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Alright, here's the criteria: favorite unrealized horror project. I'm thinking of things like Romero's original big-budget script for Day of the Dead or Carpenter's Halloween 4 treatment or Mick Garris' The Mummy from a screenplay by Clive Barker.

I don't mean hypothetical, made-up "what-ifs." You have to be able to substantiate the ill-fated project. I don't want to hear about "what if Alfred Hitchcock had made his own sequel to Psycho" or if Martin Scorsese had directed Bride of Re-Animator. I mean items which you had at least heard a rumor about, if not read a script or an article confirming it's one-time development. The films that could've been.

Other examples:
--Stuart Gordon's own sequel to Re-Animator, or his original screenplay for Shadow Over Innsmouth.

--The Scott Spiegel / Quentin Tarantino Halloween 6.

--Carpenter's or Landis' or whoever's remake of Creature from the Black Lagoon.

--Alex Proyas' remake of Quatermass and the Pit.

--Romero's various Stephen King projects that got made by other people (The Stand, Salem's Lot, Pet Sematary).

--Spielberg's Jaws 2.

--John Sayles' Night Skies.

--Tobe Hooper's Poltergeist II.

--The Ridley Scott / James Cameron back-to-back Alien 3 and 4. (Or any of the unrealized Alien movies for that matter.)

--Raimi's The Fly 2.

What are your favorite "if only they'd done that" projects? (And please, no "if they'd made my sequel to Texas Chainsaw...")

post #2 of 177
I guess this is veering away from horror but my all time (wish it would have happened but it didn't) movie is "Dune" directed by Alexandro Jodorowsky (spelling?) with H.R.Giger doing the props and Salvador Dali playing one of the characters. Or of course David Lynch directing "Return of the Jedi"
post #3 of 177
Hammer Films' proposed "Vampirella". It's a shame they tanked before the film was developed but imagine the T & A bloodfest that could've come from that film.

"The Fly II" as realized by Raimi (then called "Flies", I believe) would've been some funky stuff.
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The Mist! Please....someday let it get made! I need a good monster movie! Badly!
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Thisone falls outsideofthe horror category, but does fit inwellwiththe subject matter: I've always wanted to see Kevins Smiths Superman (and notthe one with a giant spider at theend or brainiac fighting a polar bear)
I've also alwayslonged for Rob Zombies vision of The Crow(hey,it can't be any worse than that third entry can it?)
Also heard about a Phantasm that happens at a huge mortuatry that processes hundreds of corpsesdaily.Ilove thePhantasm films and while I would love to see Reggie and Bruce go at the Tall Man, i'm not to fond of the storyline I last heard(i will still watch it with high hopes though!)
Now MY question is, what Carpenter treatment for Halloween 4? Any details (besides the shooting him into space idea I heard?) and whats this about Tarentino/Speigle version of 6? Sick minds juss gots ta kno!
post #6 of 177
--I also would have loved to see David Lynch's "Return of the Jedi"
--John Carpenter has mentioned many times over many years that "Quatermass and the Pit" should be remade. That would be fantastic.
--Not horror, but would've loved to have seen "Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League"
I can think of a bunch more...except that I can't think of them right now
post #7 of 177
I'd rather see Cronenberg's Return of the Jedi.
post #8 of 177
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Cthulhu 4 U:
The Mist! Please....someday let it get made! I need a good monster movie! Badly!
I always thought that would make a great fuckin' movie. I just really hope if they ever do, they wouldn't polish up the ending (ahem you know what i mean )
post #9 of 177
Eric Red's Alien 3 script, Vincent Ward's Alien 3 script and William Gibson's Alien 3 script all would have been simply astonishing.

Tim Burton's Black Sunday would have been quite lovely.

Richard Stanley keeps saying he wants to write a giallo picture for Dario Argento which would stomp in big boots all over the world of cool.

Everything The Inspector mentioned as well. Celluloid dreams all...
post #10 of 177
I would have liked to see MANIAC 2 pan out, but unfortunately for that film and the film world in general, Joe Spinell died ... His characters in MANIAC and CRUISIN' are 2 of the creepiest and most disturbing in memory ...
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The Stand, with Eastwood as Flagg and Springsteen as Larry Underwood. Directed by Steven Spielberg or Brian De Palma.

