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post #1 of 39
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I'm sure this has been done already but just curious what other horror nutjobs thought of this. Some buddies of my not as obsessed with horror as I, liked the damn thing. I thought it was interesting for the first 30 min. then they fully revealed the lame ass demon and the horror movie cliches started rolling in left and right.

"Oh, Johnny, the clutch just went out mysteriously just as we're being chased by a flying demon that drives an ice-cream truck, oh what are we going to do?"

"Not to worry Virginia, there's an old creepy house with a crazy old lady in it over there, we'll be safe for sure because she has lots of cats"
post #2 of 39
Hmmm... I liked it for what it is; a monster flick. I was releaved to see JC during a time where teeny-bopper flicks were what we were being fed, so I ate up JC and loved it.

Though I agree some of it is a little cliche(sp?), but what horror movie isn't? It's a fun ride, and I look forward to see how part 2 turns out.

- Fixxxer
post #3 of 39
I really loved it. JC had a great intro and a badass villain. At first it was just a dark man, than a dark man with an axe, then an unstoppable demon which was able to fly. Dude, i don´t wanna meet that guy.

Think of other horror movies, there are about houndreds of movies out there who have much more cliches.

The movie was creepy, funny at times, there was plenty of action and the main characters were sympathic.

The movie´s ending wasnt predictable, there was no real revelation of the demon and there was no happy end.

The only sucker in this movie was the talking woman who mysteriously knew stuff about the Creeper.

I´ll be in JC2 opening day, thats for sure

and...try to make a horrorfilm without touching anything someone already did before...

post #4 of 39
I thought it was great. Kind of an old fashioned creature feature served to us in the days of teen slasher movies which turn out to be more thrillers than horror movies where the whole movie is designed just to have a shock ending of who the killer actually is...and then of course it could never be that person but it was anyway (Urban Legends and every other piece of shit we've all had to sit thru over the last few years.)
I thought "Jeepers Creepers" was fresh in its treatment of its main characters, especially nice to see brother/sister rather than typical boyfriend/girlfriend. I liked the humor, I liked the ending. Well hey, I just liked it. Can't wait for #2
post #5 of 39
As i have called it before... it was one of the Wicket Witch of the Wests flying monkeys in a power-rangers puddy suit. i loved the movie up until they showed the creeper in full. But i thought it had enough good to it up until that part that they could not ruin the whole picture with the last half hour.

I was wrong.....
post #6 of 39
Give the movie a break... It's one of the very select few good (not great) horror films of late. I'm one of those people that would rather tear their eyeballs out and eat them with creme of mushroom soup then watch any of the teen horror flicks like Scream, I Know, etc.

Possibly spoilers? Like someone hasn't seen this movie yet...

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.But this movie worked on a b-movie level and had enough interesting scenes such as the creature opening wings in the middle of the road, the underground collection of skinned remains. It actually felt more like an episode out of the Tales From the Darkside Movie then anything else. And I loved it for that. Take your hatred for bad horror films to something more deserving... like Signs.
post #7 of 39
I actually liked Signs but thats off topic. I hated JP. It just seemed very lame and unoriginal to me. This by itself would not be that bad since it is next to impossible to come up with a horror flick that is totally original these days. But there was a lot more wrong that combined with the cliches and made it worse. I could not empathize with the main characters at all, they just felt like tools used to move the movie along. The psychic woman who knew everything and kept on babbling about things to come drove me insane.

(Spoilers)

I think the Creeper was really the most boring part. At first it just seemed like some creepy guy in a raincoat straight out of IKWYDLS, just a stereotypical psycho. Then it became some kind of wierd monster in a coat and hat. Still not scary. But around the last half hour of the movie it turned into a lizard monster that needs to eat human body parts to stay alive. It looked very unrealistic and just didn't feel threatening. It wasn't intelligent, it didn't have any motivation besides a desire to eat human body parts. And I thought the ending...well...sucked. I might watch the sequel just because I am a completist but would I ever watch this again? No.
post #8 of 39
I too thought the first 1/2 hour was very good, however, the turn in the film blew it for me ... The creature was hokey, and while this might have worked with other films, JC began as a horrifying drama, and had it stayed that way, the film would have been much better IMHO ...

