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This Adam Lambert Bullshit

post #1 of 37
12/3/09 at 1:16pm
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Okay, maybe he went over the line, but the fallout is getting out of hand.

ABC Drops Adam Lambert ... Again!
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post #2 of 37
12/3/09 at 1:18pm
The depressing thing is that nobody is talking about how horrible the song is in the first place.
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post #3 of 37
12/3/09 at 1:34pm
Wait, what is all this? Who is he?
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post #4 of 37
12/3/09 at 1:34pm
People only want to see gay kissing when it's Britney and Madonna.
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post #5 of 37
12/3/09 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
The depressing thing is that nobody is talking about how horrible the song is in the first place.
This.

Has there been an interesting mainstream gay artist in the last decade? Rufus Wainwright, maybe?
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post #6 of 37
12/3/09 at 1:54pm
And Brokencyde. And Fall Out Boy.
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post #7 of 37
12/3/09 at 1:54pm
I wouldn't call him mainstream but yeah Rufus. Melissa Etheridge maybe? Nah. She was 90s.
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post #8 of 37
12/3/09 at 2:00pm
Rufus Wainwright's gay? Huh. Whaddyaknow.
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post #9 of 37
12/3/09 at 2:01pm
Scissor Sisters?
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post #10 of 37
12/3/09 at 2:05pm
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His performance of it at the AMAs was meh (which he cops to), but I like the song okay. Fever and Whattya Want from Me are pretty decent pop songs as well.
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post #11 of 37
12/3/09 at 2:10pm
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And Brokencyde. And Fall Out Boy.
I should've stated an openly gay artist...plus I did say interesting. That should DQ both of those artists.
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post #12 of 37
12/3/09 at 2:27pm
Adam does best when he's constrained by certain parameters (like on American Idol). When left to his own devices, he just goes way over the top. I'd still like to see him do an album of Guns-N-Roses covers. He'd kick all kinds of ass.
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post #13 of 37
12/3/09 at 2:32pm
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Originally Posted by Ryan S~ View Post
This.

Has there been an interesting mainstream gay artist in the last decade? Rufus Wainwright, maybe?
Mika and the Scissor Sisters.
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post #14 of 37
12/3/09 at 2:38pm
Mika is apparently a bisexual. He's into fucking anything. Or so he said. He doesn't want to be labeled.
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post #15 of 37
12/3/09 at 2:42pm
The lead singer of Bloc Party is as well, well judging from some interviews and some of the lyrics to their songs.
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post #16 of 37
12/3/09 at 2:53pm
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In case anyone missed it...

CBS Blurs Adam Lambert Gay Kiss, Shows Madonna-Britney Kiss On "Early Show" (VIDEO)
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post #17 of 37
12/3/09 at 2:56pm
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Originally Posted by CaptainZahn View Post
wtf.

I didn't even know about this. Absolutely retarded double-standard, though.
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post #18 of 37
12/3/09 at 2:57pm
Que James Brown......."This is a man's world".....
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post #19 of 37
12/3/09 at 8:38pm
Oh you wacky yanks and your knee jerk puritan double standards. It's just so quaint.

...and nice to see a bit of Rufus love - god damn I heart that guy.
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post #20 of 37
12/3/09 at 9:00pm
Final Fantasy is gay, but I guess he's not very famous, unfortunately. Or fortunately? I dunno, some of his records are good.

Adam Lambert is a bizarre phenomenon because he has a stupid name, (imagine - David Robert Jones and the Spiders from Mars!) and some of the women I know see him as a kind of sex symbol and he's a homosexual. Fuck, I just can't win with women!
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post #21 of 37
12/3/09 at 9:04pm
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Originally Posted by dreary louse View Post
Final Fantasy is gay, but I guess he's not very famous, unfortunately. Or fortunately? I dunno, some of his records are good.
Yeah Pallett is great, he could be a great crossover artist if he got the airplay because his songs are utterly pop, but he'll never get the airplay due to how weird his style and lyrics are.

I've also heard that Beirut's Zach Condon is either gay or Bi
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post #22 of 37
12/3/09 at 9:16pm
There's one word to describe this behavior by ABC:

Chickenshit

I must admit Lambert is pretty much on the money with the reasoning behind all of this.

