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And the Nobel Peace Prize goes to...Barack Obama!

post #1 of 142
10/9/09 at 6:24am
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Wow.

That is coming out of the left field for sure. I have to admit that I am a bit dumb founded at this decision. It seems way early in his presidency to award him the nobel peace prize. Ain´t there other people or organizations that earned that prize in the last years?
Though I am kinda looking forward to the shitstorm this will cause in conservative news outlets.

Thoughts?
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post #2 of 142
10/9/09 at 7:31am
Too soon.
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post #3 of 142
10/9/09 at 7:49am
The irony is that the good efforts he has made so far will be completely overshadowed by right wing criticism of this decision, and the man hasn't even asked for the prize.
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post #4 of 142
10/9/09 at 8:10am
As if the conservatives didn't hate him enough all ready.
I think they should have waited, he hasn't really begun to deal with even the Israel/Palestine issue yet. And then there's Afghanistan and Iraq.
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post #5 of 142
10/9/09 at 8:26am
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The more I think about it the more I think it has been a very bad and delusional idea to grant him the Nobel Peace Prize now.

First and foremost I think it will be a burden rather than a honor for President Obama. The situation in Afghanistan is more than fragile. The sitiation in Iran might escalate very soon. And this prize will definitely limit his options, at least in the public perception. Leaving a broken state in Afghanistan or even ordering preemptive strikes against the Iranian nuclear facilities will not vibe well with this prize.
Pretty much every descicion in foreign politics will be measured against this prize. For better or for worse.
But at least Gitmo and Abu Graib are closed and torture has been forbiden. Wait - scrap that. Duh.

Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes.
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post #6 of 142
10/9/09 at 8:43am
Wait, I thought the whole Olympics thing proved the world didn't love him?
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post #7 of 142
10/9/09 at 8:56am
to the man who kissed Chinas ass by not meeting Dalai Lama ?! and I`m gonna get hate mail for this post.
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post #8 of 142
10/9/09 at 9:07am
Im sure even Obama uttered "what the fuck?"
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post #9 of 142
10/9/09 at 9:20am
Yet I'm sure somebody will spin this as being his doing somehow. Or use it to imply he's in the thrall of foreign influences.
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post #10 of 142
10/9/09 at 9:35am
"You know who else got the Nobel Peace prize?
That's right!!"
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post #11 of 142
10/9/09 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by The Closer View Post
Im sure even Obama uttered "what the fuck?"
This.
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post #12 of 142
10/9/09 at 9:59am
Pretty dumb idea. Way to give the right more whine fodder.
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post #13 of 142
10/9/09 at 9:59am
Hey, maybe it'll distract them long enough to actually get some work done in Congress.
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post #14 of 142
10/9/09 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
Pretty dumb idea. Way to give the right more whine fodder.
Two bucks says the right would have bitched about him not getting the Peace Prize.

Still, this was out of nowhere.
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post #15 of 142
10/9/09 at 10:15am
Who gives a flying $#$% what "conservatives" will think. As if the cranky complainers on the right have done anything to deserve any kind of consideration for what they might think of the Nobel Committee's choice. I mean, seriously. While I agree that it puts new pressures on Obama, I think it's great. He's an amazing person, even aside from his policies, just in terms of the emotions he has stirred here and around the world.
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post #16 of 142
10/9/09 at 10:27am
The Worst thing about this is that it's going to heat up the OMG OBAMA IS GOING TO BE ASSASSINATED I JUST KNOW IT thread.
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post #17 of 142
10/9/09 at 10:31am
The explanation is simple. Say you're the new guy in jail. The guy that made you his bitch not only fucks you in the ass twice a day but insists on making you listen all day long to his insane rambling. Then comes another guy and stabs your previous owner to death. The new guy isn't only the strong silent type but he also lets you get by with only giving him a blowjob every other day. Wouldn't you want to give him a gift?

It's an overreaction sure, but it's understandable.
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post #18 of 142
10/9/09 at 10:31am
The citation cites his work on behalf of nuclear nonproliferation, which hasn't come up a lot in his presidency yet, but was a hallmark of his time in the Senate and one of his greatest achievements so far. It, also, states his attempts to create a new climate in international relations, which is definitely true -- I've said this in many a thread, but Obama's speech in Cairo is a landmark speech by a U.S. President, especially in this day and age -- and specifically cites his reaching out to the Muslim world as an example. So the prize was awarded for more than just what he's done during his Presidency, and for one of the things in his Presidency he's actually accomplished.

