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Hitler Lives!

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
or... rather he certainly didn't die the way we thought he did.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,26135072-2,00.html

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ADOLF Hitler may not have died in a bunker after fresh research suggests the skull thought to be the tyrant's was from a woman.

US archaeologist Nick Bellantoni found fragments from the skull believed to be Hitler's were too thin to be from a male, and suspected it was the remains of a much younger woman, The Sun reports.

"The bone seemed very thin - male bone tends to be more robust. It corresponds to a woman between the ages of 20 and 40," Dr Bellantoni said.

DNA tests performed in a US laboratory confirmed the remains could not have belonged to the Nazi leader.

The discovery casts doubt on the exact circumstances of Hitler’s death and could force history books to be rewritten.

Original accounts of Hitler’s death said he shot himself in the head in a bunker after taking a cyanide tablet on April 30, 1945 as the Russian army attacked Berlin.

His remains, along with those of his wife Eva Braun, were taken from the bunker, doused in petrol and set ablaze.

A year later, skull fragments were dug up by Russian forces which seemed to confirm Hitler had shot himself in the bunker.

In 1970, the KGB cremated Hitler’s remains except for the skull fragment.

Dr Bellantoni was sceptical about the theory the skull fragments belong to Eva Braun, who was with Hitler in the bunker where he supposedly died.

"There is no report of Eva Braun having shot herself or having been shot afterwards. It could be anyone. Many people were killed around the bunker area," he said
I was actually talking with some people about this last week. I don't remember where they saw it or read it (or knew Nick himself) but apparently this guy Nick Bellantoni (from Connecticut) flew over to Russia and got permission to examine the remains. They only gave him one hour, so he had to work quickly and the results he came up with were quite shocking. Apparently, the remains were that of a woman in her early 20's ... this would discount both Hitler and Eva Braun as suspects. I know the article I linked said 20-40 but the people I spoke with said early 20's and like I said... I don't have that link handy at the moment (Anyone else?).

This is rather shocking... those kooks who thought Hitler lived and went to Argentina may have been right and vindicated (I still maintain Kooks). Obviously, a cluserfuck of magnificent perportions occured on April 30th, 1945.
post #2 of 19
Ok, Ok,
I am Adolph Hitler.
post #3 of 19
Daddy? Could it be I have found you?
post #4 of 19
Uh, hello. Everyone knows he was shot in the face like 40 times.
post #5 of 19
Sorry, Jan. I don't buy you as Hitler's lost son. You're just too nice a guy.
post #6 of 19
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Sorry, Jan. I don't buy you as Hitler's lost son. You're just too nice a guy.
Yes! The rouse is working! Keep on believing my son.
post #7 of 19
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Yes! The rouse is working! Keep on believing my son.
So this whole Tokio Hotel thing FINALLY makes sense now.

Now if you excuse me, I'll need to reanimate Simon Wiesenthal to come after your paper-hanging ass.
post #8 of 19
This is more than likely bullshit from someone trying to sell a book. See: "The Hitler Diaries" or some of the more salacious bits in Lothar Machtan's "The Hidden Hitler."

You want a great book that debunks all this shit, particularly whether or not any of Hitler's remains made it back to the Soviet Union? Read Ron Rosenbaum's "Explaining Hitler," one of the best books ever for taking Hitler myths, one at a time, and showing where they came from (even taking on the origin of myths Hitler himself believed in, like "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion"). And if you think Rosenbaum approaches it as an all-or-nothing kind of way, he takes on the myths that are actually true by going pretty deeply into all the Geli Raubal stuff as well as the fact that, well, pretty much any woman who ever had sex with Hitler really DID commit or at least attempt suicide.

Just a fascinating book.

I had to do a ton of Hitler research for a project once and, as a side note, for people just interested in the guy and how it all happened, I'd totally recommend Alan Bullock's "Hitler: A Study in Tyranny," James Pool's "Who Financed Hitler," the Ian Kershaw books (over the Richard J. Evans' "Third Reich" trilogy, though the historical backdrop stuff in Volume 1 is great), John Dornberg's breathless "Munich 1923" and then, though it's the angriest book around, "Der Fuhrer," by Konrad Heiden, a long out-of-print book published in Paris in 1944 by a reporter from the Munich Post who was there for pretty much every Hitler rally in Munich from day one and fought against him from that paper (before Hitler shut it down - Rosenbaum devotes a chapter in "Explaining Hitler" to the Post and its work in his book to disprove the idea that "no one knew" what was happening as, well, the Post even had a daily "murder tally" going on the front page of how many people the Brown Shirts were killing before Hitler was appointed Chancellor).
post #9 of 19
Wasn't Heiden eventually killed by the regime?
post #10 of 19
They still have his teeth who are confirmed to be real. Of course, conspiracy theorists will just claim the dentist was helping Hitler.
post #11 of 19
No. The editor of the Post, Erhard Auer, was killed in Dachau in '45, but Heiden survived the war. Another Post reporter (Edmund Goldschagg) went on to become the first editor to get a license from the Allies to start a newspaper after the war, which became the Suddeutsche Zeitung, pretty much the only non-hopelessly-conservative, investigative-as-hell newspaper in Bavaria today.

As for the KGB/Operation Myth/Hitler's Teeth-and-Skull-Fragments stuff, they still haven't done any kind of DNA testing on that and it's likely because, well, it's probably bullshit. If you go back, the Soviets did a sort of "fake autopsy" filled with all the "Hitler's testicle" stuff that turned out later to be merely KGB propaganda. Claiming they have parts of Hitler's teeth and skull is very likely the same.
post #12 of 19
wow crazy.
Hey Jack, have you ever heard of 'The Psychopathic God; Adolf Hitler"??
I'm reading it right now and Its an interesting, more psychological take on his mindset.
post #13 of 19
I thought this was already well established......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Sa...tler%27s_Brain
post #14 of 19
Is this where we all agree to stop taking Snaieke seriously ever again?
Like any time he tries to argue a point all the rebuttal we need is a link to this thread.
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hahaha. Bob, it's a fun little piece about the possibility Hitler escaped Germany... it isn't like the guy is 90 and kickin it with Eva Braun down in Argentina going "Dakm da jeus".

Little light conversation that can get comedic is never a bad thing.

I mean lets face it.. there was no proof of death..
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(and why is this thread in the Politics forum exactly?)
post #18 of 19
No Hellboy jokes yet? This place is slipping. At least we got an Inglourious Basterds one. And RD what does your photo from the sixth grade have to do with the subject?
post #19 of 19
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And RD what does your photo from the sixth grade have to do with the subject?
...and just who's slipping exactly stel?

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