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Dexter season 4

post #1 of 310
9/27/09 at 11:54am
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Well it starts tonight.....im excited.
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post #2 of 310
9/27/09 at 12:24pm
I've always found Dexter's relationship plotlines to be the least interesting stuff on the show, but more Dexter is more Dexter. Here's hoping for a great season. Looking forward to Lithgow.
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post #3 of 310
9/27/09 at 3:07pm
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Looking forward to Lithgow.
Oh yes!
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post #4 of 310
9/27/09 at 7:32pm
First episode is pretty good! Good to see Dex back. Interesting that there is a scene with his daughter that is similar to one in Breaking Bad...American Fathers almost trying to confess what they have done and explain themselves to their children. Terrific stuff.
Was reminded at how great a Physco Lithgow actually is, all that Third Rock shenanigans had totally made me forget.
Can't wait to see this stuff play out.
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post #5 of 310
9/27/09 at 8:40pm
Prediction: Lithgow won't make it to next season.
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post #6 of 310
9/28/09 at 1:16am
Oh Lithgow. Oh my.
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post #7 of 310
9/28/09 at 1:24am
That was truly an unexpected amount of Lithgow ass, huh?
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post #8 of 310
9/28/09 at 3:35am
Not enough in my opinion.

But man, I really do love it when things go wrong whenever Dex has his little killing ritual. I mean, its just more realistic that things won't ALWAYS work out perfectly every kill. Better hurry and hide those body parts in your trunk, Dex!
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post #9 of 310
9/28/09 at 5:33am
I think I was more surprised by the naked girl.

Usually this show treats its killers with a sort of cleanliness to their killings, and Dexter especially doesn't have any really weird fetishistic quirks to his ritual. So it was surprising to see Lithgow's killer have such a bizarre almost sexual (more intimate) component to his killing.

I have a hard time having any real concern for Dexter and his bags-o-person. It's the first episode of the season, we're not going to have 12 episodes of Dexter in jail awaiting conviction.
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post #10 of 310
9/28/09 at 9:39am
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Boy there are 2 people on this show that I wouldn't mind seeing naked and Lithgow isn't one of them. However despite Lithgow's ass I dug this episode and I agree with Jack about the lack of messy killers. Not sure how Dexer is going to explain body parts in his trunk but I also know theres something like episodes left so....he will.
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post #11 of 310
9/28/09 at 11:02am
Question: I haven't seen the first three seasons, but I've kept up on major plot developments. Is this a show that I can jump on? I'm excited for Lithgow, but don't really have the time to play catch up.
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post #12 of 310
9/28/09 at 11:10am
I think you could jump into it pretty easily. Outside the central conceit I don't think there is much to get your head around.
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post #13 of 310
9/28/09 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by RathBandu View Post
Question: I haven't seen the first three seasons, but I've kept up on major plot developments. Is this a show that I can jump on? I'm excited for Lithgow, but don't really have the time to play catch up.
Well Showtime does have this thing called dissecting Dexter which is pretty much a massive recap, so if you can catch that your really set.
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post #14 of 310
9/28/09 at 11:36am
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I think you could jump into it pretty easily. Outside the central conceit I don't think there is much to get your head around.
You will miss "titty British vampire"- but seriously you can jump into S.4 easily. A brief wiki around the main characters like sister and some cops wouldn't hurt..
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post #15 of 310
9/28/09 at 12:44pm
Love how they hit the ground running in this one. Looking forward to the cat and mouse game between Dex and Carradine's character and Lithgow. Two things I really loved: the 'Dexter-as-tired-dad opening', such a great moment and Dexter's reverential, almost envious tone when he said that Trinity was the most successful serial killer to ever get away with it.

So, bets on when Deb is going to fuck up the good thing she has going with Anton?
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post #16 of 310
9/28/09 at 10:30pm
I'm actually looking forward to what made Harry Morgan sleep with Dexter's mom.

He could of had Adrienne Barbeau but didn't.

Very seriously, its been made clear that Debra has been looking at quite a few women and so far found nothing indicating that Harry was a philander. What changed in Dexter's case.
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post #17 of 310
10/5/09 at 2:24am
They have got to ease up on the narration.
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post #18 of 310
10/5/09 at 9:21am
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Also could do without Dexter having long conversations with Harry.
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post #19 of 310
10/5/09 at 12:41pm
Any scene not featuring Dexter is just mediocre TV bordering on soap opera levels. It's that simple. The episodes are a slog to get through now, the quality has diminished over the seasons. And yeah, Dexter's voice overs have also become stale. The sooner Lithgow and Dexter start sharing scenes the better.
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post #20 of 310
10/5/09 at 1:41pm
Yeah, it really is amazing how quickly this show has gone down hill. I couldn't believe it but I was actually bored and couldn't wait to get through the episode and move on to all the other good shit on the tube last night.

