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post #1 of 52
11/23/09 at 1:10am
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I had read a lot of great things about Torchlight the past few weeks, and decided to try the demo off Steam today. It's pretty much incredible. Made by some of the original Diablo team, it is absolutely Diablo 2.5. I think Diablo 3 might have it's expectations raised a bit for me. If you spent any amount of time with Diablo, then you'll be right at home.

As for additions that I think make it better than Diablo, first is the pet. You get to choose between a dog or cat for a pet. They will fight along side you, and you can fish and feed the pet the fish you catch to give them different attributes. The pet also has it's own inventory, so you can stack up their inventory, then send them to town to sell everything you've loaded them down with. This lets you keep going through the dungeons without using a town portal over and over.

I also love learning basic spells. Every character can learn four spells, and everyone should learn Heal All and Town Portal. You won't need to carry around TPs anymore, so it clears up inventory, and well a party heal is always good. The other spells are fun. Basic fireballs, frostbolts, summon minions (ghouls, swords, archers) to help.

All the talent trees are really good, and offer a lot of variety. And it doesn't seem like there is a cap on how many points you can put into certain talents. I've put 6 or 7 points in a few really great abilities to buff them up. And the graphics are beautiful. It feels like Diablo with Warcraft art direction. The random dungeons are a great idea. A guy outside town will randomly offer a random dungeon to you, and you can buy scrolls to open a portal to a random dungeon as well. Fame is a great mechanic as well. You gain fame for boss kills and quests, and you earn talent points for fame as well as level gains. And I am in love with the shared chest, so you can put awesome gear you find for other characters into the chest, then come get it with them.

I think the only things I don't love are the fact there is only three classes, but their trees are all so different and and seem to be fun, so that might not be an issue. I've put in about 6 hours, and it looks like the entire game is based out of one town, and while the levels give a few different locales (mine, tribal village, dungeon, lava level, etc) it still feels small to not go to new towns.

Overall though, if you're a Diablo fan, you should buy it. I was expecting to play Dragon Age all day, but after 30 minutes with the demo I bought Torchlight and spent 5 hours on a vanquisher and an hour on a destroyer.
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post #2 of 52
11/23/09 at 3:41am
It's essentially a remake of the first Diablo with its three classes and single town, but it somehow manages to feel fresher than any Diablo clone I've ever played. If one had told me prior to its release that this game would end up as one of my favorites of the year, I would have thought they were crazy. It's really that good, though, and you won't find yourself missing multiplayer at all.
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post #3 of 52
11/23/09 at 5:32am
For any kind of even casual Diablo fan it's a no-brainer actually. But BillyG the skills are actually capped at ten points and the spells at eleven ranks.

Now just how good is Torchlight? Just know that during the past two weeks while I had to put fifty plus hours into Dragon Age I also managed to put another ten in this. The loot game is very addictive. In addition to finding new stuff you can also improve it either with enchanting or by using gems or both. It's pretty long for a twenty dollar game, too. The story dungeon is about seven to eight hours long but you can buy maps to new smaller dungeons from the npcs and once you've finished the story mode a new infinite random dungeon opens up, so you can get to the level 100 cap. And once you get to that you can retire your level 100 character. Then you can choose one item to leave as a heirloom to a new character which also starts with better stats and able to access the infinite dungeon from the beginning. It's pretty ridiculous actually.
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post #4 of 52
11/23/09 at 11:12am
Very fun game, and soothing in the wake of Diablo 3 clearly never fucking coming out.
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post #5 of 52
11/23/09 at 11:22am
I like the shared stash, so if you're playing the warrior type and get a really great magic wand, you can set it aside for your mage character instead of just selling it.

EDIT: Just saw BillyG mentioned this above. I need caffeine.
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post #6 of 52
11/23/09 at 10:25pm
Just read the review on this and it sounds great. But I was curious how different/improved this game is over Fate (a similar diablo clone that also featured pets)?

I'm downloading the demo right now...
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post #7 of 52
11/30/09 at 12:57pm
I never played Fate, but did play Diablo 1 and 2. Torchlight is like Diablo 1, but nearly perfected. It fixes everything I didn't like about Diablo, and it's not perfect but I'd be nitpicking if I started listing the problems.

