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post #51 of 84
12/2/09 at 7:12pm
CTRL+F Phil!
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post #52 of 84
12/2/09 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
From what I understand, many hoarders are anything BUT lazy. Some literally spend all of their 'free' time sorting and organizing their hoard to the point of exhaustion.
Definitely, there are those that are meticulous about their hoarding and collecting. There are also those like my grandparents that did it out of pure laziness, and my aunt who obviously had a screw loose that something in the pile of grime was the holy grail, but had no idea what the mounds of trash were comprised of.
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post #53 of 84
12/2/09 at 7:40pm
For some older people you could make the argument that their hoarding is a byproduct of growing up in the depression era, but that's not true for all cases and certainly not for anyone born after 1932.
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post #54 of 84
12/2/09 at 7:49pm
The premiere was the first episode of the show I've seen where the hoarder just kinda came off as being lazy and gross. The show usually presents it as some specific psychological/emotional trauma that caused or at least dramatically exacerbated the subject's OCD, and you feel bad for them. Not so this time. They never addressed any potential causes, she just seemed like a lazy, cranky old lady living in a horrific pile of garbage.

Despite her being less sympathetic than some other subjects, I found it to be a particularly tragic, depressing episode. Aside from how terrible her place was I think a lot of that came from her son reflecting on it and saying that, despite their efforts to help her clean up and change her ways, she'd probably end up dying alone in her mess.

This show and Intervention are my Monday nights. It's not necessarily about feeling better about myself either, it's just fascinating to see how crazy/out of control people can get.
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post #55 of 84
12/2/09 at 8:33pm
The saddest part about this show (and Intervention) is how complacent the family members are. I have a crazy family, so I know how difficult is to not get sucked into these people's worlds. You feel like you can save them, but you only end up enabling them. I saw a woman on Intervention who's sole job was to meter out alcohol to her daughter, who had been kicked out of her home by her husband and wasn't allowed to see her two young daughters. It was just a sick relationship where the mom felt guilty for something that happened to her daughter 20 years ago and felt like she owed her. And whenever the mom had had enough and tried to kick her out, the daughter pushed her buttons. I'm emotionally unable to watch these shows. It's too heartbreaking.
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post #56 of 84
12/2/09 at 9:48pm
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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
I can tolerate watching a lot of disgusting things on TV, but I can't stomach this show.
I feel the same way. I'm not a person who gets "depressed" over a TV show, but god, the first couple of times I watched this, I was bummed out for the rest of the evening. I haven't watched it since.
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post #57 of 84
12/2/09 at 10:48pm
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I've heard of something like that happening, but I always thought it was some sort of "urban legend". The irony of people being crushed under the weight of their own material objects is too perfect to have happened. But with all the weird shit in this world, someone being flattened by 45,000 ketchup packets they keep in their living room doesn't seem all that unrealistic.
Read the links posted to the Collyer Brothers wiki. That's how one of them died...crawling through a newspaper tunnel, bringing food to his blind and paralyzed brother. The tunnel collapsed, and eventually the other brother died of starvation.

Yikes.
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post #58 of 84
12/2/09 at 10:49pm
And they found the guy who died second first. The first, crushed one, turned up later, like those dead cats y'all are talking about.
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post #59 of 84
12/2/09 at 11:20pm
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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
The saddest part about this show (and Intervention) is how complacent the family members are. I have a crazy family, so I know how difficult is to not get sucked into these people's worlds. You feel like you can save them, but you only end up enabling them.
I don't think it's quite fair to call them complacent. Exhausted? Most definitely. At the end of their ropes? Yep. Mental health care in the US sucks. I won't go into too much detail but growing up we had my mom institutionalized 7 times in 10 years. She get on her meds, be fine for awhile, then stop taking her meds and go down the crazy path. Nothing we did could get her to keep taking her meds either. Most of these people probably had help from their family members then they ended up giving up after realizing there was nothing that could be done. It is indeed sad and disturbing to watch.
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post #60 of 84
12/8/09 at 12:22am
The GOATS ATE THROUGH HER WALL

A ONE FOOT LAYER OF FECES THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE
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post #61 of 84
12/8/09 at 1:39am
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Oh. Oh my. I so can not wait to dig into my DVR.
By the way, how is it you can type in all caps? Mine get edited when I do that.
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post #62 of 84
12/8/09 at 1:47am
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By the way, how is it you can type in all caps? Mine get edited when I do that.
Me too. I thought I was going insane.
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post #63 of 84
12/8/09 at 1:51am
The "The" at the beginning is normal. As long as a few characters a lower case, you can type the rest in all caps.
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post #64 of 84
12/8/09 at 1:09pm
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A ONE FOOT LAYER OF FECES THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE
Did you see the room of spent diapers?
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post #65 of 84
12/8/09 at 1:58pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
The "The" at the beginning is normal. As long as a few characters a lower case, you can type the rest in all caps.
congrats?
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post #66 of 84
12/8/09 at 3:51pm
Just what part of the brain has to turn off before one considers walking on feces normal and acceptable in their everyday lives?

I mean, I understand these people are sick, but doesn't their most basic surivial instincts tell them that a bag of used diapers with dripping poop sitting right next to where they sleep and eat is not healthy?

