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post #1 of 35
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Chili Peppers Need New Guitarist.


http://www.musicradar.com/news/guita...-source-229551


The band just got a hell of a lot less interesting, and I am (was, perhaps) a full blown apologist - but have been more of a Frusciante fan over the last decade or so. I'm kind of surprised he stayed as long as he did, actually.
post #2 of 35
Both Flea and Frusciante are better than that band, have been better than that band for a really long time. Kiedis has nothing else except that band. Chad Smith writes music to strip to with with Sammy Hagar. This is all for the best.
post #3 of 35
How dare you besmirch the good name of Chickenfoot, sir.

Just kidding, besmirch away.
post #4 of 35
I like exactly one of their songs.


PS: Is it fair to say that "Yeah" is the word most common in rock lyrics?
post #5 of 35
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Originally Posted by Raspberry Leper View Post
Chili Peppers Need New Guitarist.

The band just got a hell of a lot less interesting...
Just?
post #6 of 35
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
I like exactly one of their songs.
That's just clueless. The entire Blood Sugar Sex Magik is a goddamn masterpiece of modern funk. And the earlier output, while mediocre in production and execution (not to mention Antwan vocals), contain some of the nastiest, funkiest riffs in rock history.
post #7 of 35
This band has been boring as shit for years even WITH Flea and Frusciante. Maybe if they STOPPED MAKING FUCKING SONGS ABOUT CALIFORNIA AND GIRLS, they might improve. Until then, I couldn't possibly care less.
post #8 of 35
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Originally Posted by Justin Clark View Post
Both Flea and Frusciante are better than that band, have been better than that band for a really long time. Kiedis has nothing else except that band. Chad Smith writes music to strip to with with Sammy Hagar. This is all for the best.
I have the feeling that this may push Flea over the edge to just forget it. He's been sessioning and guesting with far more interesting musicians for a lot of years now, and seems that he stayed with the Peppers just for the lifelong friendship with Kiedis, and the great musicianship of Frusciante (and maybe for the paycheck).
With his involvement with Thom Yorke around the corner, what would drive him to get into developing new Peppers stuff when his only equal sparring partner in the band is gone?
post #9 of 35
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
This band has been boring as s**t for years even WITH Flea and Frusciante. Maybe if they STOPPED MAKING F**KING SONGS ABOUT CALIFORNIA AND GIRLS, they might improve. Until then, I couldn't possibly care less.
This I can agree on. Hell, I liked the Frusciante solo records far better than any post-BSSM Peppers. So this might turn out to be a good thing.
post #10 of 35
Stadium Arcadium is one of the best guitar albums in mainstream rock in two decades.
post #11 of 35
But isn't that more of an indictment against mainstream rock than it is praise for Stadium Arcadium?

Maybe it's just the fact that that album got run into the ground almost as badly as Matchbox 20's debut album that I have such disdain for it.
post #12 of 35
His work on that album is incredible. I got bored of Kiedis a long time ago but I can listen to that album anytime and find great, inspired guitar ideas.
post #13 of 35
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Originally Posted by Nick Nunziata View Post
Stadium Arcadium is one of the best guitar albums in mainstream rock in two decades.
While true, again, Frusciante's even better than that.

Most of what he played on The Mars Volta's Octahedron demolishes what he's done on the last three Chili Peppers albums.
post #14 of 35
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Originally Posted by Justin Clark View Post
Kiedis has nothing else except that band.
Heroin would like to have a word with you.
post #15 of 35
So would Point Break.
post #16 of 35
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Originally Posted by cheftournel View Post
That's just clueless. The entire Blood Sugar Sex Magik is a goddamn masterpiece of modern funk. And the earlier output, while mediocre in production and execution (not to mention Antwan vocals), contain some of the nastiest, funkiest riffs in rock history.
I have different tastes in music than you do. There are plenty of bands that I am sure are good that I don't happen to enjoy their music. hat does not make me clueless

I was not critizing them, just sort of piping in with what I thought would be a welcome endorsement of one of their songs.
post #17 of 35
It's a pretty good album.

