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Since individual threads about his projects tend to get contentious and, thus, interesting, I thought it might be nice to have a catchall thread where we can debate Grant Morrison's career as a whole.

Me? Love the guy. Really dig about 70-80% of his output, and I can usually respect the intent behind the rest. Plus, there's the insane interviews about trying to awaken the DC Universe into self-awareness, creating a body of work to guide the morality of actual superhumans, and his use of ritual masturbation magick on a mass scale to save one of his books. What's not to love?

My Morrison top 5:

1) Flex Mentallo - Still the perfect blend of his superhero and Vertigo sensibilities and themes (thought parts of Seven Soldiers came close). It's a crime that it's not in print.
2) All-Star Superman - Proof that Superman is a concept that can still work--something I didn't believe prior to the series.
3) Doom Patrol - Probably still my favorite Vertigo series (I know it wasn't Vertigo at the time, but you get my meaning).
4) The Invisibles - One of the books that got me back into reading comics in the late 90s.
5) Kill Your Boyfriend - Simple, kind of dumb, but totally exuberant. Morrison could spend the rest of his career working with nobody but Phillip Bond, Frank Quitely and JH Williams, and you'd never hear a complaint from me.
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I really wish I could read Flex Mentallo. What's the hold up on that one, again? Is it to do with being sued by Charles Atlas or something? Because Flex showed up in Doom Patrol, and that's been reprinted.

I tend to agree with the conventional wisdom that Morrison's limited a bit by how good his artist is. It's not hard for a weak artist to turn his stuff into incomprehensible gibberish (cue snarky comments). This is why I think the Frank Quitely snark in this very forum is off-base; the guy is pretty great at conveying action and body language and clear storytelling. Compare to the work of Andy Kubert, an artist a lot of fanboys would consider "better" in the conventional sense, on the early issues of Morrison's Batman run.

Morrison's other big flaw is that he seems to have problems sticking the landing, though that's sometimes editorial's fault. The final issue of Seven Soldiers was apparently cut down by a significant number of pages, and feels it. (Which begs the question, why not cut some of the padding at the beginning, like the King Arthur stuff, to make room for the climax?) Still, Seven Soldiers is pretty brilliant stuff aside from that one flaw; it's what got me into Morrison in the first place. And on a side note, J. H. Williams' ability to ape all seven of the preceding artists of the series and make it feel organic disturbs and arouses me.
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Originally Posted by The Prankster View Post
I really wish I could read Flex Mentallo. What's the hold up on that one, again? Is it to do with being sued by Charles Atlas or something? Because Flex showed up in Doom Patrol, and that's been reprinted.
If memory serves, they were sued by the Charles Atlas estate after the trade was solicited but before it was actually printed. DC eventually won the case, but the rumor was that they struck a deal with Atlas: don't appeal the decision and we won't reprint the miniseries.

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I tend to agree with the conventional wisdom that Morrison's limited a bit by how good his artist is. It's not hard for a weak artist to turn his stuff into incomprehensible gibberish...
Two words: Igor Kordey.
post #4 of 11
Grant Morrison and J.H. Williams III have done some of my favorite comic work of the last couple of years. Between Morrisons run on Batman and the Seven Soldiers books, they have made magic.
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Morrison has always been considered a genius in my book, but his superhero stuff tends to be hit and miss with me; Animal Man,JLA, WE3, The Invisibles, Batman and Robin, and All Star Superman are fantastic in my opinion, yet his runs on Final Crisis, Batman and "So magneto now has death camps?" New X-men caused me to drop the titles after several issues (In my opinion, I expected JLA Morrison, but I got Doom patrol Morrison).
All Star Superman, WE3 and Animal man alone earn hima spot as one of my favorite writers.
Also, the guy claims he meet pandimensional beings during a drug trip as an insparation, how can you not love that?
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4) The Invisibles - One of the books that got me back into reading comics in the late 90s.
I just started. I bet I will enjoy it till the end. Devin posted something on FB about that beginning (all over again) that made me curious to pick it.
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Joe the Barbarian is pretty damn awesome.
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"So magneto now has death camps?" New X-men caused me to drop the titles after several issues (In my opinion, I expected JLA Morrison, but I got Doom patrol Morrison).
Despite being a DC guy and generally disliking the X-Men, I actually don't care that much for his JLA run but love what he did in New X-Men. I've said this before, but I don't think that team has ever had a better run in terms of the quality and scope of the ideas being presented.

I love his little ideas, like the scene in one of the SS: Bulleteer issues where the titular character walks into a restroom at a superhero convention and stumbles onto what looks like a fellow superheroine shooting up in a stall, but it's actually a shrinking serum which she uses to fit into her purse which turns into a miniature aircraft, allowing her to bail the convention. Love that. If it was a Mark Millar comic it would have actually been heroin and the word "cunt" would probably be thrown around.
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It still blows my mind that Morrison and Millar were writing partners for as long as they were.
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It still blows my mind that Morrison and Millar were writing partners for as long as they were.
Dammed wiki I have an urge to see this

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He has also appeared in an issue of Simpsons Comics, where he is seen fighting with Mark Millar over the title of "Writer of X-Men"
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It still blows my mind that Morrison and Millar were writing partners for as long as they were.
And Alan Moore was a mentor to Garth Ennis. Seems like the same kind of bizarre, odd-couple relationship between a detached, intellectual writer and a snot-nosed provocateur.
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