I know Brian Molko of Placebo is bi.
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post #23 of 37
12/3/09 at 9:39pm
I have to admit to knowing next to nothing about him or American idol, and I've seen only stills of his performance, but I am amused by the outrage and hope it continues. Double standards FTW!
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post #24 of 37
12/3/09 at 9:49pm
This all could have been prevented if the same people that are complaining about him didn't keep voting for him to stay on American Idol.
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post #25 of 37
12/3/09 at 10:34pm
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post
Yeah Pallett is great, he could be a great crossover artist if he got the airplay because his songs are utterly pop, but he'll never get the airplay due to how weird his style and lyrics are.
Live, his two-piece band sounds reminiscent of John Cale's Paris 1919 album, another pop album which sounds ALMOST like it could be one of those rare hits that are a bit strange.
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post #26 of 37
12/4/09 at 1:43am
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Originally Posted by Ryan S~ View Post
This.

Has there been an interesting mainstream gay artist in the last decade? Rufus Wainwright, maybe?
Didn't one of the guys from N*SYNC come out a while back? But you did say interesting, so....

Otep's a lesbian, but thats all I got.
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post #27 of 37
12/4/09 at 2:02am
This really is silly, and is distracting everyone from the best part of the performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu3_Cwv6_LQ. Look how fast he recovers and goes right back into terrifying middle America!
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post #28 of 37
12/4/09 at 5:23am
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Originally Posted by dreary louse View Post
Live, his two-piece band sounds reminiscent of John Cale's Paris 1919 album, another pop album which sounds ALMOST like it could be one of those rare hits that are a bit strange.
I'll have to look into that album. Is he touring with someone else now? When I saw him a few years back it was just him and a projectionist and he was playing all the parts of the songs himself.
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post #29 of 37
12/4/09 at 10:48am
Rain Dog, are you hoping we'll all forget that Australia shits itself and outright bans anything with blood in it if you act smug enough? Because it probably won't work.
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post #30 of 37
12/4/09 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post
I'll have to look into that album. Is he touring with someone else now? When I saw him a few years back it was just him and a projectionist and he was playing all the parts of the songs himself.
There's a drummer now. One of the better shows I saw this year, just had a shitty opening act.
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post #31 of 37
12/5/09 at 9:02am
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette View Post
Rain Dog, are you hoping we'll all forget that Australia shits itself and outright bans anything with blood in it if you act smug enough? Because it probably won't work.
Jesus Brad, what gay scene are you a part of exactly?
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post #32 of 37
12/5/09 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
There's one word to describe this behavior by ABC:

Chickenshit

I must admit Lambert is pretty much on the money with the reasoning behind all of this.
I think I have to disagree with you on that one. Lambert got booked for the gig, fully rehearsed a completely different act, and then sandbagged ABC on live television. You can do that stuff when you're the Stones, but not when you're this guy. He should have had better management that sat him down before and said, "If you do this, networks won't trust you on live television, and there's a good chance this could hurt you." Maybe Lambert and Dice Clay should get together and trade war stories.
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post #33 of 37
12/5/09 at 1:19pm
Gotta agree with matches here. The outcry is ridiculous, to be sure. That Lambert pulled the switcheroo on ABC and then is surprised that networks are distancing themselves is naive at best.

Like it or not, pissing off the decision-makers that make your career and earning potential possible is not a recipe for success.
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post #34 of 37
12/5/09 at 3:41pm
I also agree with matches. The other thing you have to consider with this guy is that, outside of outright denying it, he distanced himself from his sexual identity as far as he could on his AI run because he and his people feared coming across as "too gay." Then, when he pulls a ridiculously fucking dumb move like this in the hope of causing controversy, he has absolutely no problem playing the gay discrimination card. When you're a member of a minority and you only pay lip service to that minority's civil rights struggle to cover your ass when you do something stupid, no matter how blatantly homophobic the other party in the argument is, I think it's fair to say you're the least class person in the situation.
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post #35 of 37
12/7/09 at 10:40pm
I dunno about that, some gay people are just gayer than other gay people. If I'm wrong about this, sure, call me out on it by all means, but I've definitely known some gay people who were not confused at all with being gay or not, but didn't seem very gay just because they didn't 'act gay' so much. I don't think it's my place as a straight male to decide when they should think it's appropriate to be sexual with each other, it doesn't concern me. Did Madonna run into much difficulty when she did her lesbian kiss? No. But yeah, both these artists make shitty music anyway.
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post #36 of 37
12/7/09 at 11:06pm
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Originally Posted by matches View Post
I think I have to disagree with you on that one. Lambert got booked for the gig, fully rehearsed a completely different act, and then sandbagged ABC on live television.
What? There's video footage of him rehearsing this very act all over the web. Where'd you hear the switcheroo story from?
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post #37 of 37
12/8/09 at 11:55am
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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
What? There's video footage of him rehearsing this very act all over the web. Where'd you hear the switcheroo story from?
ABC. Sounds like ABC changed their story after the broadcast and saw middle America's reaction.
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