I've always felt that the Chili Peppers are one of those bands that was great despite their frontman. I like Keidis's tone, but his antics grind my gears a bit.
post #18 of 35
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Originally Posted by Nick Nunziata View Post
Stadium Arcadium is one of the best guitar albums in mainstream rock in two decades.
Not even a fan of the group, but this is indeed their opus, and Frusciante's mainstream peak, no doubt.
post #19 of 35
Thread Starter 
If this leads to more Frusciante solo work, then I am all for it. Like I said, the fact his second tenure lasted over a decade is shocking to me. God willing he stays healthy and releases tons more interesting work, be it with this band, any band, or no band.
post #20 of 35
I thought the five most common words were "Scott Wieland Returns To Rehab".
post #21 of 35
Actually, they're Lars Ulrich Is A Dick, but, hey, doesn't make any of these statements less true.
post #22 of 35
Here's how I'd like this whole RHCP thing to play out:
Frusciante and Flea join P-Funk in between solo efforts from Frusicante and more session work from Flea.
Chad Smith does whatever Chad Smith does
Anthony Kiedis goes into retirement

5 years later they re-united to perform a tour playing all of BSSM and Mother's Milk before they're too old to do so.

They call it quits for good.
post #23 of 35
Hail Satan, Prince of Darkness...
post #24 of 35
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I thought the five most common words were "Scott Wieland Returns To Rehab".
No, they're "The Who's Final Concert Tour".
post #25 of 35
Well this is a shame. I guess there's always Frusciante's solo work to look forward to. Klinghoffer's too much of an unknown for me to anticipate how he'll affect the band's chemistry and song writing.
post #26 of 35
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Originally Posted by Chris Miller View Post
Here's how I'd like this whole RHCP thing to play out:
Frusciante and Flea join P-Funk in between solo efforts from Frusicante and more session work from Flea.
Chad Smith does whatever Chad Smith does
Anthony Kiedis goes into retirement

5 years later they re-united to perform a tour playing all of BSSM and Mother's Milk before they're too old to do so.

They call it quits for good.
That sounds like the ideal scenario for me, with the replacement of 'Mother's Milk' on the reunion tour with a couple of songs from that album, and the majority of 'Uplift Mofo'. I mean, listen to the raw jams the old Peppers did (so with Slovak & Irons) in preparation to that album, and marvel what could have been..
http://nevergetoutoftheboat.blogspot...i-peppers.html

Coming to think of it... maybe they could do the reunion tour without Kiedis, just as a raw instrumental funkrock band..:S

So yeah, when BSSM came out, they were on top of their game. And nowadays they're just a bunch of very talented musicians -Kiedis excluded, he's a good frontman but a terrible singer/rapper/lyricist- probably having a good time but not accomplishing much in terms of exciting music. I vastly prefer '1st phase' Peppers to "the next Eagles", drug insanity notwithstanding.

Actually that's what I meant Kate, no offence.. but people don't seem to be aware of the fact that RHCP before Californication was a completely different band, with a totally different sound. Even they themselves seem to bury that past- there's been no songs from the first 5 albums in their live set list for years. And of course you can't blame an artist for wanting to move on & look forward, but in this case sadly their recent output just doesn't cut it in comparison to the best of their previous incarnation.
post #27 of 35
Thread Starter 
I would rather Klinghoffer continue to work with Frusciante instead of the Chili Peppers. Another Ataxia album would be great news.
post #28 of 35
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
This band has been boring as shit for years even WITH Flea and Frusciante. Maybe if they STOPPED MAKING FUCKING SONGS ABOUT CALIFORNIA AND GIRLS, they might improve. Until then, I couldn't possibly care less.
It would help if KROQ didn't play them every five seconds.
post #29 of 35
Stadium is Frusciante and Flea at their best. I could't agree more that the boring stuff come from the inane lyrics about girls, dead cats and teenage rage in their forties.
post #30 of 35
I'd left them for dead forever ago (I saw them on the Californication tour, and was shocked at how much the Foo Fighters decimated them in terms of fun) but all this praise for Stadium Arcadium hasn't fallen on deaf ears. I'll be giving it a shot here soon.
post #31 of 35
Klinghoffer is badass, I saw him as part of PJ Harvey's band in 2004. He added a lot to the somewhat sparse Uh Huh Her songs. Check him out on her live DVD.

