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post #1 of 39
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So this was really good. I think the best way to describe it is "emotionally honest." There are some plot elements that are obvious and cliche, but like 'The Wrestler,' you're so involved in the characters that you can forgive it a lot. Similar to Randy getting drunk and missing dinner with his daughter, there's another big "oh no oh no oh no" moment that's done quite well.

The movie, also, tells a "redemption" story without being a "comeback" story. I don't want to get into very many specifics because it's quite good and more people should be surprised by it, but the last act of the movie is when I went from liking it to loving it. And although there's one moment that might have people rolling their eyes, the ending is honest, and doesn't betray what's come before. To talk any more about the plot -- especially how it compares and contrasts to The Wrestler -- would be to spoil the thing.

I mentioned this in the Oscar thread, but this is really career best work for Bridges. Like Rourke, it's "letting it all hang out" time, but it's the latest in a series of great performances from him. There's a similarity to his character from Fabulous Baker Boys, sure, but he creates a fully rounded character with Bad Blake. One of the amazing things about what Bridges does is that he starts off the movie showing how Blake can be charming when he wants to, even if he's a nasty and bitter drunk, and as the movie charts his decline deeper and deeper into alcoholism, he gets more worn, more raw, more haunted. There are some scenes where he doesn't even look like the Jeff Bridges we know and love. And he does his own singing, too, but more importantly, he knows how to act while singing. (The Blake character is a little David Allan Coe/Charlie Daniels in appearance and voice, but later takes on a gritter, more Leonard Cohen-y feel.)

The supporting cast's great, too. Maybe whatever Bridges was doing rubbed off on Maggie Gyllenhall, because she's also doing career best work here, and she's an actor who can be uneven and insufferable. (Note: I have not seen Sherrybaby.) Robert Duvall plays Blake's best/only friend (he also produced), and continues to be warm in these little parts in independent movies. And Colin Farrel, also doing his own singing, is pretty damn good as a Keith Urban/Trace Atkins modern country type.

It's a wonderful little movie that I enjoyed quite a bit. See it.
post #2 of 39
I don't think you'll find anyone here who's not a Jeff Bridges fan. The man deserves his due. Just bummed this hasn't opened here yet, considering it's a country/western film and those tend to do well in this neck of the woods.
post #3 of 39
God I want to see this. The look is obviously the whole Waylon/Hank Jr/David Allan Coe. Really ready to see this. Been listening to Ryan Bingham's song The Weary Kind a ton since I saw the trailer.
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post #5 of 39
Nice.
post #6 of 39
Hadn't heard anything about this until the thread and review, but I'll definitely be checking it out. Shame that there's not really any standout songs, but oh well.
post #7 of 39
I have been told I am wrong about that, but I haven't listened to the soundtrack. In the film none of the songs popped for me.
post #8 of 39
I just became aware of this movie within the last couple of weeks, thanks to CHUD. I probably read the name, and just confused it with Paper Heart.

I will watch anything with Jeff Bridges in it. Even Stick It if the opportunity presents itself. I've seen The Jagged Edge upwards of fifty times.

But fuck Tron.
post #9 of 39
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Originally Posted by Alan "Nordling" Cerny View Post
I don't think you'll find anyone here who's not a Jeff Bridges fan.
Is there anyone anywhere who actively dislikes Jeff Bridges? He has to be one of the most innately likeable screen presences out there.

This film very much sounds like my kind of thing, I'm eager to see it.
post #10 of 39
Love Jeff Bridges. Have appreciated Devin's championing of smaller or less mainstream films (especially The Fountain). But I'm going to wimp out and ask this:

Is the ending or denoument of the film uplifting or a downer?

