"Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8"

Richard, why are people batshit crazy and deranged?

"I am a patriotic American christian, so I'm praying for the failure and possible death of the President of the United States because I don't like him."

I just dropped by Bible Gateway and read the Psalm in question in a few different translations. That's.... um. I'm going to go look up some commentary now. Because I have to know.

I don't know what's more upsetting, the idea that these mutants think Obama should die, or the idea that these mutants think that Obama's death would actually solve more problems than it would cause.

"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. You know... morons."

Anyone I know who emails this to me, whether jokingly or not, will get my virtual foot up his/her virtual ass.*




*I haven't exactly worked out all the details yet on how that would happen.

It is simply mind bogling how similar the thinking is between these mouth breathers and the fundamentalist jihadist muslims they so hate and fear.

This sort of stuff is why I worship Kali.

Don't worry about it too much, when it happens, just let it happen naturally.

Ive heard Norse religion is making a comeback...that whole Valhalla afterlife deal seems like one hell of a sales pitch.

Plus, The Norse pantheon is full of batshit insane characters. It's no wonder it was such a natural fit for Marvel.

But I also have high hopes for Tarvuism!

On topic: fuck these people.

I shouldn't be surprised at the hypocrisy of people who do these things but whined about criticism of the scum Bush being unamerican, but surprised I am.

Circle takes the square.

Good link here.

From the article's first comment:

The only difference is motivation. It's hard to get too worked up when you know dinner is taken care of and "Two and a Half Men" is coming on soon. Swap their locations and I'd be willing to bet the geography/money decides who does what.

Exactly Sean, and that was in the back of my mind when I said it. They are these angry raging assholes, who really, in the scope of things have SO little to rage about. But they want to cling to anger and hate non the less.

ETA: I wish Karma was a real thing.

But the "angry raging assholes" living in abject poverty on the other side of the world would likely inhabit the role the "angry (but much better off by virtue of geography) raging assholes" fill here in the States if the world were reversed.

I just think that every society has its fair share of douchey hatemongers, and the lengths they're willing to go to largely depend on what they have to lose. But I'm making a really elementary point here, so I'll shut up.

I believe in Kosugi 19:85.

"...and you will pray for death."

As a believing Christian, let me just say the people who spread this nonsense around are fucked-up.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#34004795
scary stuff

I certainly don't think he should be killed. I don't think he is necessarily evil, but he is a horrible president with no experience and a Socialist agenda for America. IF his policies were to come to fruition, I don't see him as being an iron-fisted dictator, but it certainly leaves the door open for his successor to be one. A small group of people too much power is exactly what is wrong with countries like Cuba, China, North Korea and Venezuela. I don't agree with a few of you on this topic, but dammit, that's America! The very idea of flat-out silencing (or even just censoring) people we don't agree with is WRONG. Sure, Rush and Hannity are wind-bags and Beck is an idea-thieving drama queen. But that's freedom of speech! Turn the channel like I do!
On the whole health-care reform debate, the government is absolutely the last entity you want in charge. They are already showing signs of health-care rationing and getting in the way of the medical breakthroughs that our (admittedly in dire need of fixing) health care system is capable of. Where do you think the money will come from? If your employer has to pay for your health care, the only place it CAN come from is YOUR PAY, which is a new tax we can't afford! Employers won't magically get more money once this gov't takeover is passed, so lay-offs and pay-cuts here we come! I think helping those less fortunate is noble. But no one should be forced to do it. Americans are already the most generous, giving people on the planet (sure, not everyone, but compared to other cultures we certainly are!) We donate more money and time of our own free will than anyone, I dare you to argue that! If I give my time and money, THAT is GIVING. If YOU take my hard-earned money and give it to someone else, that is stealing and wealth redistributing, not charity and certainly not helping. If you believe in helping the poor, why don't you just give yourself instead of having your money be filtered through the bottomless-pit-of-waste that is the United States Government? Would you rather volunteer to feed the hungry or build a Habitat for Humanity house, or be required to?
Is anyone here aware of the 16th amendment to the Constitution? Do you realize that the government is allowed by this amendment to take up to 100% of our incomes? The only reason they don't is because of the revolt that would ensue. But, like the slowly boiling frog, they take a little more, let us adjust to the change, and then take a little more. If only we had the FairTax...(and PLEASE read about the FairTax before you comment that it is a tax increase.) That would truly give power back to the people, which is why the Government fears it. They like perpetuating the notion that the low-income people are "victims" of the wealthy. I'm low income, but I'm not a victim. I have my own damn health insurance, thank you! And I only make $10.50/hr AND have a wife and son. Nobody in this country is a victim, so stop whining and start holding these dangerous bastards accountable for the damage they are causing, and I'm talking about both sides of the aisle. They're all crooks! But they don't deserve to die.
Obama is idealistic. But I don't want a socialist state for my son. If you really, truly want to see Communism from a first-person perspective, read Solzhenitsyn. As it stands now, I disagree with the Democrats' policies and am considered a racist for it. How long until I am an enemy of the state?
I love capitalism and want to one day be rich. Don't we all? Or at least to be able to realize our full potential! I would rather have the chance and squander it than not have it at all!
Just remember: the House, the Senate and the Congress won't be Democrat-run forever. Any power you give them, any freedoms you give up to them, any control over your own life you give them will one day be in the hands of a Republican. It's fucking frightening either way.
Anyway, I wish people would stop saying everyone needs to be assassinated. I'll agree on that.
And Nancy Pelosi is ugly and evil.