Of course, all this does is emphasize that Obama is a very strong international president, but shit domestically.
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post #19 of 142
10/9/09 at 10:34am
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Originally Posted by Mr.Crowley View Post
"You know who else got the Nobel Peace prize?
That's right!!"
That's actually Fark's headline for this -- "Barack Obama linked to Yassir Arafat".
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post #20 of 142
10/9/09 at 10:36am
To be fair, they justified it with the thought that the award will pressure him to do more to bring world peace.

I don't think it was a good idea though, and I doubt the President really appreciates the award now since it's likely to prove more of a distraction than anything else.
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post #21 of 142
10/9/09 at 10:36am
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Originally Posted by RathBandu View Post

Of course, all this does is emphasize that Obama is a very strong international president, but shit domestically.
Even more fodder for the right to keep on linking him to Carter.
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post #22 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:14am
There is something very irksome about this, like it's the Nobel comitee saying "see America, if you behave you get a cookie!"

And personally I think that the Nobel's main positive effect is drawing attention to struggles that don't get enough coverage and people who are doing good work while going more or less unappreciated. Not saying they should go for some obscure human rights activist every time, but the prize should matter somehow, at least. There really is no way either Obama or the ideals he represent will gain more power/popularity because of this, it feels more like the Nobel comitee piggybacking on his already more than established popularity.
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post #23 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by Jan View Post
The more I think about it the more I think it has been a very bad and delusional idea to grant him the Nobel Peace Prize now.

First and foremost I think it will be a burden rather than a honor for President Obama. The situation in Afghanistan is more than fragile. The sitiation in Iran might escalate very soon. And this prize will definitely limit his options, at least in the public perception. Leaving a broken state in Afghanistan or even ordering preemptive strikes against the Iranian nuclear facilities will not vibe well with this prize.
Pretty much every descicion in foreign politics will be measured against this prize. For better or for worse.
But at least Gitmo and Abu Graib are closed and torture has been forbiden. Wait - scrap that. Duh.

Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes.
Good points, and that is why I think they awarded him the prize...to try and direct his actions.

This is the biggest WTF news I've heard in a while that isn't wholly negative, so it's got that going for it
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post #24 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by yt View Post
Who gives a flying $#$% what "conservatives" will think. As if the cranky complainers on the right have done anything to deserve any kind of consideration for what they might think of the Nobel Committee's choice. I mean, seriously. While I agree that it puts new pressures on Obama, I think it's great. He's an amazing person, even aside from his policies, just in terms of the emotions he has stirred here and around the world.
While I'm sure he would have gotten one eventually, you just don't get an award for being an amazing person. But hell, You can't blame the president for this.
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post #25 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:27am
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Originally Posted by wadew1 View Post
The Worst thing about this is that it's going to heat up the OMG OBAMA IS GOING TO BE ASSASSINATED I JUST KNOW IT thread.
Unfortunately youre probably right.
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post #26 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by MoonBaseNick View Post
While I'm sure he would have gotten one eventually, you just don't get an award for being an amazing person. But hell, You can't blame the president for this.
Sounds like a challenge that Sean Hannity would be more than willing to accept.
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post #27 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:28am
What's really sad is that our president wins the Nobel Fucking Peace Prize and all we can do is look at how it will blow up in his face.
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post #28 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:31am
Too soon. Ultimately, for all the reasons stated above, I think this is a bad thing.


I also thing it's a strong indicator of just how much everyone (except the right, of course) HATED George W. Bush. That man fucked it up so bad, new guy gets a prize just for not shitting on the rest of the world right off the bat.
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post #29 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:32am
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CNN:
Some like markknoller from Washington DC, said the title is "worth nothing," because "Obama took office less than 10 days before the Feb. 1 deadline for Nobel Prize nominations."
So this means he was nominated based on what? A few books and about a week in office? It's a slippery slope for the Nobel commision, a prize should be awarded for accomplishments, not intentions.
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post #30 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:33am
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Originally Posted by joeypants View Post
Too soon. Ultimately, for all the reasons stated above, I think this is a bad thing.