I hate to ask, but the last year of life has had quite a few of its own, very real downers. I like watching realistic characters, but sometimes it helps to see a story that ends with a modicum of hope. Not a Disney ending, but one that doesn't leave you more depressed or cynical than before. So I'm not asking for details - just if this is similar to the Wrestler's ending, or something a bit cheerier.
post #11 of 39
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The ending is not the ending of The Wrestler, and you walk out of the film thinking Bad Blake is going to be okay. Bridges and Cooper have put us through enough that there's just enough doubt that it's not a Disney ending, but you feel pretty good at the end of it.
post #12 of 39
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Originally Posted by RathBandu View Post
The ending is not the ending of The Wrestler, and you walk out of the film thinking Bad Blake is going to be okay. Bridges and Cooper have put us through enough that there's just enough doubt that it's not a Disney ending, but you feel pretty good at the end of it.
Thanks.
post #13 of 39
I really really liked this film. It's so minor, yet it has stuck with me since seeing it over a month ago. It's aging well in my mind. Like Devin, I couldn't hum you any of the songs currently, yet I'm not a big country fan, so for me that didn't stand out as much of an issue. I don't like baseball either, but I can easily love a baseball movie. Same here with the country music world. The music felt very real.

And who knew Colin F could sing?
post #14 of 39
Oh my god, this movie. Devin's right about there not really being any standout songs, but that might be my country music elitism shining through. Bridges is amazing, Gyllenhaal's surprisingly awesome, Farrell's pretty good for his handful of moments, and Duvall's Duvall, which is never a bad thing. Definitely go see this if it's near you.
post #15 of 39
Two days after the fact, though, I do remember "Flyin' & Fallin'" pretty well. Catchy enough tune.

Bridges was great on Conan last night; he actually strapped on a guitar and did a half a song for the crowd. Good stuff.
post #16 of 39
It's sad, I remember the Buck Owens, Louvin Bros., and Kitty Wells cues more than the Bridges/Farrell songs. I know that I'm more likely to cling to those due to recognition, but at the same time I feel like the Bridges/Farrell songs just didn't hit me hard enough.
post #17 of 39
The third act was a little shaky, but Bridges just wills the movie over the line. He's so, so good in this. I dug the songs quite a bit--they were right in line with the 70's outlaw country style that I like.
post #18 of 39
Was I the only one who noticed what were perhaps some subtle homages to Lebowski in some of the shots? The scene where he's at the bowling alley bar. Wouldn't have been surprised if Sam Elliot sidled up next to him. Also him grabbing his sunglasses out of the trash can, very similar to him grabbing his sunglasses out of the toilet in Lebowski.

Anyway, really enjoyed this. Great performance by Bridges. The end bumped me a bit. When Farrell comes out to sing the song they were really trying to go for a "he died in the last 16 months... oh wait he didn't! gotcha!" kind of thing.
post #19 of 39
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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI View Post
Was I the only one who noticed what were perhaps some subtle homages to Lebowski in some of the shots? The scene where he's at the bowling alley bar. Wouldn't have been surprised if Sam Elliot sidled up next to him. Also him grabbing his sunglasses out of the trash can, very similar to him grabbing his sunglasses out of the toilet in Lebowski.
Friends and I discussed the bowling alley one-- looked like a VERY similar location and shot as the Lebowski. Didn't think about the sunglasses thing, though.

The soundtrack is $5 on Amazon MP3s this month.
http://www.amazon.com/Crazy-Heart-Or.../dp/B0031C5OLY
post #20 of 39
The guy who played the owner of the bowling alley looked like Bell from the Paper Chase series.
post #21 of 39
A magnificent film, one that felt free from artifice and clever writerly affectations. Agree very much with The Wrestler comparisons, a small-scale, intensely intimate character driven piece and Jeff Bridges owns it completely. He's the most real character since Randy The Ram (not that was so long ago), and despite all of his flaws, I was still rooting for him the entire way.

As soon as Jean let him watch over Buddy at the aquarium, I knew something bad was going to happen and it's a testament to Scott Cooper that he mines so much tension and uncomfortableness out of the situation. I felt like a drunk guy who just lost a kid.

Bridges deserves every award he can get. I rather enjoyed the Weary Kind (and a few others) and think they're great songs on their own. I'm not a country music fan, so maybe I just don't know exactly what I'm supposed to be listening for, of course. Hell of a show by Farrell as well. He nailed that southern drawl damn near perfectly.