hahahahaha

I just had a seizure trying to read that.

Sometimes, LOL just doesn't quite say it.

A moron at my workplace was railing about the fair tax a few months ago at a lunch outing. Of all the dumb bullet points she kept rattling off, she was most fervent about the following, to the point where she started actually banging on the table like Khrushchev:

"All taxes levied on businesses get passed on to the consumer! ALL OF THEM! EVERY PENNY!"

I told her about tax incidence and price elasticity of demand. She never spoke to me again.

I get that a lot at the office, too. I keep telling them that a successful "fair tax" model would require a tremendous amount of faith that businesses would act in a manner heretofore unseen in any way, shape or form.

bennythejew, when your first post on the CHUD messageboards is an idiotic, rambling post like that in the Political Forum, I think it's perfectly appropriate for anyone of us to say you really shouldn't attempt to write anything ever again. You will put your eye out. I guarantee it.

You edited your post to include THAT? I was almost going to kinda stick up for you (misguided though your ideas may be), but that kind of thing is just...well....

Fuck off.

Hilarious troll is hilarious.

Benny, you are being played like a well-worn fiddle. You need to switch news sources. The purpose of scaring people like you into saying stuff like this is to keep the very rich very rich and keep the very powerful corporations in charge. You owe it to yourself and your son to stop listening to/reading/watching right wing propaganda and thereby stop being a tool.

I think we can hold this up as a real example of republican/tea-bag fear. Nobody's calling you racist for disagreeing with Obama, the administration or the government in general. Put the problem is that you raise that fear as valid, and that means that on one level you can't help but like at our current president as an "other," an "alien thing" that is to be feared, if for no other reason then because if he finds out you don't like him for ANY reason, you will be a target, you will be listed as a threat.

Which is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. I mean, where do you get that idea from? How does it even begin to enter your head? What, in your mind, is making it valid? What are you afraid of? That we're going to be a socialist one day? A communist country? Being listed as an enemy of the state? Where do you see those fears materializing in whats going on right now? Where?

Okay, I have different views and okay, my post IS rambling and stream-of-conscious... so the only thing you guys can come up with is derision and put-downs? I asked for it, I guess, but you guys can't honestly believe everything this government spoon-feeds you, can you? They claim to create jobs in congressional districts that don't even exist for crying out loud. They out-right lie and when someone questions them they are right-wing nuts? You guys DO understand the last bit of my post about a Republican having all the power you gave Democrats, right? You DO realize that will happen, don't you? I want that as much as you do! How come everyone who wants Socialism in America isn't just moving to a Socialist country? Michael Moore got rich off of the very capitalism he claims to hate! Disagree with me, but PLEASE tell me there are at least SOME things about their motives you have questions about?
And okay, this isn't the thread to discuss the FairTax. Fair enough.

Redistribution of wealth is a Socialist principle. I'll give if I want to, let that be MY choice. Taking my income to pay for your health care is redistribution of wealth.

Benny, the government is run by us. If we don't like what someone's doing, we can always protest at their offices or vote for someone else. When corporations do ill, and grow so powerful they can own people who are supposed to work for us, and write legislation that benefits them and not us, there's not a damn thing we can do about it. We can't protest on their law; we'll get arrested. We can't vote them out of office--we have no say in private enterprise. And in most cases, we can't take our business elsewhere because their iron grip on legislation ensures there are no competitors.

If you hate "big government" then you must love big corporations because virtually the only entity with even the possibility of stopping them from cheating, gaming the system and bankrolling the talking heads in charge of brainwashing the uninformed is government.