Part of what makes it work is it's price and depth. If this were a $50+ game I'd say it's lacking a lot. There's no multiplayer, there isn't much depth, only 3 classes and you can finish the game pretty quick. But playing this has made me think back and realize Diablo 1 and 2 were too long. Games like these work extremely well in a reduced format.
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post #8 of 52
12/1/09 at 4:55am
After playing this for almost twenty hours I only have two problems with it. The designers still haven't managed to make getting swarmed by ranged mobs any less annoying and the difficulty curve isn't tuned very well. You can go through a floor without using a single health potion and in the next one you'll die in every other room. And then start clearing floors without problem again.
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post #9 of 52
12/18/09 at 9:23pm
50% off on Steam until Monday.
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post #10 of 52
12/18/09 at 9:26pm
If I buy this I might not get anything done over the holidays. Still gonna buy it.
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post #11 of 52
12/18/09 at 11:16pm
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Originally Posted by blunderbuss View Post
50% off on Steam until Monday.
Ha! Awesome, exactly what i was waiting for! Thanks for the heads up. I've been on and off Steam all day and never saw anything about it.
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post #12 of 52
12/19/09 at 12:46am
Same here. *purchase*
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post #13 of 52
12/19/09 at 1:16am
You had me at the "From the minds behind Diablo I & II" then you add the almost criminal price of $10 to the mix...hello early Christmas present!

I'm sure Diablo III will be nice and all but without the guys who made two of the most addictive dungeon crawl games ever it seems kinda wrong.
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post #14 of 52
12/19/09 at 2:54am
New update has Steam achievements, so there's that.
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post #15 of 52
12/19/09 at 5:41am
Not only achievements but also Steamcloud support. It will synchronize configurations, saves, characters and I think mods across multiple PCs. It's quite awesome actually.
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post #16 of 52
12/19/09 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post
Not only achievements but also Steamcloud support. It will synchronize configurations, saves, characters and I think mods across multiple PCs. It's quite awesome actually.
Will it do this automatically or is there some setting you have to enable?
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post #17 of 52
12/19/09 at 1:04pm
Automatically. When you stop playing it take a look at your games list in Steam. It should say that the game is synching. Once it's done your data is in the cloud and you be able to access it from any PC with Steam installed.
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post #18 of 52
12/19/09 at 2:37pm
Sweet, my laptop can't handle many new games, which is probably why I haven't come across this before.
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post #19 of 52
12/19/09 at 5:09pm
This is truly a gem of an indie game. The graphics, the music and comfortably familiar gameplay blend so well together it's amazing.

I love the pet idea, which was clearly inspired by NetHack. TORCHLIGHT is awesome. Highly recommended!
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post #20 of 52
12/19/09 at 7:32pm
Ten bucks? say hello to a gift from me, to me!
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post #21 of 52
12/20/09 at 2:53am
god why did I download this I need to go to bed fuuuccckkkk
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post #22 of 52
12/20/09 at 3:25am
Come on Jake, just one more level. It's only 15 minutes. You can sleep after that.
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post #23 of 52
12/20/09 at 4:40am
I made my 2nd character-- the girl. Been playing with it for a couple of hours now. Still not great with the ranged attacks. It's pretty tricky to get her to keep RANGE for that RANGED weapon. Diving right into the thick of it isn't the most effective plan.

That said, I do enjoy the shotgun, and the ricochet spell!
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post #24 of 52
12/20/09 at 5:07am
The Alchemist is good with ranged attacks, but it does have minions so that probably helps.
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post #25 of 52
12/20/09 at 11:48am
With the Alchemist the game seems almost a little too easy. I'm around level 16 and am running around with the pet, 3 imps, and a golem. I'll just spam ice attacks and the enemies don't even get a chance to touch me.
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post #26 of 52
12/20/09 at 11:57am
Welcome to the Diablo 2 Necromancer.
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post #27 of 52
12/20/09 at 12:03pm
And I've never played Nethack, but the "load your pet up and send that bitch to town" concept is a godsend.
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post #28 of 52
12/20/09 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post
Welcome to the Diablo 2 Necromancer.
If it weren't for corpse explosion, the D2 Necromancer would have been next to useless. I remember plowing through the first few areas using him as a skeleton summoner, and then the spider woman boss was like FUCK YOUR SKELETONS.
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post #29 of 52
12/20/09 at 1:17pm
Yeah, the Alchemist was my first character, and I guess he's easier for me because I'm always keeping him equipped with a good melee weapon + his magic beamz. Now that I've had a sample of the lady, I'll go back to ol' Grayford the Alchemist for my first run through the game. I like the dog better than the cat I gave her, anyway.
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post #30 of 52
12/20/09 at 2:13pm
His beamz almost make the game too easy. I haven't had any difficulty taking out the unique monsters in some time. Really the main challenge I have right now are enemies that rush me instead of letting my minions distract them.
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post #31 of 52
12/20/09 at 2:41pm
I recommend avoiding Ember Lance. I'm not sure if it was present before the current patch, but there's a bug that cause it to randomly not work and drains your mana anyway. It's a quick road to death and frustration.
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post #32 of 52
12/20/09 at 3:28pm
Now I have an electrified crossbow. Ho ho ho.
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post #33 of 52
12/20/09 at 5:46pm
Bought this to tide me over 'til my new pc arrives. Playing the tank, but my cat summons zombies and skeletal archers, and I'm kicking ass left and right on normal, dual-wielding like a mofo. Simple, addictive, and fun as hell.
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post #34 of 52
12/21/09 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by Bryan Jason View Post
I recommend avoiding Ember Lance. I'm not sure if it was present before the current patch, but there's a bug that cause it to randomly not work and drains your mana anyway. It's a quick road to death and frustration.
No, it works. You just don't see the effect. This also happens with the other particle effects in the game. Flames on the weapons and such. Going through a loading screen usually fixes this.
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post #35 of 52
12/21/09 at 2:47pm
It's worse than that, the enemies aren't taking any damage.
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post #36 of 52
12/21/09 at 3:07pm
Never happened to me.
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post #37 of 52
12/21/09 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by El Gray View Post
I made my 2nd character-- the girl. Been playing with it for a couple of hours now. Still not great with the ranged attacks. It's pretty tricky to get her to keep RANGE for that RANGED weapon. Diving right into the thick of it isn't the most effective plan.