Did anyone else feel, at some point, they were going to reveal that Tommy was actually Bad's son? So glad they didn't go that way.
post #22 of 39
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Originally Posted by Doc Happenin View Post

Did anyone else feel, at some point, they were going to reveal that Tommy was actually Bad's son? So glad they didn't go that way.
I was thinking that also. It was so much more powerful to hear the flat, emotionless voice of his real son on the phone blowing Bad's off.

For the record, my favorite song was the opening credits "Got A Hold On You."
post #23 of 39
Loved this flick so much. Bridges knocked it out of the park and deserves every bit of the praise he's receiving.

Me, the wife and her friend were discussing Crazy Heart afterwards, and one thing that really stuck with us was how unexpected Colin Ferrell's Tommy was. In any other type of movie like this, Tommy would have been portrayed as smug, arrogant and unappreciative. It's a testament to Cooper that he allowed the little bit of negativity towards Tommy to be a byproduct of Bad himself, rather than having Tommy be some cliched asshole musician.
post #24 of 39
I love this film, it feels very much of our time. It's a story that doesn't shy away from the flaws of its protagonist and showcases how hard yet rewarding it is to own up to your mistakes and do what you can to make things as right as possible.

The fact that Duvall isn't a dry drunk also impressed me. Far too many films takes AA's bullshit that one is powerless over alcohol and one needs to join some sort of cult-like program to get a handle on things as fact. It was refreshing to see a film feature a recovering addict who actually owns a bar and doesn't act like he's a fucking vampire in church in it.

The music seemed and Bridges' and Farrell's singing also had a nice air of authenticity to it. Speaking of Farrell, I liked what they did with the Tommy character for the same reasons you guys did. The only film in recent memory I can think of that plays with a character dynamic that hackneyed and makes it as fresh and entertaining is Two Lovers.
post #25 of 39
Saw this today and really liked it. It's impressive that they managed to take Bad Blake through some pretty cliche moments ("Everything's going so well despite my rampant alcoholism, one more drink won't hurt. Oh no it did! My love is lost! Time to get sober!") but make it work with some great character work. As Devin has said, it's a small movie and that makes it work. Nothing is slight, but it's not so over-the-top as to draw you away from the characters.

Like others mentioned, I really like that Tommy's character didn't turn out to be the stereotypical douchey former student. Nice little role for Farrell.

But this is totally Bridges' show. There are so many great moments where he sells everything about Bad Blake without having to say a word. When Tommy comes on stage to duet with him, the quiet bitterness on his face is so telling.

More than anything though, this film just makes me wish I could go fishing with Duvall and Bridges.
post #26 of 39
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Originally Posted by Misfit View Post
The third act was a little shaky, but Bridges just wills the movie over the line. He's so, so good in this. I dug the songs quite a bit--they were right in line with the 70's outlaw country style that I like.
Agreed with the comment about the third act. I wanted more than just a little montage at a rehab center. But Bridge's intent was real and honest and so I bought Blake's turn.

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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI View Post
Was I the only one who noticed what were perhaps some subtle homages to Lebowski in some of the shots? The scene where he's at the bowling alley bar. Wouldn't have been surprised if Sam Elliot sidled up next to him. Also him grabbing his sunglasses out of the trash can, very similar to him grabbing his sunglasses out of the toilet in Lebowski.
Yup. It put a huge smile on my face. When the bowling alley back up band guy asked Bad for leads, I thought, "Leads, yeah, sure. I'll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they've got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in shifts!"

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Like others mentioned, I really like that Tommy's character didn't turn out to be the stereotypical douchey former student. Nice little role for Farrell.

But this is totally Bridges' show. There are so many great moments where he sells everything about Bad Blake without having to say a word. When Tommy comes on stage to duet with him, the quiet bitterness on his face is so telling.

