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post #101 of 128
2/3/10 at 1:10pm
Good. Fuck Bayh.
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post #102 of 128
2/3/10 at 1:10pm
The health care plan that Rahm "Josh Lyman" Emmanuel blasted as fucking retarded could have been referring to his belief that the bill would actually retard the intended results, rather than improve them. Saying something is retarded doesn't necessarily refer to to its state of psychological development. An inanimate object, a bill, a plan -- these things can be retarded without being offensive.

Now, if Rahm had called the people supporting the plan fucking retarded, then you'd have an argument.
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post #103 of 128
2/3/10 at 1:18pm
I am shocked, shocked to learn that government officials use coarse language behind closed doors!
Fuck Sarah Palin, such a retarded cunt.
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post #104 of 128
2/3/10 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by RathBandu View Post
The health care plan that Rahm "Josh Lyman" Emmanuel blasted as fucking retarded could have been referring to his belief that the bill would actually retard the intended results, rather than improve them. Saying something is retarded doesn't necessarily refer to to its state of psychological development. An inanimate object, a bill, a plan -- these things can be retarded without being offensive.

Now, if Rahm had called the people supporting the plan fucking retarded, then you'd have an argument.
The plan he blasted was not the health care bill. It was the plan of progressive activists to run ads against the moderate and conservative Democrats who hadn't come on board with the more progressive health care proposals.
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post #105 of 128
2/3/10 at 1:26pm
Yeah, I made a mistake. He still could have been using retarded properly.
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post #106 of 128
2/3/10 at 1:46pm
I don't care if he called them all retarded nigger spic faggots. It wasn't part of a public speech or press quote or whatever. It was said behind closed doors while trying to get shit done. If that evil cuntmonster Palin is going to drag petty shit like this out into the light to stoke outrage, she needs to be put down like the vicious dog she is. It's the kind of P.C. meddling that the right is supposed to abhor.
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post #107 of 128
2/3/10 at 1:52pm
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I don't care if he called them all retarded nigger spic faggots. It wasn't part of a public speech or press quote or whatever. It was said behind closed doors while trying to get shit done. If that evil cuntmonster Palin is going to drag petty shit like this out into the light to stoke outrage, she needs to be put down like the vicious dog she is. It's the kind of P.C. meddling that the right is supposed to abhor.
Wow. Maybe BobClark is Rahm Emanuel.
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post #108 of 128
2/3/10 at 1:52pm
I'm just disappointed he couldn't come up with anything more creative than "fucking retarded."
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post #109 of 128
2/3/10 at 1:56pm
Don't be retarded, JVC.
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post #110 of 128
2/3/10 at 2:13pm
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post #111 of 128
2/3/10 at 3:38pm
That's outrageous. I can't believe that Rahm Emanuel would be so insulting to the handicapped and mentally disabled that he compares them to politicians.
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post #112 of 128
2/3/10 at 4:31pm
Palin supported Bush and torture, so anything that makes her unhappy is okay by me. Perhaps she'll fall into despair and commit suicide.
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post #113 of 128
2/3/10 at 4:59pm
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Palin supported Bush and torture, so anything that makes her unhappy is okay by me. Perhaps she'll fall into despair and commit suicide.
I know you don't care about my opinion of you, but I'll give it to you anyway. Sometimes you are an engaging, insightful, and intelligent poster, especially here in the Politics forum. At other times, you come across as an absolutely miserable human being.
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post #114 of 128
2/3/10 at 7:45pm
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post #115 of 128
2/3/10 at 8:24pm
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I know you don't care about my opinion of you, but I'll give it to you anyway. Sometimes you are an engaging, insightful, and intelligent poster, especially here in the Politics forum. At other times, you come across as an absolutely miserable human being.
I have no respect for the pro-torture crowd. It's not an abstract ideological difference, it's me being disgusted because the Bush government had one Canadian disappeared into Cuba and another sent to the mideast to be held and tortured for a year. We're supposed to be allies and the Republican government spat on us. So you'll understand if I'm not really distressed if a supporter of such travesties is a little put out over a remark that didn't even concern her.
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post #116 of 128
2/4/10 at 2:25pm
The first post-primary Senate poll in Illinois has the Republican Kirk up by 6.

