CHUD.com Community › Forums › SPORTS, GAMES & LEISURE › Television › The Biggest Loser: Healthy?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

The Biggest Loser: Healthy?

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
So I've gotten a little hooked on this show but there are things that really throw me for a loop.

1. Is it healthy to be losing pounds in the double digits or the high single digits every week?

2. Is the workout schedule unrealistic to maintain at home?

3. Is it really healthier to opt for the chemical cocktail of chewing gum over having say an apple for a snack?

4. Does this show have the most tears per capita of any show ever produced? Okay this one is not a health related question but I've never seen a more emo group than these folks. Maybe it's the producers ginning things up or maybe being highly emotional is a factor in getting fat in the first place.

I'd love it if any health or nutrition experts can chime in here. It just seems like this show, while it has impressive weight loss, is just a recipe for yo-yo dieting. Isn't 2 pounds a week more advisable for losing weight over the long haul? Discuss!
post #2 of 18
Shows like this (I just watched a ton of Celebrity Fit Club for my job) aren't great in showing healthy ways to lose weight. What they are good at, however, is increasing the spirit of competition. These are shows first, a health regimen a far distant second and with the tantalizing prizes people compete for, it's not surprising they'll be kicking themselves to get it, whether it's going all out on an exercise or eating nothing but water for a week. It's ratings, and losing double digits every week is SEXY. It gets people all 'oh damn!' and good for the show. What season are we on? 9 or something? It's a damn successful formula.

As for the crying, yeah, they cry a lot. And the producers LOVE IT!
post #3 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
2. Is the workout schedule unrealistic to maintain at home?
Probably.

Most people that have gotten themselves into a drastic obese situation like on the show, need a good kick in the pants.
post #4 of 18
Thread Starter 
We're on season 8 right now. I'm marathoning season 7 right now and it's kind of amazing to see the transformations these folks have gone through in fast forward. One of my favorite things about the show is the most blatant product placement I've ever seen. On one episode, trainer Bob comes in with a DVD of "Marley and Me" for people to watch. Tell me what the fuck that has to do with a healthy lifestyle. More egregarious though is the idea that chewing Extra is better for you than getting a healthy snack.
post #5 of 18
Not an expert, but that's only because I haven't started studying for certs yet, but I'll try.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
So I've gotten a little hooked on this show but there are things that really throw me for a loop.

1. Is it healthy to be losing pounds in the double digits or the high single digits every week?
Absolutely not. The crash-diet nature of their workout/diet plans is guaranteed to get people to lose weight fast and obviously keep the show entertaining. Quite a few past participants have either gained the weight back or gained a fair portion of it back, which is pretty much standard when it comes to crash dieting/exercising.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
2. Is the workout schedule unrealistic to maintain at home?
I don't think it would be, but then again I've only seen a couple of episodes. For most people, one or two hours a day is great. Even one hour a day is great, it's just a matter of doing something instead of procrastinating.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
3. Is it really healthier to opt for the chemical cocktail of chewing gum over having say an apple for a snack?
Nope, but considering some of the diets they probably have these people on - I'm assuming a protein-sparing modified fast-type diet for most of them since they ideally want them to be able to maintain what lean body mass they have while burning fat - an apple can spike blood sugar and retard fat loss as opposed to just a piece of gum to curb cravings.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
4. Does this show have the most tears per capita of any show ever produced? Okay this one is not a health related question but I've never seen a more emo group than these folks. Maybe it's the producers ginning things up or maybe being highly emotional is a factor in getting fat in the first place.
Probably, but you also have to take into account that your brain does odd stuff when you go on a crash diet, and I can't imagine what it would be like to have a food addiction or to use food as a coping mechanism and then have to go through something like this. Dieting tweaks your hormones, and obviously being denied comfort foods and so forth WILL do a number on you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
I'd love it if any health or nutrition experts can chime in here. It just seems like this show, while it has impressive weight loss, is just a recipe for yo-yo dieting. Isn't 2 pounds a week more advisable for losing weight over the long haul? Discuss!
2 pounds a week is the absolute maximum. Granted, the ideal rule of thumb for that is 2 lb. of fat, but you can almost always factor in a degree of water weight being lost as well, so for posterity's sake 2 lb. of weight is probably the best way to phrase it.