More than anything though, this film just makes me wish I could go fishing with Duvall and Bridges.
I had no idea Farrell was in this. He did an amazing job. As you mentioned, I liked that he wasn't portrayed as a douchebag, though I was pissed at him for stealing Blake's moment by jumping in on his big song. I don't think Tommy was trying to be malicious, but after hearing Blake talk about how its his career defining song, to have it taken away like that really moved me.

Jeff Bridges is the movie. He holds it together and gives it life. All his mannerisms and character quirks were superb (he really doesn't like buttoning his pants ). And the fact that Jeff sang and played guitar really impressed me. I hope he gets rewarded for his performance.

Such a great scene on the boat. When Bad asks Wayne to toss him a "barley pop" I just about died laughing.
post #27 of 39
Just watched it. Loved it. Everything's been said already, but I have to call out "Flyin' & Fallin'" as being a pretty catchy song. It's kinda stuck in my head.

As for the Lebowski references . . . first line in the movie. "A fuckin' bowling alley?!" had me laughing out loud.
post #28 of 39
I loved it. I'm usually a sucker for any music movie like this, but Bridges made it all the more awesome. I'm very much not a country music listener, but I'm actually pretty tempted to pick up the soundtrack, just like other people above me "Flyin' and Fallin'" is still stuck in my head. As a matter of fact, most of Bad's songs reminded me a lot of Don Williams, whom my mom used to listen to a lot when I was growing up.
post #29 of 39
I thought elements of the film were amazing. In particular the performances from Bridges and Glyenhall are fantastic. It's easily Glyenhall's best work since Secretary and Bridges' is just effortless as Bad Blake.

What I love is that he doesn't try and make you sympathise with Blake. He's shown being an asshole enough times to make you realise just how bitter he is and his loathing of Tommy leads to a fantastic pay off. I love that Farrell plays Tommy as being genuinely in awe of Bad and genuinely trying to do right by him, so that all the resentment Bad has for the guy just reinforces the flaws in his character.

I'm not a country fan but the music is fantastic in this, definitely interested in picking up the soundtrack. It's also beautiful to look at, it gave me the same sense of awe of the natural beauty of the USA that Into the Wild gave me.

I do think the elements don't really combine though, despite all its strengths it feels kind of vapouress.
post #30 of 39
I like that Bridges got his oscar for a performance that deserved it rather than it being a lifetime achievement thing. The guy just feels like he has lived Bad's life, and brings a subtlety and realness to it that few actors are capable of, and even in their short scenes I felt the chemistry between him and Duvall was incredible. I know some people have felt the ending was kind of rushed, but watching a guy dry out in rehab we've seen before, the movie is about the guy's journey to the position where he says 'I'm going to try and change', the rest of it is basically an epilogue. Really really good flick.
post #31 of 39
Just saw this, and would have disagree a little bit with Devin's review. I actually went into the film fully expecting Gyllenhaal to annoy the shit out of me, but thought she gave a fine performance. And as someone who HATES country music, or at least modern country, I actually dug alot of the songs.

And I had no idea Colin Farrell was in this, good to see him doing stuff like this and In Bruges, as opposed to SWAT.
post #32 of 39
Saw this last nite. Very good, poignant little film. It was like WALK THE LINE for me, where I got more out of the performances than the film itself, but still have no qualms recommending the film to others. Jeff Bridges is an incredible actor, and the one he gives here almost feels like a swan song for his entire career. You can see the good-hearted man that is the real Jeff Bridges in parts of his performance. So happy for his Oscar win, like an old friend finally got the recognition he deserved.

Didn't mind Gyllenhaal. Haven't been a huge fan of hers, and have been pretty indifferent with her stature for the most part. But I really liked her here. It was a predictable arch she was following story-wise, but I still managed to be moved by her scenes. She could've gone overboard with the histrionics, but she wisely toned it down and gave the more emotional scenes a quiet resonance.
post #33 of 39
Loved it as well. And was specially surprised by Farrel, fantastic little role. And way smart to not make him be a dick. Bridges was crazy good as always and i actually enjoyed Gyllenhall in the movie, i normally can't stand her.