I also thing it's a strong indicator of just how much everyone (except the right, of course) HATED George W. Bush. That man fucked it up so bad, new guy gets a prize just for not being George W Bush right off the bat.
Fixed!
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post #31 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:34am





Just having fun. This award has often been used to make political statements. It's about recognizing Obama's inspirational qualities, giving a sort of "welcome back" to the US from the International community, and trying to pressure Obama to follow through with his campaign promises of getting out of two wars, closing Gitmo, tackling global warming, etc...

Like people have said here, Obama is probably very taken aback by the award, as well he should be.
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post #32 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:40am
Is it possible they're recognizing him for being the first African-American president?
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post #33 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by MoonBaseNick View Post
While I'm sure he would have gotten one eventually, you just don't get an award for being an amazing person. But hell, You can't blame the president for this.
I heard two co-workers bitching about how for this to happen, his nomination had to go in two weeks into his presidency. If true, there'll be loads of ammo for the Beckerheads.

Edit:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...prize-process/

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The Norwegian Nobel Committee's deadline for nominations was February 1, just 11 days after Obama's inauguration.
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post #34 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
I heard two co-workers bitching about how for this to happen, his nomination had to go in two weeks into his presidency. If true, there'll be loads of ammo for the Beckerheads.
yeah it's true...he was in office about 12 days when nominations were due.
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post #35 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:54am
What really irks me is that this and the Olympic decision were two things that were completely out of his hands. It's not like he campaigned for the Nobel, and his speech at the IOC was about 1% of the total effort of the Chicago bid. But there are those on the right who will use both decisions against him.
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post #36 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:54am
The Nobel Peace Prize is now officially the Cable Ace Award of international accolades.
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post #37 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:55am
I do love seeing the screws get turned on the right-wing nutjobs though. Boy, I bet their jaws are tight this morning.
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post #38 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:55am
You kidding? They'll spin this as "Obama is president of the world, not the United States!" or some such nonsense.
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post #39 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:57am
Just woke up and found out when I looked up. Now I'm gonna check to see how FOX is congratulating him on this.
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post #40 of 142
10/9/09 at 11:59am
they are doing a pretty good job..
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post #41 of 142
10/9/09 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
You kidding? They'll spin this as "Obama is president of the world, not the United States!" or some such nonsense.
I didn't mean in a "prove them wrong" sort of way. Just them being sent into fits of frustration.

It sort of reinforces just how much the rest of the world (and half of our country) cannot stand their line of thinking.
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post #42 of 142
10/9/09 at 12:02pm
I bet he's not happy about getting this award at all.
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post #43 of 142
10/9/09 at 12:05pm
Fareed Zakaria says:

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But I think it's more an award to America for rejoining the world than recognition of President Obama per se. People here underestimate how relieved the world is to have a more engaged, less bullying America.
In other words, "Thank God Bush is gone, here's a medal."
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post #44 of 142
10/9/09 at 12:06pm
Honestly, he should turn it down. He's not deserving, it's purely political, and a gracious refusal and acknowledgment of more worthy candidates could do even more for his public image.
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post #45 of 142
10/9/09 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post


In other words, "Thank God Bush is gone, here's a medal."
By that logic Konrad Adenauer must have had gotten half a dozen of those as the first Bundeskanzler after Hitler.
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post #46 of 142
10/9/09 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by Bancroft Agee View Post
The Nobel Peace Prize is now officially the Cable Ace Award of international accolades.
Im personally wondering when the AFI is going to wake up and hand out a Life Achievement Award to Dakota Fanning.
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post #47 of 142
10/9/09 at 12:10pm
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/...bel-prize-win/

Skipped Church. Hahahaha
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post #48 of 142
10/9/09 at 12:12pm
I'll give her one if she came out to say that there will not be a sequel to Push.
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post #49 of 142
10/9/09 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette View Post
Honestly, he should turn it down. He's not deserving, it's purely political, and a gracious refusal and acknowledgment of more worthy candidates could do even more for his public image.
I was thinking the same thing. It would show the right a little humility and the left a little magnanimousness.
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post #50 of 142
10/9/09 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
Yay. How relevant Fox! Nice to see that they have to preface it with facts that turn their hit piece moot.

I didn´t know that you have to have an official position or be president to be able to be nominated. What´s next? Calls for his birth certificate to validate the prize?
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