And don't be fooled by "flat tax" or "fair tax" propaganda, unless you're a multi-millionaire, in which case I'd understand why you'd want it. Just like Sarah Palin wanting to end capital gains taxes and the "death tax"--two taxes the millionaires and billionaires in this country have been trying to kill since forever.

Redistribution of wealth is when politicians create loopholes for the very rich and big corporations while raising taxes for people who are not sophisticated enough to find or even qualify for those loopholes, so that all of the wealth can be sucked out of the middle and working classes and to the top 1% of the country, which has been happening since Reagan.

The people who like that and want that are the people who are bankrolling the talking points you seem to have bought. Enjoy.

So, the marginal income tax increases for the wealthy (used to pay for social needs that benefit everyone rich and poor alike) are an inexcusable redistribution of wealth, but the Bush tax policy that used the surplus generated from my tax money to pay for tax cuts for the rich and deficit spending designed to pay for corporate welfare, well that's okay with you? Where was this ideologically incorruptible outrage in 2001? Oh yeah, no-fucking-where. But when Obama does it, its automatically "capital-S" Socialism. Save your flimsy indignation for the other teabaggers.

So, as a society its not in our best interest to help one another out? Only ourselves?

Where did you go to school? Ever go to the library? House ever catch on fire?

I think what's most disturbing is, out of the entire Politics forum, the choice of thread to debut his strong opinions on health care reform, socialism, taxes, etc.

Glad to read that you don't believe the President should be murdered, benny. Good of you to open with that disclaimer.

"I don't think he is necessarily evil, but"

...gives me the willies.

Where was the "big government" outrage when the Bush admin. expanded executive powers to the point of lunacy?

*sigh* Helping people is what we SHOULD do, morally, but NOBODY should be forced to do anything. How is the government taking YOUR money and deciding where it goes helping? Why can't WE decide? We're smart enough!
Yes, I went to public school, but my child goes to private school. Why should my money go to a public school my child doesn't attend? Why do you want my money? You didn't earn it. I don't want yours!
If my house catches on fire, I should have had insurance! If we were allowed to keep ALL of our income, we could actually BUY insurance we need. That is what the FairTax proposes. Is it perfect? No, but it beats income tax. Why don't you guys want to decide how to live your own lives and spend your own money? Why do you think we need a government to tell us how to? The FairTax stops ANY government party from creating loopholes for the wealthy. By the way, you DO realize that "poor" people don't pay ANY income tax, right? They actually MAKE money via the Earned Income Credit. How's that for a fucking loophole?
I'm just wearing the same sourpuss hat you all were wearing during the Bush administration. Guess what? I was wearing it then, too! Bush started this decline, Obama is just perpetuating it!

Would it be okay for the government to take all of our income, as long as everyone has the same amount and no one has more than anyone else? Fuck that, I want to be rich. If you don't want to be, fine, but what right do you have to tell me I can't be, either? Should anyone have that right? You do realize that the vast majority of the "rich" seeing these tax increases are small business owners who have to claim their business's taxes on their personal tax returns, right? A business earning $250,000 a year is not the same as the business owner earning $250,000 a year. The owner might make $60,000. Is it right to consider them "evil rich" and take more of their money? The past few presidents have done one thing, ONE THING remarkably well: Create a horrendous "class war" and create a sense of entitlement among the leaches that do not contribute one iota to American Society. Is it okay for a mother to squirt out babies to stay on welfare? Is it okay for leaches to keep getting TANF checks and not work one stinking day in their lives? NO! I'll help someone interested in bettering themselves, but I refuse to give help to someone who does not deserve it. I watched a young mother the other day at the checkout line at the grocery store. Three kids, one on the way, and she paid with a Lonestar Card (Texas version of food stamps.) She can't afford to pay for food, but she can have babies, GET TATTOOS, and TALK ON AN EXPENSIVE CELL PHONE. I have to pay for that? Do you think that's okay that YOU do? I don't understand the logic. I feel sorry for the children because that hussy is their moral compass. She's the one who's going to teach them about life and do you think she's going to teach them how to be responsible with money? Maybe she'll have an epiphany, but I doubt it.
I am all about helping people. I fucking do it all the time, a lot of times getting burned in the process. But I do believe in giving those who need it, who truly deserve it, a helping hand.

Well, that was different, Ryan, because, um...well, uh...hmmm...SOCIALISM FASCISM COMMUNIST HITLER BIG GOVERNMENT!

Clearly all that money went into keeping us safe. Not stupid things like keeping us healthy.

You forgot "CZARS"!

We can! See: Election Night, 2008.

Some of us are!

That falls under Communism, of course.

But... ... heh

Can you imagine how much "Home Fire Insurance" companies would gouge prices?