That said, I do enjoy the shotgun, and the ricochet spell!
I am playing the girl (Vanquisher) right now (fond memories of the Amazon from Diablo II), and I have near the top level in Frost Pilum. It just mows through rows of dudes. MOWS. I love that certain ranged weapons have a smaller range than others, it makes it seem more "real" to me that a bow has a less effective range than a gun. I had a sweet-assed rifle that had long range initially, but then I found a blue bow around lv 20 that does 544 DPS:



I am level 25 now and it is still my primary weapon:



I have a few set pieces of armour now too, but I find it's next to impossible to collect more than 1 piece from a given set?? I also found a sword that talks (when you click on it and when it is weilded) and has very ridiculous benefits:



Saving this one for my warrior when I make one. I am tempted to buy the game again through Steam despite already owning a copy (directly from the publisher) just so that I can get the achivements :P I too love that you can save weapons in a shared stash, it's like buying heirloom gear in WoW without the ridiculously expensive cost. Also, gambling for gear and doing the Enchantment gamble (lost a chest piece that way). Also, teaching your pet spells. I gave him the Summon Skeletons spell so I too can pretend to be the Necromancer from Diablo II. Even in Lego form, that guy kicks ass:

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post #38 of 52
12/21/09 at 4:57pm
Also, holy shit: mods.
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post #39 of 52
12/21/09 at 6:12pm
went with a Vanquisher; dual gun wielding and a kick ass shotgun early ensured I'll be playing this for a long time.
And the pet and shared chest idea is fuckin genius.

PS: its been ages since ive played a diablo style game, but gold getting picked automaticlly is a godsend...for an old guy like me, at least.
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post #40 of 52
12/21/09 at 6:26pm
Got the Demo, played for five minutes, downloaded full game.

I hate and love you guys sometimes (I've ONLY just got over Plants vs. Zombies and Peggle).
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post #41 of 52
12/22/09 at 1:56am
OH! So the shared chest in town is shared between characters? I had not investigated it. That is great!
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post #42 of 52
12/22/09 at 4:16am
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Originally Posted by El Gray View Post
OH! So the shared chest in town is shared between characters? I had not investigated it. That is great!
Ayup. I have 7 gold items and several set pieces saved for future characters, along with lower-level gems. It beats vendoring things given how little gold you get from selling VS how much the vendors charge to buy new things :/ I can't complain too much. Wonder Bow only cost just over 4 grand, and gold does seem to be plentiful in Normal difficulty.
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post #43 of 52
6/28/10 at 6:38pm
This is 50% off again, looks like I'm going to have to buy the hell out of it
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post #44 of 52
6/28/10 at 6:45pm
I should probably reinstall this on my laptop since I don't really have many other gaming options right now (bored with everything else).
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post #45 of 52
6/30/10 at 3:00pm
$5 again on Steam today! Get it if'n ya ain't got it!
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post #46 of 52
8/5/10 at 2:32am
Torchlight II announced... with online co-op. Awwwyeahhh.
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post #47 of 52
8/5/10 at 2:56am
That should tide over the wait for Diablo 3 nicely.

Unless it isn't coming out for another 7 years like Diablo. Then, shit.
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post #48 of 52
8/5/10 at 4:08am
It's coming out March '11 I think. Bring it on.
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post #49 of 52
8/5/10 at 4:37am

Gems

I have just gotten into playing this again, and the addictiveness is so bad I can see me playing multiple versions of the same class to try out different skill builds. I do wish I could reset my points because some I think may have been placed wrong (Adventurer Skill), but now that I now 100 is the max level I might be wrong.

I have just been buying and combining gems to their core state and just collecting them. I just need to find more skulls for my Destroyer.
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post #50 of 52
8/5/10 at 5:12am
The vendors sell respec potions now.
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