I'm just not disturbed or moved in any way by obvious costumes, so the letdown of seeing the villian just about spoiled the entire thing for me ... I really did dig the sister though, she struck a chord with me ...
post #9 of 39
It struck me that the picture was about a myth come to life. An urban legend writ large and that Darry and his sister were actually very much like the people watching it. We're sitting here saying how unbelievable it all is, well watch the film and you'll see in these kids, a defiance that is deceptively more lifelike than regular horror pictures. Salva has created a great modern day legend. And that is what the picture is about, rather than the teens who encounter it. It isn't hokey Urban Legend tricksiness. It's a very real "what if...", a feeling much like a Jacques Tournier picture for th 21st Century.

In my humble defence of what I think is a very solid and savvy genre picture, I'd put forth that its narrative's real strength is its knowledge that: things just end like that.

Fantastical or real life, there is sometimes no tidy resolution. No catharsis. No explanation. No get out. Suddenly, everything’s seemingly back to normal for the peripheral characters. For the remainder though, who have been tainted by this otherness, for them that in the briefest moment saw what lay beneath, life is now the hell of living on knowing that what ever freaky-deaky shit storm they witnessed is out there, regardless of what any disbelievers say. It may never come back. It may never be seen by any living soul ever again. The horror of the unseen truly coming full circle. And from a horror picture, you cannot possibly ask for more.

It's quite a risky gambit for this kind of picture. It may not have paid off for everybody. But it is a fresh departure for a picture like this. And for this I feel it should be appluaded. If it had conformed to genre cliche, it would have been lambasted. It didn't, and was still lambasted. I'm still trying to figure out what this says about the picture and its audience...
post #10 of 39
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The sister did something for me as well...about the only thing.

I must say I didn't expect to see this much support for JC at all here. Just as a sidepoint i am glad to have become part of this community because agree or disagree everyone has excellent viewpoints and that is the nature of film anyway isn't it? I watched this movie when it first came out on DVD, well i bought the dvd and purged it from my collection immedietly, so it's all just a distant nightmare now. I can't really recall enough specifics to breakdown exactely what the things were that rubbed me the wrong way but I just felt instead of a teen slasher flick it was a teen monster flick. Maybe the first 20 minutes of the film were so interesting and fresh to me that as soon as it broke down into just another lame monster movie I was severly disappointed. It just seemed so artistic at first only to become a rip off of a dozen other movies I couldn't take it. I recently watched feardotcom when i picked up that dvd and i liked that a helluva lot better. Even though the story was pathetic and completely predictable the artistic feel to the filming, cinematography and direction never left.
post #11 of 39
The first bit was great, believable siblings and some pretty tense stuff along the road and down the pipe.

But then it fell apart, and blah blah just like everyone else has already said fifty times.

The most disappointing thing to me about JC was that it seemed that the start of the movie indicated that the Creeper might actually have some character. The weirdass truck, the funkified axe, the wide-brimmed hat and trenchcoat, the stitched together bodies... all of it disappearing as soon as you see the 'monster' stuff, and never explained.
post #12 of 39
Bruce,

Spot on appraisal. This film deserves no sequel. It felt like there was an entirely different writing crew on the second half. It went straight to hell, in a genre where sucha remark should be a compliment!
post #13 of 39
I liked it, and took a lot of flak from friends for openly saying so. It was a fun creature flick that I thought had some cool visuals and a few genuinely creepy and stunningly filmed scenes, along with cool, likeable characters and a fun story. Sure, if you dig too deeply in the plot you're going to find out it doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense, but that can be said of almost any creature feature (even the grandaddy "Creature from the Black Lagoon"--which I love dearly). It ain't Citizen Kane, but for me it had a neat almost throwback kind of vibe which I dug to no end.

And with Straxboy I'd like to say I dug the untidy ending and the lack of explanation. The Creeper is better without an explanation, imho. He just IS. Accept it and have fun.

That said, I understand why it's not everyone's cup of tea. But it was mine. That's all I'm sayin'.
post #14 of 39
This film did indeed feel like two types of movies rolled into one.

I would have much rather enjoyed that we didn't see the Creeper in his full form.

I'm more for the psychological stuff. Ie, things that go bump in that night and stay hidden in shadows. This is why I have to side with Werewolf Gurl.
post #15 of 39
RAMBLING GROUCH WARNING: (I'm tired and grouchy and don't want to be working on a holiday )

I try very hard most of the time to try to see the good/bad things that other people find in, but in this case, I simply don't see the same the things people have been complaining about, aside from the mindnumbingly convenient presence of the psychic (whasser name?).