If you go and you read The Devil's Candy, there's a mention of this project-a feature screenplay by King that made the rounds. It was sent to both De Palma and Spielberg, though not in that order--much to De Palma's chagrin. Warners was looking to produce. And in the intro to the uncut The Stand , King suggests Eastwood, Duvall, Bruce Dern, or Christopher Walken as Flagg...but Eastwood woulda been Hellacool...and Springsteen as Underwood.
post #12 of 177
Thread Starter 
These are all great! Keep 'em coming.

Regarding the afformentioned Halloween 4: Carpenter collaborated with Dennis Etchison on a screenplay for a fourth film which saw the townspeople of Haddonfield haunted by the memory of Michael Myers. My understanding is that Michael may or may not have physically existed in this story. He was basically a "nightmare man" of sorts, in a Candyman, New Nightmare type way. His existence was based on peoples paranoia and fear of him.

Believe it or not, Carpenter really was trying to give the Akkad's what they wanted while still attempting to move the series into a different, arguably more interesting direction. His concept was humored, but the final script (obviously) rejected.

I've never been able to get ahold of the script, but it's always been on my list of gotta-haves.
post #13 of 177
I've always wondered what would have happened if Tim Burton had been given Planet Of The Apes right from the start and allowed to make his version of it, rather than being handed a generic script and asked to polish the turd.
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Also, I would dearly love to have seen Paul Verhoeven's original pitch for "Dinosaur" - an all-CGI blood and guts natural history movie that eventually got churned out as a cutesy Disney bomb.
post #15 of 177
Lucas's Apocalypse Now.

Spielberg's Big and Rain Man.
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Not a horror movie, but a horror game. The original build of Resident Evil 2 (affectionately known as "RE 1.5"), which Capcom scrapped in favor of the completely madeover RE2 that was ultimately released to the public.
















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Joe Dante's Jaws 3 - People 0
Dante's The Mummy
David Lynch's Ronnie Rocket
Lynch's One Saliva Bubble
Stuart Gordon's Honey I Shrunk the Kids
post #18 of 177
Funny-

A bunch of us were talking the other night about the "What ever happened to...?" projects.

And the one that never came to fruition that we were all waiting for was "The Sky is Falling".
If our memory served correctly. It was the story of a priest (I believe Bruce Willis was interested?!?!?!?!) who finds irrifutable evidence that there was no Jesus- there is no God, and Religion is a sham used for controlling people...(no comments needed.) and small groups leak this information to the public who basically loses it and figures that "Hey! Since there is no sin anymore...What the Hell" and crime, murder rape, and total anarchaic chaos ensues with the crumbling of society and the world as we know it...

Word had it the script was very violent, and very very disturbing.

Always wanted to see it made, even if just for shock value...

Later
Tony D
post #19 of 177
I'd have to check my old Fangos, but wasn't Tarantino reportedly working on part 6 when his talent was all the rage? I remember he was at some WoH for "From Dusk Till Dawn" and he was throwing rumors out there about whipping up a few ideas for Halloween 6.

That would've been interesting.
post #20 of 177
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Veidt:
Speaking of unrealized projects, I believe there was a book a few years ago (I forget the title) that delved into the most famous films never made - including a Orson Welles-directed adaptation of Heart of Darkness.
You may be thinking of <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1840234288/ref=sr_aps_books_1_1/202-9973861-2300601" target="_blank">The Greatest Sci-Fi Movies Never Made</a>, which covers most of the famous "lost" movies, including the terrifyingly drawn out process to get Superman back on the screen.
post #21 of 177
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fett: mint in box:
I'd rather see Cronenberg's Return of the Jedi.
I'd rather see Paul Verhoeven's Return of the Jedi.

I remember about "The Sky is Falling", Fincher was supposed to do it at one point, right after Seven became a major success I think. That sure would have been special.