ETA: If someone more well-acquainted with the show could post a sample workout and sample diet I could probably pick it apart a little more just for kicks.
post #6 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake View Post
ETA: If someone more well-acquainted with the show could post a sample workout and sample diet I could probably pick it apart a little more just for kicks.
You have to pay for that shit in the numerous diet books and DVDs Biggest Loser puts out. There's now even The Biggest Loser Wii Fit "game".

In anycase, the show is designed for abnormally fast weight loss. But the food tips and workouts are generally pretty good. I don't know much about the majority of contestants, but the winners usually keep the weight off because they are the most committed to do so from the get-go. Many of them have also gone on to be motivational speakers and/or personal trainers - so the show really was a total body and mind transformation for them.

Further, we don't see it often, but the trainers also work with contestants to confront whatever demons they have. In my mind, it's the loss of psychological baggage that is most responsible for the long term weight loss, rather than the quick fix. (Though admittedly, its not really a "quick fix. People who make it to the end have been doing intense conditioning for 3 months or more so their behavioral modification has a chance to kick in and can carry over once they leave the show.)
post #7 of 18
Yeah, from what I remember I saw lots of olympic lifts, plyometrics, medicine ball slams, etc. - stuff that's good for weight loss AND metabolic conditioning. Some of the more gimmicky things like the weighted partner runs and such struck me as dumb, but hey, it's for the show.
post #8 of 18
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diva View Post
You have to pay for that shit in the numerous diet books and DVDs Biggest Loser puts out. There's now even The Biggest Loser Wii Fit "game".

In anycase, the show is designed for abnormally fast weight loss. But the food tips and workouts are generally pretty good. I don't know much about the majority of contestants, but the winners usually keep the weight off because they are the most committed to do so from the get-go. Many of them have also gone on to be motivational speakers and/or personal trainers - so the show really was a total body and mind transformation for them.

Further, we don't see it often, but the trainers also work with contestants to confront whatever demons they have. In my mind, it's the loss of psychological baggage that is most responsible for the long term weight loss, rather than the quick fix. (Though admittedly, its not really a "quick fix. People who make it to the end have been doing intense conditioning for 3 months or more so their behavioral modification has a chance to kick in and can carry over once they leave the show.)
I've noticed that as well and I think that's the most important thing to weight loss. You can do all the routines and eat the right foods but you have to work on what got you there in the first place the most.

I think what gets me is that Bob and Jillian are constantly saying that it should be normal to lose 6 pounds in one week from home. Some contestants who were sent home for one month last season had expectations to lose up to 40 pounds in 30 days and were disappointed to lose "only" 7-10 pounds. I'm sorry but if I could lose 7-10 pounds a month, I'd be at my goal weight within three months. That's a damn good number.

I guess I'm just wondering if someone who is losing a moderate amount of weight a week must be thinking if they watch those double digits from The Biggest Loser. Will they be discouraged or will they try dangerous workouts and starvation diets because of the show?

Don't get me wrong. I think the goals of the show are great but I wonder if in the search for spicing the show up, they are doing the people they hope to inspire a disservice in the end.
post #9 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
Will they be discouraged or will they try dangerous workouts and starvation diets because of the show?
People already do this, and they were doing it before "The Biggest Loser". I also highly doubt that it'll spur people to try more dangerous workouts considering that there's a sizable amount of people who are terrified of lifting weights because of some irrational fear of "blowing up like Arnold" and can barely stick to an exercise plan/diet plan for a month or two.
post #10 of 18
Thread Starter 
Oh yeah, I have one more gripe with the Biggest Loser. This little bit of nightmare fuel....