I don't see the glaring line through the film after the first half hour blows by. I don't understand why each newly revealed aspect of the Creeper is so annoying to so many people. There's always one thing people are almost guaranteed to complain about when they see a monster movie: the monster's not shown enough, you can barely see it, I wanna see the face, claws, etc. whatever. Well, problem solved here doncha think?

With JC, they managed to alleviate that complaint even more expertly by layering the reveals, and it's cooler with each new apsect that's uncovered. What a great badass multifaceted killing machine the Creeper is. Who could ask for more?

The fact that he comes off as human in the beginning is probably, for me, the creepiest part of him. He is the wolf in sheep's clothing and that's a perfect predatory skill. What a frightening monster, 10 times better than a vampire and craftier than a werewolf. Under all the rags, there's nothing to humanize him at all and that's damn scary, he was born that way, not made that way. I'd love to see a nature show on the diffrent ways the Creeper has adapted to living and hunting among humans.

And the cliches had to be there.

They're fairly maddening to a modern moviegoers sensibility, but c'mon, where's your sense of nostalgia? The way I see the cliches is simply that, nostalgia, homage, whatever you want to call it. They're there for a reason and they work. Nothing in JC happened in such a way as to seem contrived or simply inserted in order to make things make sense, again, with the exception of the psychic, who to a degree I enjoyed.

If I had to make the call, I would have had her telephone scene stay in and I would've had her show up at the very end. Her screen time was for the most part awkward and made up the worst moments in the movie. She would've been better to have been saved for the sequel.

I also love the fact that while many things are revealed about the Creeper, via the psychic and by his actions and his little hideaways, his history is still completely fucked sideways.

Yeah there are explanations and hints and even fully detailed pieces of dialogue on who/what/why he is, but he's still a mystery for the most part and God damn if that ain't great news for a sequel, because then the sequel won't be nearly as trite as most sequels are.

We won't have to sit through recaps, and flashbacks of back history because the writers blew their load in the first movie. We won't have to worry about the Creeper having been changed from his original incarnation in order to suit the sequel, simply because we still don't know a Hell of a lot about him. I think that will make following films even more fresh and interesting.

I love the movie, I had a great time watching it and while I'm a bit tentative about the sequel (the whole, group of teens storyline rubs me the wrong way to the tune of a slasher flick) I'm still psyched to see JC2.
post #16 of 39
I agree with alot of the comments on the board. My own feeling is that the first 30 mins or so are amazing, the build up is brillantly executed. And I think that may be part of the problem, because I didnt feel the rest of the film was as bad as some of the posts paint it to be. Its just the start was just great and the what followed didnt live up to the the high expectations set by it.

I do own this on DVD, and have enjoyed watching it a number of times. A good film expecially given the crap released around that time.
post #17 of 39
The more I've seen "Jeepers Creepers," the more I like it. I know the director hates the ending because he wanted to do more and thinks the movie's incomplete, but I love the idea that the audience is expecting some big climactic fight - yet the Creeper simply wins, gets what he came for, and vanishes.

Most horror movies imply that some dark critter that's been roaming the earth for centuries could FINALLY be stopped by a bunch of plucky WB kids. "Jeepers Creepers" is of the mind that this guy's been around forever, has seen it all before, and guess what? You ain't stopping it either.
post #18 of 39
Speaking of cliches, my take of this film is one.

First hour is great, and then it quickly descends into the abyss of suck. Overall, I really don't want to ever see it again.
post #19 of 39
While I don't completely agree that it's a "first half good/second half ass" situation, I do feel that the build up is infinitely more interesting than what follows, with the exception of the genuinely surprising ending. To continue the fractions game even further, it's the rather generic third quarter (also where the psychic pops up with her handy exposition) that drags, but all in all it's still great to see a modern monster movie that doesn't treat you like a spoon-fed monkey.
post #20 of 39
Jeepers Creepers is very valuable (just like many modern horror films we take to much for granted) precisely because it is able provoke this kind of measured debate and discussion. Anything that does that, I say becomes justifiable and worthy ?
post #21 of 39
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I agree Straxboy so it isn't a complete waste if it can offer compelling conversation and many different insights but that's all it did for me. I'm glad alot of people enjoyed it, I hated the ending. Not because the Creeper won or anything but because of the horrible effects and the fact that the boy was dead. I wanted to see him dangling down there screaming with no eyes. Not a limp body with 2 perfect holes all the way through his head and the visual effects afu'd.