I was never a big fan of the interactive Harry hallucinations they introduced last season and it seems like they consisted of half of last night's episode. So tired. Hey, I guess James Remar's gotta work.
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post #21 of 310
10/5/09 at 1:50pm
I'll take the coversations with Harry over the narration any day. Mainly because it's Remar, might be bored with it coming from a lesser actor.

They're just never able to do much with the regular supporting cast. Office romance between Angel and Maria? Don't care. Quinn taking some dough on the side? Eh.

No way I can stop watching with nutty Lithgow around.
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post #22 of 310
10/12/09 at 12:10am
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That episode was just......meh for me. There just isn't that much suspense going on now. Who cares if the cop couple is caught together. Is there something illegal about it? Will Deb leave her boyfriend? Ehh again I don't know if I care that much. I mean she should stay with her boyfriend because thats the only real future.

Also why was Dexter's plan putting on a mask and threatening the life of the guy? Why not just follow him and photograph him doing the deed? Call the police and done! Also if Dexter is going to have a rare fight scene please light it better. Im waiting for Lithgow....
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post #23 of 310
10/12/09 at 2:12am
I thought tonight's was at least better than last week.
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post #24 of 310
10/12/09 at 2:19am
Guess it was mildly better than last week. Liked Masuka's truck, Rita seeing Dexter bust the lights, and nekkid reporter lady.

Still a lot of meandering bullshit to wade through though.
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post #25 of 310
10/13/09 at 2:52am
For some reason Hall's delivery of "Neighborhood...shithead." left me in stitches. Other than that, meh. Lithgow is the only thing doing anything for me. That and Lundy. I liked his little scene with Dexter and the falling dummies.
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post #26 of 310
10/13/09 at 3:19am
They really should give all the soap opera stuff a bit of a rest. It's in the way now, instead of just giving some weight to the characters.
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post #27 of 310
10/13/09 at 3:27am
Fuck that episode. Dexter dressing up in rapist gear doesn't making a lick of sense, let alone him threatening to murder the vandal and his kid. It's just stupid.

Masuka's truck was funny though.
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post #28 of 310
10/13/09 at 11:14pm
I did laugh at "First of all who the FUCK is named Dexter?"
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post #29 of 310
10/19/09 at 3:01am
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Alright so that episode felt a little more like the old Dexter. Dexter coming to a realization during a killing and I gotta say I dug the badass woman cop. And finally killing someone important off. Well at least kind of important.... I considered for a moment that they would have the balls to kill off Deb but ehhh I guess not. Although watching Dexter spin out after that would be great. At least now we have a reason for Dexter to take some real interest in Lithgow and fianlly have a scene together.
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post #30 of 310
10/19/09 at 3:15am
Glad they aren't gonna stretch out the lame love triangle for Deb. Was worried I'd be hearing about that for a few more weeks. What a relief.
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post #31 of 310
10/19/09 at 11:07am
Lithgow's so great in this.

Pretty good episode last night. Going to miss Lundy.

The Laguerta-Batista relationship scenes are harsh.
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post #32 of 310
10/19/09 at 6:30pm
Now that was close to vintage Dexter. Not to mention one of the lame soap opera plots seems to have ended.
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post #33 of 310
10/19/09 at 10:04pm
Having to wait a week for the next episode is gonna be tough.
God, i wish i could watch all episode of season 4 in one go.
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post #34 of 310
10/19/09 at 10:11pm
Tell me about it!! I missed the episode last night, but just finished watching it now via OnDemand. This show keeps getting better.
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post #35 of 310
10/19/09 at 10:39pm
That's how every love triangle on TV should be resolved. With bullets.

Except on late night CINEMAX, where they resolve things a bit differently.
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post #36 of 310
10/20/09 at 11:24pm
So who's the shooter at the end of episode 4? Is it Lithgow? Trying to make it look like the vacation murderer? Random? The actual vacation murderder?

I just watched it again, and the perp took Lundy's wallet and watch, so my guess is it's Lithgow, disguising himself. I hope it's not, as I think that would be just too convenient. And it completely breaks away from Lithgow's character, I think. I know he ran into Lundy earlier, but damn, being able to track him down so easily. I also am gonna miss Lundy if he's dead. I really like his character.