And it's not horror but I recently read Smith's scriptment of the 6 billion dollar man and thought it would have made for a pretty fun movie. Lots of fun stuff, pretty gory, good action set-ups. This should really be picked-up, it's miles better than his Superman script.
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By the way, <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Agency/4666/scripts.html" target="_blank">this site</a> is a goldmine, chockfull of scripts that never made it to the screen, including the aforementioned Smith's, Alien 3 by William Gibson, Spider-Man and A Crowded Room by Cameron, Avary's Sandman and many more.
post #23 of 177
Verhoven was offered?
post #24 of 177
I seem to recall him saying about how Lucas offered him the movie then retracted when he finally saw his Dutch movies, yes.
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Wow.
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Yeah, it would have made for an amazing movie I think. Picture this: ewok gang-bang
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Blunt:
Yeah, it would have made for an amazing movie I think. Picture this: ewok gang-bang
Well, they'd get my $8.50, anyway.
post #28 of 177
Tim Burton's "Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street" musical would've been fucking phenomenally cool.

The "Aliens Vs. Predator" movie that was most similar to the original Dark Horse comic series by the same title. OR Robert Rodriguez's "Predator 3" with a return of Schwarzenegger.

The rumored-but-never-ever-ever-ever-going-to-happen "Jason Vs. Michael Myers" movie that was bandied around for about three seconds in '99.

As for "Apocalypse Now," being directed by somebody else, forget Lucas - Milius would've been an interesting choice to direct. Bet it would look pretty fucking similar, however.
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What ever happened to that Mary Lambert's picture about the witness to the crucifixion that was allegedly appearing in paintings through out history, The Witness or something like that...I rememeber reading about it a few years ago and the concept blew my mind.

SJR, A Burton Sweeny Todd ? Serious ? Wow. That, I would pay a hefty chunk of change to see. Christine Baranski as Mrs Lovett and Jim Broadbent or...God, can Jack sing eek! ? God bless the success of Chicago. Maybe this and City Of Angels would come to fruition. Could probably do without Hasselhof in Jekyll & Hyde though, eh ?
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WHERE IS RONNIE ROCKET!?!?!?!?!
post #31 of 177
Well speaking of Tim Burton ...

Wasn't he going to direct a film based on a dinosaour trading card series? I think the dinosaurs in the cards were more related to Godzilla monsters then realistic dinosaurs. Then there was "X.. The Man With X-Ray Eyes"

And again this is veering off horror but wasn't Tarantino supposed to direct a James Bond flick?
post #32 of 177
Romero's Resident Evil
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I think the dinosaur series was a sister series to Topps' original Mars Attacks! cards. I don't know if it was called Dinosaurs Attack!, but I seem to remember it was similarly gory.
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I seem to remember after the first Heavy Metal movie came out that there was talk of the same team doing a Heavy Metal version of Arabian Nights, which certainly would have been something to see.

I would have also liked to have seen Bakshi's second part of Lord of the Rings, if only for the car accident factor.
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This needs to be in a movie. NOW.
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billylove:
Romero's Resident Evil
yeah, forgot that one.

but there is the 30 second TV commercial he did.
post #38 of 177
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Veidt:
The Inspector hit on most of my favorites - although it's depressing to be reminded of them.

A few more to add to that list would be John Hancock's Jaws II. Hancock - who directed Let's Scare Jessica To Death - was the original director on the sequel and was fired soon after filming began after he tried to duplicate Jessica's lyricism rather than follow Speilberg's blockbuster model.

Another would be Romero's Masque of the Red Death. For the Poe anthology Two Evil Eyes, Romero originally had planned for Masque to be his contribution but because of various other Masque projects at the time, the studio forced Romero's hand in choosing another Poe story. The result was one of the worst things Romero has ever committed to film - his adaptation of "The Facts in the Case of M. Valdemar".

I loved Argento's Black Cat so I wish Romero had been able to go ahead with his original choice - perhaps it would've been a far better piece of work and Two Evil Eyes wouldn't have felt so lopsided.

Another "might've been" - that still could be made - is Guillermo del Toro's adaptation of Mark Frost's The List of Seven. The book - which combines Victorian historical adventure with Sherlock Holmes and (as I recall) Lovecraftian horror - would've been an incredible film in the hands of someone like del Toro. But that project has been languishing for years and it looks more and more unlikely that it'll come about.

And how about the David Cronenberg adaptation of Frankenstein that was announced at the time of Scanners? Cronenberg opted not to do it for creative reasons of its own but it was very close to happening for awhile and I think there was even an ad taken out in Variety announcing the project.

