

Only if we can nuke L.A. and New York as well. Just the poor parts though...I'm sure another yuppie needs an overpriced condo.

I'm sorry, but what the fuck does that have to do with anything related to Devin's comment?

The southern indiana variety of hillbilly, I have come to know and love, just make people disapear. They don't send flashy messages like this. I don't chalk it up to drug addled madness. Doing something like this rocks the boat too much, and would likely bring down repurcussions from family and neighbors. Nobody wants the Feds to focus attention on the area.

That being said, the Kentucky hill folk may have a different modus opperendi.

EDIT;.......so in otherwords, what Anderson just said.

Maybe the fact that he's being a dick. Or maybe the fact that my liberal bleeding heart extends to more than just the ghettos of the urban centers or immigrants.

This is a terrorist act. The people who are not coming forward are hiding terrorists. What do we do to such people in foreign countries? Invade and destroy.

Also, fuck these rednecks right to death.

Missed Point.

The first is too expensive; at something like ten grand per pound sent into orbit, it would cost you everything. The second would be unnecessary pollution. I suggest the Zeta-Jones gambit: get out of the car and shoot him in the head.

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He said another "civil war", the tea party people are mixing racist messages with whatever it is they're trying to communicate, and our past civil war was over slavery ... and you get all worked up???

I'm not trying to excuse anything, I was openly wondering if this could just be something else, and that example from the crazy girl from the elections sound similar. How often do we have people scrawling el Zorro signs in their victims in the real world?

Also, what is so ironic about my sig? Could you point it out?

That girl didn't kill herself though, which is the parallel it feels as if some people are trying to draw here. Instead, she race-baited and tried to make a last ditch effort to get her guy elected. The whole thing was calculated to say, "Hey America, don't you see?? If you elect Obama, the blacks are gonna come and get out of their place!" It was fucking disgusting then, and it's fucking disgusting now, and to suggest that these two events are in any way similar is rhetorical shorthand for "the right isn't as crazy as you think guys, now please excuse me while I go and put my head in the sand again."

As far as people "scrawling el Zorro signs in their victims", that is actually pretty easily explained. You are right, that does not happen in the real world often, but in this case, it makes perfect sense. Whoever did this to this guy fucking LYNCHED him. Now, most of the time, lynch victims didn't have to have a sign, because one look at their skin color would tell you exactly why they were lynched. This dude was white, so the reason wasn't as apparent, thus, the writing of the word "Fed" on him.

This whole thing makes me really want to go back and read "Going to Meet the Man" by James Baldwin again; it's a story that I feel that most people should read at least once in their lives to understand the complete horror and depravity that go along with a lynching.

It'd be easier to wrap my brain around if it had been a teabagging lunatic or some Beck idolizer.

That the folks around here with some red in their family neck glibly dismiss it as your basic "bumpkin tomfoolery" is actually much more problematic. This may be just the same-old same-old for Kentuckians, but for many others, I assume, it's a pretty wretched reflection on the region.

i'm not saying "the right isn't as crazy as you think", I'm saying that this could be something else. At least the original article *AT THE TIME* didn't have much information, and the cops still don't seem to have a clue yet (why they're saying it could be a suicide is a bit bizarre).

That doesn't make it right or just. I think it's easier for you to say these things because you have a low or non-existent opinion of these people. So you make a point by saying if America can go abuse others like they have in the past (and probably will continue to do so in the name of "national security" or some other such nonsense) then they should be able to do so among these folks as well because, after all, it's only fair.

The thing is though it's not fair and you know it. They clam up and pull ranks not because they want to protect murderers but because of fear. It's not an uncommon occurrence in a lot of economically depressed communities.


The people(or person) that did this deserve to be punished. What my contention is (knowing the area and the people like I do) is jumping to conclusions that this is a product of Anti-Obama hysteria or whatever shit Beck or Limbaugh is spouting is foolish at this point.

This has a distinct anti-government bent (carving FEDS into someone is going to leave that impression) but that's always been the case up there when it comes to how people make a living in the face of crushing poverty. It's more about "Leave me the fuck alone so I can grow my weed and put food on the table" than "Obama is a secret Mooslem terrorist!!!".



The point was not missed. It's easier to discount these people or paint them inside a stereotypical box because you have no idea of their suffering or their hardships. Government has failed them and industry has exploited them. Not just for a few years or a decade but generations.

Actually, as it turns out it could be suicide because the guy could have been Def and when you carve out your own chest flesh it reads upside down.. thus.. FED

This was a reality check that ya'll are being a little irrational. "ERRY UN IZ RACIZSTS"

That's backwards, not upside down. Thanks for playing though.