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The Rasmussen survey (Feb. 3, 500 LV, MoE +/- 4.5%) finds the moderate Kirk leading 59%-22% among independents, and with a higher favorable rating (55%/33%) than Giannoulias (46%/39%). In his home state, 54% approve of the job President Obama is doing.

Kirk 46
Giannoulias 40
Und 10
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post #117 of 128
2/8/10 at 7:16pm
Wasn't sure where else to put this. John Murtha dies at 77.

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Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania, a longtime fixture on the House subcommittee that oversees Pentagon spending, died after complications from gallbladder surgery, according to his office. He was 77.

The Democratic congressman recently underwent laparoscopic surgery to remove his gallbladder.

Murtha was hospitalized in December and had to postpone a hearing with Defense Secretary Robert Gates on the administration's strategy in Afghanistan. The congressman returned to work after a few days in the hospital and helped oversee final passage of the 2010 defense appropriations bill.

Murtha was "incredibly effective in his service in the House," said Wisconsin Rep. David Obey, chairman of the Appropriations Committee.

"Every person who serves in the military has lost an advocate and a good friend." Murtha "will be missed," said House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio. "The House of Representatives has lost one of its own."

Murtha had represented Pennsylvania's 12th Congressional District since 1974, making him the chamber's eighth most senior member. According to his biography on the House of Representatives Web site, Murtha was the first Vietnam War combat veteran elected to Congress.
More at the link.
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post #118 of 128
2/12/10 at 3:25pm
Patrick Kennedy (D - RI), son of Ted, will not run for reelection.

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Rhode Island Democratic Rep. Patrick Kennedy will retire after eight terms in office, bringing an end to his House career just months after his father, legendary Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy, passed away.

"My father instilled in me a deep commitment to public service," Kennedy said in a video announcing his retirement. "Now having spent two decades in politics, my life has taken a new direction and I will not be a candidate for re-election this year."

Kennedy has easily held Rhode Island's 1st district since 1994 despite the occasional attempt by Republicans to knock him off.
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post #119 of 128
2/15/10 at 6:32pm
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...ection-bid/?hp

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Senator Evan Bayh, the Indiana Democrat, said on Monday that he will not seek a third term in Congress.

The decision, which he announced at an afternoon press conference, came as a surprise to Democrats in his state who had already started working on his campaign.

Mr. Bayh, 54, made his decision even after entreaties by President Obama and White House aides, including the chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, who urged him to run.

In his remarks, Mr. Bayh expressed frustration at what he described as an increasingly polarized atmosphere in Washington that made it impossible to get anything done.

“For some time, I have had a growing conviction that Congress is not operating as it should,” he said. “There is much too much partisanship and not enough progress. Too much narrow ideology and not enough practical problem solving.”

And while he complimented his colleagues in the Senate, he said that “the institution is in need of significant reform.”

He cited two recent examples of the Senate not stepping up – the voting down of a bipartisan commission to deal with the federal deficit and the stymied attempt to craft a jobs bill.
WoooooooW.

I wonder if he's setting himself up for the 2012 Presidency....
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post #120 of 128
2/15/10 at 7:54pm
Just listening to Joe Biden on Meet the Press. Worst appearance by a professional politician I've heard in some time. Defensive, strident, flailing.

Team Obama really, really needs to get it's act together.
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post #121 of 128
2/15/10 at 8:03pm
Yeah, Bayh's not done with politics by a long shot. A primary challenge may be in the works. But I don't know if the increasingly vocal progressive bloc of the Democratic Party is quite ready to roll over and let a true moderate/centrist unseat Obama.