There's more, but I can think of them now. I only wish there was some way we could look into some alternate world where these projects DID get made.

One last "unrealized project" would be a non-horror film with horror connections. In the late '80s Tobe Hopper was attached to direct a Spider-Man film for Cannon Films. It would've been on par with The Punisher or the Fantastic Four, I'm sure, but I'd love to be able to see what Hopper would've done with the web-slinger.
Yeah, I've always wondered "what could have been" had Hancock not been booted from the JAWS II production.
As I recall, he got canned about 2 weeks into production because his vision was deemed "too dark"! Sadly, the producers wanted more of an action/adventure flick than a suspense/horror flick.
Too bad, because I'd have loved to see Hancock's version. Who knows? Maybe it would have saved the series from becoming what it ultimately became.
post #39 of 177
I'm also desperately clinging to the hope that Darabount get's THE MIST off the page & onto to the big screen ( or even "just" the little screen via a TV film or miniseries ).
Of all King's unfilmed work ( & for Pete's sake we all know that there's not a whole lot of that left... wink ), THE MIST just BEGS to be adapted! It's my favorite King novella.
post #40 of 177
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You want to talk about wacky formatting, you should see the screenplay for Ronnie Rocket. It's like a stream-of-consciousness novel in script form. There are drawings and whole pages of continous description and then of course, the thing is incomprehensible. Freaky little guy who has to plug himself into a wall-socket every so often to charge his artificial life source. Positive and negative electrical forces working against each other, and of course there's a detective. A lot of the core ideas wound up making there way into other Lynch projects (the electrical stuff showed up in Fire Walk With Me).

I've always been curious about Lynch's Return of the Jedi, though I doubt it would've been much different from the overbearing Lucas version we eventually got.

How about Cronenberg's Total Recall, which was to star Richard Dreyfus and that he worked on for a year? Or Cronenberg's Basic Instinct 2?

I read the script for The Sky Is Falling years ago. I think Fincher passed and Gore Verbinski was set to direct it, at the time. It wasn't proof that there was never a Jesus, it was that God was dead.

Two priests unearthed irrefutable evidence of this while on an archelogical dig. We never see what the proof is, but they stick it in a bag and go on a sex/murder/crime spree because they (A.) know there are no consequences, and (B.) feel like they'd wasted an awful lot of time being penitent. Whatever's in the bag is stone cold proof on sight of God's death many centuries ago.

Bruce Willis was attached to star as a Chow Yun-Fat type character, a former assassin doing self-imposed penance in a monastery somewhere with monks. He's got some sort of weird terminal illness (the story was set in a not-so-distant future) and has grown a conscience about his countless murders for hire. (I saw it like De Niro's character at the beginning of The Mission.)

The Catholic Church, learning of this evidence and the crime spree and fearing for their livelyhood, tricks Bruce Yun Fat into going after the Two Insane Priests "for the good of the church."

What follows from there was your basic John Woo movie. Picture Natural Born Killers meets The Killer. Bruce goes back to his old ways while hunting down Fr. Mickey and Fr. Malory. The climax was even a gun battle in a church. I mean this in a so-so way: the fact is it was a great set up that went nowhere. Would've been interesting to see just the same.

And we were never shown what was in the bag.
post #41 of 177
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This needs to be in a movie. NOW.
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Who knows, if MARS ATTACKS hadn't tanked so badly maybe we'd have gotten Burton's DINOSAURS ATTACKS as a follow up. It definitely had gads of potential to be an over the top treat.
post #42 of 177
I don't really have anything to add the the list, but I love reading everyone elses posts. I've never heard about a lot of these projects but they all seem very cool.

I just thought of something to add though. The Terry Giliman (sp) Watchmen would have been amazing to see. He seems to have a lot of projects that look really promising but then fall completly apart just before filming.
post #43 of 177
Damn, The Sky is Falling (what a wonderful title), when I read about that movie waaaay back when I very psyched. I'm a sucker for Bruce Willis but the entire premise is very intriguing.

It's unfortunate that so many potential movies get bogged down for whatever reasons.