The comparisons to The Wrestler are very apt, though both have the fitting ending to each character.
post #34 of 39
Just watched this tonight. It felt small in scope, not production; I was surprised by all the big names in it, and thought it was great that Farrell was willing to take on a small (though pivotal) supporting role.

As was mentioned in Devin's review and above, it's such a breath of fresh air to have a film that doesn't take all the predictable turns or milk plot events for maximum schmaltz.

Bridges absolutely deserved the Oscar; a really nuanced performance that gave Blake humanity without sanitizing his dickishness. And I don't know why, but I thought Maggie Gyllenhall just glowed the entire movie; found her incredibly attractive. That' secondary, of course, to her performance: I thought she did a solid job of portraying someone who falls for the wrong guys and knows it.

I loved the very ending; I thought it was a good coda for Blake and Jean, and that it ended hopefully without being ridiculous.

The cinematography's been mentioned above, and I agree it was another character in the film. Really fantastic composition and color.

My one complaint is how quickly the film moved through Blake's time in rehab. It obviously "took" and he made some major changes, but I felt a bit cheated that it all essentially happened offscreen. (I am very glad that the film did not go the predictable route of having him fall off the wagon when Jeanie refuses to pick up with him again after achieving sobriety.)

I don't know how soon I'd watch it again, but I can definitely recommend.
post #35 of 39
I watched this and quite liked it.

One thing that I found interesting was the fact that on my first viewing, as the Tommy Smith character was discussed, I found myself wondering if that character would turn up in person in the story at some point. This lead me to wonder who would play him, and who I'd cast in such a role. The first person who jumped to mind was Colin Farrell oddly enough, but I thought to myself "Nah, he's not even an American and they'd never cast him in something like this"

When he showed up, my jaw just about hit the floor. Very cool moment. I wanted a whole movie of Colin Farrell singing country songs. If he ever wants a second career, I'm not usually a concert goer but I'd attend one of his shows
post #36 of 39
Wow great minds thinking alike and such...I just watched this as well.

Great movie, and I really like that they surround "Bad" with characters who care for him, but who are also not willing to put up with (too much) of his shit. In the end, Bad has to stand or fall on his own; His woman and his protege refuse to sacrifice their lives for him.

I especially liked Colin Farrell as a singer who clearly likes and respects Bad, which only highlights how Bad has deteriorated and is ashamed of the way their respective careers have gone.

Highly recommended
post #37 of 39
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post
Wow great minds thinking alike and such...I just watched this as well.

Great movie, and I really like that they surround "Bad" with characters who care for him, but who are also not willing to put up with (too much) of his shit. In the end, Bad has to stand or fall on his own; His woman and his protege refuse to sacrifice their lives for him.

I especially liked Colin Farrell as a singer who clearly likes and respects Bad, which only highlights how Bad has deteriorated and is ashamed of the way their respective careers have gone.

Highly recommended

I'm not bragging, just noting a happy coincidence. It's pretty neat to see your fan casting come true all over the course of a single film


Anyway, I'd have to agree with your take. When you first hear of Tommy, he sounds like sort of a jerk. But Farrell turns out to be a decent guy, and his scenes with Bridges are made all the more painful by the fact that the state of their friendship is just the result of the sad ebb and flow of life and not some grand trauma


EDIT: I didn't just watch it though. I watched it like two weeks ago.
post #38 of 39

Very honest movie, and hard to watch at times. I was cringing through the whole section with the missing child. Bridges is amazing, I would watch a whole movie of him as Bad hanging out in a living room. Farrell was solid, great accent, pony tail and all. Beautiful imagery. It runs a little long, maybe, and some of the plot points (falls in love, messes it up, sobers up) are a bit choreographed. What I loved was the subtle way each event in the second half of the movie influenced the writing of a song.

 

Nice work. Glad I knew very little about it in the two years it took me to see it.

post #39 of 39

I liked it a lot too, especially the way it plays on expectations regarding Bad's relationships with Jean and Tommy. Really solid direction and a bunch of excellent performances.

 

And I had that damn song on high rotate for about two weeks afterward.

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