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post #501 of 522

Colorado stands up:

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-climatechange-colorado-idUSKBN19W2UH

 

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Colorado's governor signed an executive order on Tuesday making his state the latest to join a "climate alliance" of U.S. states and governors seeking to meet the goals of the Paris accord after President Donald Trump's decision to pull out of the pact.

 

The order calls for Colorado to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by more than 26 percent from 2005 by 2025 and lower carbon emissions from the electricity sector by 25 percent, among other goals.

 

"Coloradans value clean air and clean water," Democratic Governor John Hickenlooper said in a written statement. "Our strong economy is a reflection of how our exhilarating outdoors attracts young entrepreneurs and the talent they need for their businesses. 

 

"The vast majority of our residents, and indeed the country, expect us to help lead the way toward a clean and affordable energy future. In this process, we no doubt can address climate change while keeping a priority on household budgets."

 

California Governor Jerry Brown, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and Washington State Governor Jay Inslee in June announced the creation of the climate alliance, seeking to claim the mantle of U.S. leadership in fighting global warming. 

post #502 of 522

Rick Perry commissions grid study proving the value of coal and nuclear energy. Study tells him he's full of shit - https://thinkprogress.org/draft-doe-study-bombshell-9221a62afefd 

 

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On Saturday, we reported that a leaked draft of Energy Secretary Rick Perry’s grid study obtained by Bloomberg debunks his attack on renewable energy.

 

ThinkProgress has now obtained a copy of that draft, and it has many more surprises?—?or, rather, findings that are fairly well known to energy experts but may come as an unpleasant surprise to Perry and the White House. For instance, a large fraction of America’s aging fleet of coal and nuclear plants are simply not economic to operate anymore.

post #503 of 522

Wow.  This is funny because the Australian government commissioned what would be called the Finkel Report on similar things, to figure out what to do about our gold plated grid and its gold plated costs  (our electricity is like US healthcare with shades of Enron running Californian power), but that keeps falling over in times of crisis (problems fraudulently blamed on renewables).

 

They were hoping that it would vindicate a mixed solution with modest renewable development as these things have a long way to go before they are ready for prime time (Australia being one of the largest coal producers in the world is planning to... well, buy it all ourselves when everyone else stops using it I guess).

 

Instead the report said basically; go all out for wind and solar by yesterday and here's the numbers to prove it.

 

Those interested should keep an eye on us, actually. The pollies are leaning so hard into coal production and export that they have lost all pretense of detachment.  The corruption, both literal and metaphorical, is now obvious.  The public is dead against it and while the government flail they are adopting solar power in astonishing numbers.  It's tearing the Liberal (read: conservative) party apart, so while old power brokers hold the reins still in the party and generally get their way, even if they win they'll lose.

 

Unfortunately, as one of the larger coal producers gradually collapses in a heap over this subject it might even help Trump's thing about returning coal jobs to miners at first.  But then our battle will become yours (worse though, since it's not going happen within the conservative party to the same degree)

post #504 of 522

The sea level is rising faster in the Southeast - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/09/climate/the-sea-level-did-in-fact-rise-faster-in-the-southeast-us.html

Somebody needs to make a compilation of articles like these and clips of the Trump Administration and overlay Bocephus' "If The South Woulda Won" over it.

post #505 of 522

We're sorta used to this in the Central Valley, but the people in SF were probably losing their minds....

 

 

San Francisco hits 106 degrees — shatters all-time record

 

 

FWIW- the avg. temp in SF in August is 68°

post #506 of 522

Climate change relevent research continuing while being asked not to mention it.

 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/nidhisubbaraman/doe-grant-climate-change-censor?utm_term=.lkrK5EGMv#.noBwEDxr0

post #507 of 522
Due to wildfires in central Washington I woke up this morning to yellow/grey skies, a red sun, and ash falling like snow. It's not Hell but it feels like Hell's waiting room outside.
post #508 of 522
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Originally Posted by Jmurdoch View Post

Due to wildfires in central Washington I woke up this morning to yellow/grey skies, a red sun, and ash falling like snow. It's not Hell but it feels like Hell's waiting room outside.

Sounds spooky as heck JM.

Get any pics?
post #509 of 522
No pics, I should have taken some though. Lots of people comparing the feel to Silent Hill.
post #510 of 522
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Originally Posted by Jmurdoch View Post

No pics, I should have taken some though. Lots of people comparing the feel to Silent Hill.

What a tease!!!