I would love to see The Mist, Romero's RE, MOST DEFINITELY Del Toro's List of Seven (one of my favorite novels, another I didn't know about), Chris Moore's Practical Demonkeeping, Clive Barker's Thief of Always.

I didn't know anything about Romero's Masque of Red Death, that would be beautiful, truly.

Sigh...
post #44 of 177
Anne Rice's "Bride of Frankenstein".

Got the script lying around here somewhere...just got it. I'll let ya know how it is on the Corner.

And speaking of Rice...

Howza 'bout James Cameron's "The Mummy" based on the Rice novel? That rumor was buzzing around for a bit - that would've been just plain bizarre.

And speaking of maniacs versus maniacs, I know a fiend who pitched "Myers vs. Pinhead" to Dimension - they didn't roll with it obviously but it really didn't sound all too shabby next to the "Hellraiser" and "Halloween" sequels the studio insists on crapping out.
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And I totally second a DINOSAURS ATTACKS! film - had the cards, loved 'em. That movie would've brought complete carnage to cinema that would've brought tears to my eyes. Imagine: Dinosaurs rampaging through New York while the overlord Dino (no joke - he's in the cards) watched the chaos from another dimension. Cheesy but fuck, I love it!
post #46 of 177
Romero's version of The Mummy.
post #47 of 177
There was in 1991 a comic series released by the now defunct Eclipse comics which adapted the Dinosaurs Attack card series. The art waas done by veteran comic artist Herb Trimpe. The dinosaur rampage sequences were painted art ,and featured some sick(yet cool) stuff. My favorite was an unidentified carnivorous dino smashing his head through the second story of a school building, then biting a eight year old in half. Then were treated to his upper torso dragging itself away. Now were talking fun!!

It only lasted one issue though, but in the back it was talking about the history of the series, and mentioned that Joe Dante was briefly attached to direct a feature based on it.

Speaking of ramapaging dinosaurs, the grand-daddy of them all, GODZILLA , had some much better prospects before the Emmerich/Devlin debacle(although the animated follow up series softened the blow). Steve Miner fresh off the success of Friday the 13th 2 and 3 , along with Fred Dekker, tried to get a flick featuring a revamped Godzilla , as designed by William Stout, would rampage through San Francisco. But he couldn't get anyone intrested due to high budget for what many considered, 'a kid's film". In the mid-90's it seem a definite go when Tri-Star had announced they were making mega-budgeted feature with the Big-G. Jan De Bont fresh off the success of Speed , was set to direct a script written by Terry Rossio and Ted Elliot featuring Godzilla clashing with the horrifying space menace known as, the Gryphon. Stan Winston and Digital Domain was set to do the effects work, and things looked sweet. Then while in Ausrailia preparing to film the teaser for the flick, Tri-Star calls with complaints about the propsed budget, arguments ensue, and De Bont is off the project. It remained in limbo, and was discarded when Devlin/Emmerich came on board to do thier train wreck.

Another film which I thought sounded cool was Stray Dawgs , featuring Ice Cube battling werewolves in San Francisco. Never heard much about it since mid-2000, guess it fell through, sounded cool though.
post #48 of 177
Bill Condon's gay themed Books of Blood anthology. I was excited when I first heard about it but that sure got shot down quickly. I believe the backers wanted to tone it down before it even got started. It was going to be Dread, The Midnight Meat Train and one other that I can't think of right now. I think it's Fox that wants to make a movie from the short story Dread now so something might get made yet.
post #49 of 177
Well, some of mine...

Clive Barker....

-the animated Thief of Always
- the mini-series of Weaveworld

Carpenter..

- the Big Trouble in Little China TV series that was planned

Zombie...

- I like the 3rd Crow myself, but I woudl love to see his interpretation.

Some other random ones.

George Clooney and Jason Scott Lee as the Green Hornet and Kato! This one he turned down to do Batman instead. Stupid stupid move.

Depp in the new Hulk movie.

A good Daredevil movie cast......... frown

post #50 of 177
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Gibson's draft of Alien 3 would've been a disaster. It was extremely long and dealt mostly with a political tug of war for the rights to the information gathered by the Sulaco. Huge stretches of screentime spent on lots of meetings and arguments with no Aliens (they show up eventually).

Getting William Gibson sounded great on paper, but the result...

...yikes...
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