I'm not really looking forward to part 2 at all but if they answer my question of why a demon with the capability of flight drive around in a panel van. I thought 'The Duel' aspects of the beginning were sweet as well but then the van is abandoned never to be used again. Of course, if I were a demon with wings I probably wouldn't waste time driving around anyway.
post #22 of 39
I liked JC quite a bit. The psychic was lame but all in all it was a very good flick.

JC and 'Joyride' both seemed to harken back to a simpler time when we didn't have to wink-wink at every line uttered by the characters. Both films were just suspenseful horror chase films and I dug em both. Not great art, but just a good time at the theater.
post #23 of 39
Floydian, I agree 100% when you bring up DUEL ... I actually was going to mention DUEL, however, I have a tendency to veer off into drama too much around here .... I suppose it's sorta a Catch 22 with me: the more a film gets into "horror" ( monsters/creatures/costumed characters ), the LESS horrifing it usually is for me .. In other words, drama is more "horror" than actual horror for me ...

And Strax, your points are excellent, however, you must admit that at a certain point in the film ( for me it was the cop getting killed en route to the fire )the feel changed .. and for me, it was like shifting without using the clutch ... What began as something right up my alley (real terror ), turned into something I'm lukewarm to ( costumed creatures ) ...

But that's just me, I felt the same way when I read "IT" - ya know, if it just would have been some disturbed cretin in a clown suit I would have loved it, but when it goes off into the "dark lights" and giant creatures, please, you're going to lose me 10 out of 10 times ...
post #24 of 39
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I'm with ya elmie, good call!
post #25 of 39
I hated this movie in the theatre... like everyone else I was creeped out for the first half hour, but thought it lost its way for the rest of it. I think it had something to do with all of the hype floating around here on CHUD at the time... for some reason whenever something is so hyped up here by Nick or whoever, I get my expectations up.
Dah well, its fun looking forward to things though.
I just rented this again, and I'm willing to give it another shot.
post #26 of 39
.. I just went over to IMDB, and discovered that Gina Philips ( the sis from JC ) is not in the sequel ... oh ... is this correct ???

I thought she was great, reason enough for me to want to see JC 2 ... oh well, guess that's going to happen ...
post #27 of 39
<img src="http://www.celebrityforever.com/ppic/g/gina_philips.jpg" alt="" />

( .... sigh .... )
post #28 of 39
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drooool!
post #29 of 39
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Floydian Trip:
I watched this movie when it first came out on DVD, well i bought the dvd and purged it from my collection immedietly, so it's all just a distant nightmare now.
Let me get this straight...you bought the DVD of
a movie you didn't like?
post #30 of 39
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I didn't know I didn't like it when I bought it. Unfortunately for me all I heard were people raving about how great it was. Same thin happened with Joy Ride which I hated as well. The movies that got the bad raps last year I actually liked, thirteen ghosts, feardotcom to name a couple.
post #31 of 39
fear.com may be one of the worst movies, let alone horror movies, i have ever seen that wasn't a B movie.
post #32 of 39
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yep, i think i'm the only person that liked it. The script sucked and the premise is rediculous and the whole movie was completely predictable but the actual filming, direction, cinematography and sets were very artisticly done imo.
post #33 of 39
JC1 was excellent. I liked that it was a monster at the end! The standoff at the end with his sister was very good. The creature had great eyes and was believable.

Feardotcom.com on the other hand could have been a great ghost story, however after about 20 minutes into this movie I realized that I didn't care about the characters, plot or the ending. Remove all the bad dialoge, visions, etc. and you've got a kickass Slayer video
post #34 of 39
It captured my interest in the beginning part but when we finally got to the police station scenes it just lost me. The whole monster design felt a bit wasted there when you finally see it in complete form and while I'll give points for a clever ending, it just wasn't complete. I felt like it was missing something.

post #35 of 39
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Floydian Trip:
I'm not really looking forward to part 2 at all but if they answer my question of why a demon with the capability of flight drive around in a panel van. I thought 'The Duel' aspects of the beginning were sweet as well but then the van is abandoned never to be used again. Of course, if I were a demon with wings I probably wouldn't waste time driving around anyway.
Um, the thing about the van was actually explained quite well. #1 - The Creeper didn't want folks to know that he was something other than human. #2 - The way he finds the parts he wants is by instilling fear in his possible victims: the fear casts off a scent, in the scent he can smell what he wants. The van was cast off after he didn't need to hide himself anymore. I thought all this was pretty self evident, actually...