That woman last night who sleeps on her toilet is one of the worse I've seen on this show. Strapping yourself in to sleep on the can can't be good for the back.
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post #67 of 84
12/8/09 at 3:55pm
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Originally Posted by Deanburger View Post
congrats?
You mean on answering a question someone actually asked? Okay, I'll take it.
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post #68 of 84
12/8/09 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
You mean on answering a question someone actually asked? Okay, I'll take it.
no the congrats was for cracking the code on how to post like an excitable 10 year old
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post #69 of 84
12/8/09 at 4:54pm
Huh. The person who can't use punctuation or capitalize comparing Phil to an excitable 10 year old.
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post #70 of 84
12/8/09 at 4:55pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Deanburger View Post
no the congrats was for cracking the code on how to post like an excitable 10 year old
This is wonderful when delivered by a person who doesn't understand how to capitalize words properly, or use punctuation. I think he's just anti-caps.

ETA: HBarr beat me to it.
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post #71 of 84
12/8/09 at 4:56pm
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Originally Posted by Imperator GAC View Post
Just what part of the brain has to turn off before one considers walking on feces normal and acceptable in their everyday lives?

I mean, I understand these people are sick, but doesn't their most basic surivial instincts tell them that a bag of used diapers with dripping poop sitting right next to where they sleep and eat is not healthy?

That woman last night who sleeps on her toilet is one of the worse I've seen on this show. Strapping yourself in to sleep on the can can't be good for the back.
I thought last week's episode was the worst this show could ever get but this week just beat that in depravity. I was thinking the same thing as you on this. On some level I can understand how you can let a house go. This, I have no frame of reference for at all. I cannot imagine getting to the point where it's okay to wear adult diapers and even worse, keeping them in your home when you're done with them.

Also, what was that about a 1 foot layer of feces on the floor? Is that solid feces or feces in the diapers? Not that one is much better than the other but damn.....

I'm going to have some nice nightmares tonight.
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post #72 of 84
12/8/09 at 4:57pm
"Somewhere between an excitable 10 year old and a racist, creepy old man...is Phil."

Phil - the new film from Nancy Myers.

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On some level I can understand how you can let a house go inside a goat's stomach.
Sorry, I can't.
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post #73 of 84
12/8/09 at 5:03pm
Can you imagine being the person for this show who goes and finds these people? "Well ma'am, yes, that's an incredibly tall pile of newspapers, but it's no room full of diapers. We'll pass."
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post #74 of 84
12/8/09 at 5:04pm
Pretty sure it was foot high piles of feces-filled bags and diapers, not a literal one foot layer of straight feces on the ground.

And I guess you really can't underestimate the part about these people being sick, plus the shame and humiliation that comes with it and keeps compounding as the problem gets worse. One of those vicious cycles everyone's always talking about. That was probably the saddest/scariest part of last night's episode; at one point she said something like "I'm a college educated woman, I know this is unhealthy." But she still couldn't help it, it's not always a question of being intelligent and rational. As opposed to the woman last week who just seemed lazy.
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post #75 of 84
12/8/09 at 5:06pm
I wonder if the cleaning crew drew straws for diaper duty.
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post #76 of 84
12/8/09 at 5:12pm
I loved the one head organizer guy's frank, grim little briefing to the crew, which was basically like "Yeah, there's poop everywhere in there. But there's also going to be valuable stuff that she wants to keep. It's just, uh, under layers of poop. So... have at it!"
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post #77 of 84
12/8/09 at 5:14pm
I'm disgusted yet intrigued. What's the name of the episode? I tried to find it on the website, but the episode guide did not list "ONE FOOT PILE OF FECES" in any of its descriptions.
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post #78 of 84
12/8/09 at 5:18pm
"Judi and Gail"
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post #79 of 84
12/8/09 at 5:21pm
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Originally Posted by Dan Benenson View Post
"Judi and Gail"
The most disgusting road movie ever. "Under the shit-filled diapers, behind the goat-chewed walls, they found...each other." The new film from Nancy Myers.
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post #80 of 84
12/8/09 at 5:36pm
This is turning into quite a prolific period in Nancy Myers' career
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post #81 of 84
12/8/09 at 5:38pm
I, quite literally, smell some cross franchise promotion. Phil meets Judi and Gail, the best of both worlds.
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post #82 of 84
12/8/09 at 5:51pm
The prospect of an older woman shitting in a diaper and throwing it in a pile of other used diapers becomes downright charming and palatable when it's being filmed by Nancy Myers and the woman in question is Diane Keaton. Throw in a creepy racist old man with the heart of an excitable 10 year old - maybe played by Pacino! Godfather cast reunion! - and you've got guaranteed box office gold. Toss some 60s classics in the trailers in the baby boomers will be climbing over each other to line up at the theater.
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post #83 of 84
12/10/09 at 8:26pm
Yeah, so I was cleaning out my computer and found some cell phone pics that my brother sent me of my mom's old place circa 2005. There are several pics, but here's one as you get the gist of the theme:



Our home was never this messy while we were growing up, though it was never spotless, but I guess my mom went nuts after we both flew the coop. After moving to NY when I turned 18, I've never went back to FL so I have no idea what her place looks like now.

One thing I'll say about my mom is that while she has always been "messy", she was never dirty. You won't find food and poop lying around. She just collects massive and massive amounts of stuff that she claims she'll someday use, but never does.
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post #84 of 84
5/31/10 at 2:10pm
A&E is having a marathon. The thunderous rumble they add when a pile of junk collapses is epic.
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