Hope you and your loved ones are safe though man, that's scary stuff.
post #511 of 522

I was reading a bit about those fires and the ones in Burbank and thinking the importation of the Australian experience might be a little too new for some folks.  So much so that we might find more suspicious types trashing the local Outback Steakhouse.

post #512 of 522
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Originally Posted by Muzman View Post

I was reading a bit about those fires and the ones in Burbank and thinking the importation of the Australian experience might be a little too new for some folks.  So much so that we might find more suspicious types trashing the local Outback Steakhouse.

Not sure there's a whole lot new about it Muz, they've had wildfires on the West Coast of the US forever.
post #513 of 522

Yeah.  They are saying 'Biggest Ever!' a lot though  and the evacuations are fairly significant.  But these are the days of hype if ever there were any.

post #514 of 522
I haven't looked at the figures properly but the intensity of all these extreme weather phenomena does seem to be rising for sure. They've had an uptick in large-scale burns in Europe this season too.

And I wouldn't be surprised if there are Aussie bushfire specialists in the US right now, involved in the operations.
post #515 of 522

Meanwhile, in 'Straya

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/sep/06/barnaby-joyce-says-charitable-status-helping-green-groups-destroy-the-economy 

 

Translated: "Fucken Greens are fucken stopping us digging up all the fucken coal we want and all them other fucken minerals and shit like uranium and making lots of fucken money so fuck em because fucken money is all that fucken matters fuck the fucken planet its fucken fake fucken news fucken anyway"*

 

* I've omitted the obligatory "ya cunt" at the end so as not to offend

post #516 of 522
One of my chickens died today. She was older. I'm pretty sure the heat combined with the smoke in the air is what contributed to her death.
post #517 of 522
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Originally Posted by Jmurdoch View Post

One of my chickens died today. She was older. I'm pretty sure the heat combined with the smoke in the air is what contributed to her death.

 

Did she leave a note?

post #518 of 522
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Originally Posted by Dr Vivisector View Post

Did she leave a note?

She had been acting distant lately but...HEY!
post #519 of 522
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Originally Posted by Muzman View Post
 

Yeah.  They are saying 'Biggest Ever!' a lot though  and the evacuations are fairly significant.  But these are the days of hype if ever there were any.

The La Tuna fire is the biggest ever within the Los Angeles city limits, at ~7200 acres.

 

The 2003 Simi fire was >100,000 acres.

 

The 2013 Springs Fire was 24,000 acres.

 

We know wildfires in SoCal.

 

Of course, this is only the start of wildfire season and thanks to those drought-busting storms this past winter there's tons of brand new vegetation to burn, so it's probably gonna get real bad before it's over.

post #520 of 522
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Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post

 

Of course, this is only the start of wildfire season and thanks to those drought-busting storms this past winter there's tons of brand new vegetation to burn, so it's probably gonna get real bad before it's over

 

And what effect will this have on building/habitation patterns or efforts to change the disastrous many-decades-long-policy of suppressing every small fire so that we can be primed for super-infernos that demolish entire regions?  

 

Bold prediction:  absolutely none.  

post #521 of 522

Small brush fires turn into big brush fires, dude. Not stopping them as soon as possible doesn't magically make next year's wildfire season less bad. The brush comes back in a matter of months (provided that there isn't a years long severe drought). Most of the plant life in Southern California has actually evolved specifically for seasonal burns. I mean, despite the 100,000+ acres that burned in the Simi fire, it only did ~$10 million in property damage. La Tuna only destroyed 10 buildings (and at least some of them it was the owner's fault for not clearing their brush).

 

Forest fires are a different thing altogether, and it's the droughts, not the storms, that have made them so much worse since there's millions of dry trees just waiting to go up. Where before a small forest fire would burn up the dead wood and leave the healthy trees, now there's so much dead wood that the fires burn hot enough to burn the healthy trees too.

post #522 of 522

Northern Alaska is warming so fast, a computer algorithm thought the weather station was malfunctioning:

 

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/beyond-data/alaskan-north-slope-climate-change-just-outran-one-our-tools-measure

 

Quote:

On December 4th, the folks in the Climate Monitoring group at the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) did what we do pretty much every 4th of the month: we processed the previous month's data to prepare our initial US climate report. The data from Utqiaġvik, Alaska, was missing, which was odd. It was also missing for all of 2017 and the last few months of 2016. This was even weirder, because we knew we’d kinda marveled at how insanely warm the station had been for several weeks and months during 2017.

What happened?

The short version: in an ironic exclamation point to swift regional climate change in and near the Arctic, the average temperature observed at the weather station at Utqiaġvik has now changed so rapidly that it triggered an algorithm designed to detect artificial changes in a station’s instrumentation or environment and disqualified itself from the NCEI Alaskan temperature analysis, leaving northern Alaska analyzed a little cooler than it really was.

 

It's a good thing climate change is fake news, or that'd be pretty scary.

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