I'm pretty sure tomorrow is the deadline for registering as a candidate with the requisite signatures. If the Dems have no registered candidates, there's no primary and they should be able to pick their own candidate. Even if one of their US Reps switches over to this race, I'm not sure I like their chances in this political climate. This seat should join North Dakota, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Nevada, and possibly Colorado as strong candidates for Republican pick ups this fall.
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post #122 of 128
2/15/10 at 8:41pm
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Yeah, Bayh's not done with politics by a long shot. A primary challenge may be in the works. But I don't know if the increasingly vocal progressive bloc of the Democratic Party is quite ready to roll over and let a true moderate/centrist unseat Obama.
I love how Bayh is saying that he is quiting to better serve "the people of Indiana." It is paycheck time. He is going to join a pharma lobby and make a million or so a year.

The Idea that a conservative and corporate whore democrat like Bayh is considered a viable primary challenger to Obama in 2012 is laughable.

The democrats are fucked in November I think the republicans will gain about 12 seats at this rate so 53-47. The good thing is that alot of the bluedogs/corporatist democrats are going to lose and thus their grip on the senate will losen.

Spector is not going to lose to Toomey. That guy is a crazy Grover Norquist "Club for Growther". We already had one asshole like Santorium in the Senate for 12 fucking years. We don't need another one.
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post #123 of 128
2/15/10 at 9:04pm
hey Rourkefan, what's the feeling on the ground in PA regarding Joe Sestak? I remember getting to talk to him once when I was interning at a newspaper in DC right around the time that Ned Lamont endorsed his run. He seemed like a nice enough guy, and seemed pretty progressive as far as "establishment" Democrats go. He's gunning for Spector, but I don't know if he can take him from my outsider's point of view.
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post #124 of 128
2/15/10 at 10:12pm
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Originally Posted by D.S. Randlett View Post
hey Rourkefan, what's the feeling on the ground in PA regarding Joe Sestak? I remember getting to talk to him once when I was interning at a newspaper in DC right around the time that Ned Lamont endorsed his run. He seemed like a nice enough guy, and seemed pretty progressive as far as "establishment" Democrats go. He's gunning for Spector, but I don't know if he can take him from my outsider's point of view.
He's got no shot. He's not well known out west and the party establishment's already endorsed Specter.

It's gonna be Specter v. Toomey. Don't bet on Toomey winning, though.
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post #125 of 128
2/15/10 at 10:28pm
Bayh could never, ever win the Democratic nomination, regardless of who was running against him. And him beating Obama, are you fucking kidding? What planet are you living on Snaieke?

The liberal/progressive wing of the party is way too powerful to allow a corporate whore like Bayh represent the party.
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post #126 of 128
2/15/10 at 11:10pm
What do the last two one-term presidents Jimmy Carter and George H.W. "Plainview" Bush have in common? They had a strong Primary challenger (Teddy Kennedy in 80 and Pat Buchanan in 92). Rowdy Roddy Reagan in 84, Loves the Clinton in 96, and W in 2004 had no primary opponants.
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post #127 of 128
2/15/10 at 11:17pm
Sestak is my congressman. He should have stayed in the House. Now my district is all but guaranteed to go GOP.
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post #128 of 128
2/16/10 at 1:49am
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Originally Posted by jvc View Post
Yeah, Bayh's not done with politics by a long shot. A primary challenge may be in the works. But I don't know if the increasingly vocal progressive bloc of the Democratic Party is quite ready to roll over and let a true moderate/centrist unseat Obama.
What's left for him?

He's been a two term Governor and a two term Senator. He seems to have adopted the play everyone thought Hillary was going to do all while securing 13 million as a war chest.

I guess we'll know his intentions within the next few months if he doesn't turn that money over to whomever secures the nomination. One thing is for sure, those Senate halls are going to be very chilly when they get back to work.
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