I dig this flick immensely, warts and all. I purposefully stayed away from every spoiler, and went in not really knowing what to expect at all. The first half hour, while tense, really gave me an unpleasant "Aw shit, I've seen this movie before..." kind of feel - "Whoopie, a DUEL remake...".

Then when the kid wanted to check out that pipe? I groaned. The reveal of the walls was really well done, but then I had a nagging suspicion that I was now looking at a TEXAS CHAINSAW retread.

Actually, it was the phone call that really started to get me interested - all of a sudden this creepy psycho started to become something else for me. Something creepier. And then the movie started to really pick up speed for me.

My favorite movies have always been critter flicks, the cooler the critter, the better. And, let's face it, we haven't HAD that many cool critters around, lately. THE RELIC had a cute beastie, but that was YEARS ago. Good creature features are few and far in between - and suddenly here was a bitchin' critter in the middle of an American Gothic serial-killer flick!
HOT DAMN!

And not a mindless munching machine, either - this thing had pizazz and personality, and a wicked sense of humor besides ("B EATING U"). It wasn't enough that he was going to be doing cruel and unmentionable things to your person - he wanted to make sure you were good and scared before he got you to that point.

As far as special effects go, I thought they were pretty damned good, actually, especially considering that the flick only cost about 10 mil to make. And where are all these other low budget movies with flawless S-FX? I can't think of any, myself. People have been making a lot of noise about GINGER SNAPS lately (love that flick, too, by the way), but that woof at the end was pretty fugly, folks. And the budget was TWICE that of JC! And how about that critter in BOTW? Pretty bitchin', but that thing looked REALLY fake (at least in CGI)! Still didn't detract from how good the movie was, tho', am I right? And that flick had a pretty fat budget, too!

Which brings me to another thought: what's with all this bullshit about keeping the critter in the shadows? "In the old days, movies depended on the audience's imaginations to scare them." That's because they couldn't make convincing enough critters back then! Everybody applauds Speilberg for keeping the shark hidden until the end of the movie, but the only reason he did that in the first place was because old Brucie was pretty pathetic looking to begin with. He just hid it with some good old-fashioned suspense, and he did it well. Pissed me off when I was a kid, tho', all I wanted to see from that flick was sharks and lots of them (POF - the Great White Shark happens to be my favorite animal). It was only as an adult that I was truly able to appreciate what the man did, and well. Bitchin' flick, shark still looks fake. And what about THE THING? We got LOTS of good long looks at that little bugger, yet I don't hear much complaining from the peanut gallery on that one...

And the ending? Pure poetry. No explanations. No resolutions. No apologies. No eyes! Oh, and incidently, about that last scene? There weren't no S-FX there - they created a skin "dummy" of Justin Long, hung it up, then made Justin himself up as the Creeper, so it's actually him looking thru his own eyesocket. No CGI, all practical. Looked pretty convincing to me...

And one more thing, the van DOES make one more final appearance in the movie - after the credits, horn wailing away across the sunset.

Now, I'm not saying that you have to LIKE the flick, but if you're gonna shit on it, at least get your fucking facts straight and come up with a few more convincing arguments - makes you look less like an idiot and more like someone who has a valid opinion... But that's just my 2 cents...

post #36 of 39
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Now, I'm not saying that you have to LIKE the flick, but if you're gonna shit on it, at least get your fucking facts straight and come up with a few more convincing arguments - makes you look less like an idiot and more like someone who has a valid opinion... But that's just my 2 cents...
Damn cart00n, I didn't realize I was shitting on one of your favorite movies. This may come as a surprise but yes I undestood the movie the way you understood it, van and all and guess what I still thought it sucked!

So take your argumentative ass and go wait in line for part 2, sucker!
post #37 of 39
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Heh, no I wouldn't want to see feardotcom part 2 but I would like to see the directors next movie!
post #38 of 39
Quote:
Sam Loomis:
however, knowing the Director's sex crime, I find it difficult to watch this film again or the sequel, but that is just MHO.
Wha?
post #39 of 39
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He molested a kid who was in one of his movies! He's a freakshow! That didn't have anything to do with my dislike of the movie but after I heard about it certain scenes seemed pretty disgusting. Like the underwear sniffing scene!
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