Like others, I'm kind of bored of the soap opera shit. I'm also sick of Rita's bitchiness. My god woman, ease up.
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post #37 of 310
10/21/09 at 12:50am
It's got to be Trinity, no? The run-in with Lundy earlier. Then, instead of beating someone to death outside of a bar, he substituted himself minus the to death part. I might be wrong, of course. I can't really remember what the third kill usually is, but I think that's what they were doing there.
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post #38 of 310
10/21/09 at 1:44am
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It's got to be Trinity, no? The run-in with Lundy earlier. Then, instead of beating someone to death outside of a bar, he substituted himself minus the to death part. I might be wrong, of course. I can't really remember what the third kill usually is, but I think that's what they were doing there.
The third kill was a male bludgeoning. Trinity got beat up a bit at that bar, but that was before he knew about Lundy and ran into him, so I'm not exactly sure how the third death is supposed to play out normally.

I re-watched the ending, and the killer only took items from Lundy (as far as I could see...nothing on-camera showed different). If Deb's purse wasn't stolen (or anything else of value), then that'll be a dead giveaway to the cops that it wasn't the vacation murderer. Plus, Lundy took voice notes about his run-in with Trinity, so they'll find that soon as well.
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post #39 of 310
10/21/09 at 3:26am
It very probably is Trinity but I wouldn't rule Anton out completely. It has to be pretty upsetting going through what he went through last year only to find out your girlfriend, which was a big part of your troubles, jumped in the bed with her old boyfriend when he came back to town.

What's certain is that it was an assassination not a robbery.
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post #40 of 310
10/21/09 at 3:56am
When Lundy was escorting Deb out to her car, and just before they were shot, I was sure Anton would be waiting for them outside. However, after Deb was shot, I quickly dismissed him. I can't rule him out, either, but I don't believe he'd attempt to kill them both.
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post #41 of 310
10/21/09 at 3:59am
yeah, i wouldn't totally discount it, but it just seems a little too pat for it to be Anton. at least i hope so.
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post #42 of 310
10/21/09 at 10:10am
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The third kill was a male bludgeoning. Trinity got beat up a bit at that bar, but that was before he knew about Lundy and ran into him, so I'm not exactly sure how the third death is supposed to play out normally.
Was the beating before or after Trinity saw the story about Lundy being in town in the paper? It really seemed like he was substituting himself.
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post #43 of 310
10/21/09 at 10:37am
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Was the beating before or after Trinity saw the story about Lundy being in town in the paper? It really seemed like he was substituting himself.
Just re-watched, and Trinity saw the story about Lundy in the paper while in the library, about 10 minutes into the episode. It was before the beating, which took place about 17 minutes in.

What's interesting is that, when Trinity saw the photo and article, he smirked, like he was intrigued that there was someone chasing him. A completely different reaction from when he first saw Lundy outside of the future third kill location (this reaction makes sense, as Trinity had to be shocked he was found so quickly).

I'm still confused as hell about how the third kill is supposed to play out.
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post #44 of 310
10/21/09 at 2:00pm
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I'm still confused as hell about how the third kill is supposed to play out.
I'm guessing Trinity is playing out his childhood. His father abusing his sister leading to hers and his mothers suicide. He then remains alone with his father who in turn turns violent on him, hence the beating outside the bar, which leads to his revenge by beating him to death. So getting rid of Lundy was just him making sure he won't get caught and he'll probably go after someone else. It probably won't be bar guy, though, since he seemed pretty random.
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post #45 of 310
10/21/09 at 3:48pm
It look like my pet theory that Lundy is Trinity got shot down.
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post #46 of 310
10/21/09 at 11:07pm
Man what.

Did you not see the premiere episode? Or any recap during the first two minutes of every subsequent episode? Anyway, I thought this was the best episode of the season. I don't know if that's because Dexter's wife and kids were nowhere to be seen or if the victim of the week was actually interesting. I hope this sets the tone for the rest of the season.
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post #47 of 310
10/22/09 at 8:06am
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I don't know if that's because Dexter's wife and kids were nowhere to be seen or if the victim of the week was actually interesting. I hope this sets the tone for the rest of the season.
Couldn't agree more. That cop seemed like a great, risky foil for Dex, and the less we see of his utterly annoying family the better.
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post #48 of 310
10/22/09 at 9:42am
Bad cop was totally hot. I was hoping she'd stick around a little while longer.
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post #49 of 310
10/22/09 at 10:09am
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Bad cop was totally hot. I was hoping she'd stick around a little while longer.
One of the rare times I was wishing the cellophane was a bit more transparent!

I do wish we'd gotten to see the flirting go a bit further. I was curious as to whether Dexter could pull something like that off.
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post #50 of 310
10/22/09 at 10:57am
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Couldn't agree more. That cop seemed like a great, risky foil for Dex, and the less we see of his utterly annoying family the better.
But Astor is turning into a young woman! Think of all the interesting teen girl drama we might get! Who needs serial killers?
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