post #11 of 18
hahahaha
post #12 of 18
Thread Starter 
Just caught up with last week's ep on HULU and I have to say that the show has reached absurd heights. One of the biggest dramas? A contestant trying to overcome her fear of jumping on a stool 12 inches off the ground. The best unintentional comedy I've seen.
post #13 of 18
I know this is bumping an ancient thread, but I just found this article on a fitness board and thought I'd share:

http://www.burnthefatblog.com/archiv...os_and_con.php
post #14 of 18
I just thought of a new show that stars the guy who wrote that review, and coincidentally it shares the name of another series he seems to be very familiar with.
post #15 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake View Post
I know this is bumping an ancient thread, but I just found this article on a fitness board and thought I'd share:

http://www.burnthefatblog.com/archiv...os_and_con.php

Quote:
There is no doubt that contestants are losing huge amounts of fat – far above the average, which is usually 1-2 pounds per week. Even obese individuals rarely lose more than 3 pounds of pure fat per week consistently in a real world situation. The results on the show – often 10 pounds a week with 20-25 not uncommon for first and last week - should not be surprising when you calculate the massive caloric deficit achieved from 4-6 hours of daily training and physical activity, combined with low calorie dieting. What many fans seem to ignore is that weight loss is not the same as fat loss. Body weight includes muscle, bones, internal organs, water, glycogen and don’t forget the contents of the digestive tract. The weight loss on The Biggest Loser is deceiving. Much of the loss is water. Many contestants may be losing muscle and other lean tissue. The solution would be simple: judge the competition on body composition, not body weight. Body fat testing is admittedly prone to error, but with the big budget of this show, there’s no reason they couldn’t use gold standard testing methods such as hydrostatic weighing or DEXA scans. They used a Bod Pod in the last episode, but the contest wasn’t judged on the results of those tests (it was more like, “look how fat you are!”) What’s most alarming to me is that because the show is judged on weight loss, not body composition, contestants are penalized for gaining muscle and actually rewarded for losing muscle. Think about that one for a while.
Totally agree with this.
post #16 of 18
Also, the product placement still kills me. "WHY ARE YOU NOT EATING CHEERIOS THEY ARE HIGH IN FIBER" "HERE USE THIS BRITA FILTER IT FILTERS OUT x AMOUNT OF IMPURITIES".

Guess what, lady, it's still fuckin' cereal and who gives a shit what the filter is as long as the water is clean?
post #17 of 18
I think it was Celebrity Fit Club or whatever that show was that actually did body fat composition as part of their scores.
post #18 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by billylove View Post
Totally agree with this.
I agree as well. Last year, I decided to become more active and I started going to my local rec center where I could work out for free. I'd hit the elliptical, exercise bike, and treadmill on different days. My clothes starting to become looser, so I assumed I was doing the right thing. Then I noticed that I was losing muscle. Even though I was eating three healthy square meals a day, my arms started to get a little skinny and you could feel my ribs more prominently. What was weird about it was that I didn't look like an anorexic chick. If I lifted my shirt, you couldn't see any bones protruding, but I could feel them. My shoulder blades starting sticking out a bit, too. I went to my physician to ask him what was up, and I finally figured out that doing a shitload of cardio alone was making me scrawny, not fit, so I started to include strength training, and made sure that I ate more protein in my diet, and had a good protein drink right after a workout to encourage the growth of lean muscle. I am the queen of the medicine ball now, and I rock the resistance bands, too. My weight on the scale went up, but I'm much more toned now, and I feel so much better. The problem is that a lot of people, women particularly, are slaves to the scale. They judge their success on how low their numbers are (weight, clothing size, etc.), and it is dangerous. Thank God I figured that out before I potentially did serious damage.

ETA: And this wasn't some crazy stunt diet that was making me skinny. I was working out for an hour a day, five days a week, losing 1-2lbs a week, so I thought I was doing the right thing.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Television
CHUD.com Community › Forums › SPORTS, GAMES & LEISURE › Television › The Biggest Loser: Healthy?