He doesn't belong in this band, though. I can't imagine him filling in for more than 1 tour or album. It feels like his buddies tossed him a token paycheck gig or something, since I guess Frusciante's bank account is big enough now.
post #32 of 35
I think RHCP are in that "they're uncool" valley every band that sticks around long enough eventually hits. In 5 years it'll be cool to like them again. IMO they have always been a solid band (although live they leave me underwhelmed). I like some albums more than others and agree Kiedis needs some new things to sing about but overall they've been far better (and had a lot more influence) than anyone seems to be giving them credit for.

EDIT: As for Frusciante leaving the band... it's a shame but maybe it's the shake-up they need. I think it worked out pretty great last time. One Hot Minute is my favorite album of theirs but I know I'm in the minority there.
post #33 of 35
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Originally Posted by Timothy Q View Post
One Hot Minute is my favorite album of theirs but I know I'm in the minority there.
It's my 2nd favorite album. And the thing is, Anthony really struggled on this album when it came to writing lyrics. He had a really hard time, but in the end what's on the album are some of his better songs, lyrically, I think.

I remember reading a while back, and I'm not sure if I'm mixing up stories, that John had some European engagements that he was obligated to do and that the band might use a replacement for upcoming benefit shows or whatever. Maybe that's the case here, as every other site has "Frusciante leaves Chili Peppers?" or "John Frusciante allegedly quits RHCP"

If he really quit, then that actually bums me out. I've been a fan since the 1st grade. Sure, they've been better, bt I love the band, warts, Kiedis, and all. I think Chad Smith and Flea are one of the greatest rythm sections in rock in the last 30 years.

As far as Anthony not having anythign after RHCP, well that's not true. He's got a family and that's what I think he'll do if the band dissolves.

Anyway, the band splitting up because of this would definitely be a . . . wait for it . . . wait for it . . .

FUNKY CRIME!

FUuuN KYyy CRIME!

A Don't you know funk's color blind?
Well, I commited a funky crime!
Against the state of mind!


I'll stop now . . .
post #34 of 35
Thread Starter 
Official statement

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Originally Posted by John Frusciante
“When I quit the band, over a year ago, we were on an indefinite hiatus. There was no drama or anger involved, and the other guys were very understanding. They are supportive of my doing whatever makes me happy and that goes both ways.

To put it simply, my musical interests have led me in a different direction. Upon rejoining, and throughout my time in the band, I was very excited about exploring the musical possibilities inherent in a rock band, and doing so with those people in particular. A couple of years ago, I began to feel that same excitement again, but this time it was about making a different kind of music, alone, and being my own engineer.

I really love the band and what we did. I understand and value that my work with them means a lot to many people, but I have to follow my interests. For me, art has never been something done out of a sense of duty. It is something I do because it is really fun, exciting, and interesting. Over the last 12 years, I have changed, as a person and artist, to such a degree that to do further work along the lines I did with the band would be to go against my own nature. There was no choice involved in this decision. I simply have to be what I am, and have to do what I must do.

Sending love and gratitude to you all.”
post #35 of 35

 

And Chili Peppers without Frusciante kinda like Chili Peppers with Frusciante . . .

 

Not sure how I feel about this song yet.  I mean I kinda dig it, but I get the feeling it's definitely a filler tune.  I'll have to give it a few more listens.

 

I really like the textural guitar work.  It's gotta a fun head bobbing groove.  And  I can't imagine John would have done anything differently as far as instrumentation.  It sounds like how John Frusciante from By The Way sessions would have written it.  Strangely, though, you can still really feel John's absence from the lack of fucking awesome background vocals.

 

And coming from an Anthony Kiedis apologist, what's really interesting to me is that Kiedis has had experiences and the kind of life that could and should inspire at the very least interesting lyrics, but, even today, they're surprisingly shallow...

 

Still, I'm hoping for the best.  If anything the rhythm section will be fucking solid and the guitar should be interesting.

 

EDIT:  Also, Here's hoping that with Frusciante out they'll lay down some OHM tunes.  But I'm not holding my breath...

 

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