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post #51 of 177
AMEN on that Daredevil statement!! I wholeheartedly endorse those sentiments!!
What about the Escape From New York tv series? I remember readingone thing aboutit in Fangolong ago and then nadda.That would have been interesting to see (though probably not very good)
Speaking of tv series, I would have loved(maybe) to see The nightstalker on thebig screenwith the big budget! I loved that show as a kid and got a hard-on when I first heard that they were considering doing a movie with it.
post #52 of 177
wait a minute, wait a minna, hhhhhhhooolldd up!
Akkaad "supposedlky" threw the Tarentino (sp?) script for Halloween against the wall, BUT gave the thumbs up for Halloween 6 and 8???
Either that script reallly blew dog or the man truly is insane!
post #53 of 177
Two words: Gilliam's "Watchmen"

If only "The Adventures of Baron Munchausen" had been the hit it deserved to be...
post #54 of 177
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GQSioux:
The Gibson treatment borderlined cheesiness.
LIES!

p.s. lol

PEACE OUT!
post #55 of 177
Does anyone know of a site that has "THe Sky is Falling Script"? I'd really like to give it a read.
post #56 of 177
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Lynch's One Saliva Bubble
Holy crap, I forgot about this! This was the one Lynch wanted Steve Martin and Martin Short for, right? Was a script ever written?
post #57 of 177
Another TV Thing, and another Romero thing as well.
His Living Dead television series would just be awesome. Can you imagine a world in which we get Romero zombi treatment on a weekly basis?!?
post #58 of 177
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Originally posted by Frost, re: One Saliva Bubble--
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Holy crap, I forgot about this! This was the one Lynch wanted Steve Martin and Martin Short for, right? Was a script ever written?
There was indeed a screenplay written by Mark Frost and David Lynch. It was that collaboration which lead to the two working together on Twin Peaks. The quote from Robert Engels (a regular staff writer on Peaks and co-writer of Fire Walk With Me) was, "It's about an electric bubble from a computer that bursts over this town and changes people's personalities - like these five cattlemen, who suddenly think they're Chinese gymnasts. It's insane."

Regarding someone's earlier comment about The Tourist: I remember those drawings as well. What the hell was that movie supposed to be about? Anyone know?
post #59 of 177
Okay, I know that this is an old topic, but I really love reading this stuff. I figured I'd bump it again to see if anyone has anything to add.
post #60 of 177
Whatever happened to the new Spider-Man Animated Series that was supposed to premiere on MTV last fall? It was computer animation I do believe, with Sean Patrick Harris and Lisa Loeb doing voicework...

Definitely Romero's RE.

Darren Arronofsky's Batman: Year One

And, while not a full movie, I would love to see the filmed scenes from Back to the Future with Eric Stoltz as Marty. I was hoping they'd be on the dvd, but all we got was what, one still shot from it?
post #61 of 177
People talk alot about how great the Jodorowsky version of Dune might have been, but I imagine if it had been made most of those same people would be saying it sucked and dreaming about how great it might have been if Lynch had made it.
post #62 of 177
Evil Dead 4.

If every Chewer signed a contract to see this movie 20 times in the theater at full ticket price, how much money would that make? Would it be enough to finance this movie? I want it to happen. I'd also buy all 359 eventual Anchor Bay releases.
post #63 of 177
The point of the thread remains movies that at some point actually had some activity behind them. ED4 doesn't fit.

I'm adding <a href="http://home.online.no/~bhundlan/scripts/alien3/twohy.txt" target="_blank">Twohy's Alien 3</a> to this list, even though I thought Fincher's was ugly and great.

Actually, upon rereading this script, I take that back. The dialogue is good, but he basically just made an Alien 3 movie by crossing Alien 2 with whichever Jaws it was where they ram the sailboat into the shark, which somehow makes it explode.
post #64 of 177
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whichever Jaws it was where they ram the sailboat into the shark, which somehow makes it explode.
That would be the European cut of the infamous Jaws: The Revenge. Interestingly enough, this was part of a "revised" and re-shot ending. The original, US theatrical cut was equally abrupt and senseless but went a little something like this:

Lance Guest is using his modified flashbulb to internally "shock" the shark, with a sound effect straight out of 30s Frankenstein. It's leaping out of the water and roaring like King Kong from the old 30's movies. (In case you haven't noticed from my descriptions, the sound design on this movie is like "Ancient Sound Effects 101".) Lorraine Gary, at the helm of the boat, steers directly for the shark while having a flashback (in sepia tone) to something she never saw: Roy Scheider clinging to the mast of the sinking Orca while firing his last ditch shots at the shark in the first Jaws. This seems to incense her to "ram" the shark, which is dangling up out of the water like a dolphin on its tail (not that we see it doing this, but it'd have to be for what happens next). She heads right for it, revving up the engine. Michael Caine screams, "Ellen, we're gonna hit it." (Which, by the way, is not an obvious fact from the way this has all been shot.)

At this point, in the European cut, the boat (and the shark) seem to explode upon impact without much of an explanation given. Everyone is floating on debris afterwards.

In the US cut, we go to slow motion as Lorraine recalls the "smile you son of a bitch" moment from Scheider and the broken bowsprit pierces the sharks skin, running it through. The shark vomits blood and screams as the rickety boat begins to crumble in half from the full on weight of the mechanical shark impaled on its bow.

This is followed by a shot looking up at an underwater miniature of the shark, still impaled on the front quarter of the ship, sinking to the bottom, the "electronic heartbeat" audibly slowing on the soundtrack. Fade to black. Cut to epilogue.

The alternate European ending (which was also the version released here in the States on video) was created (I presume) for two reasons: one, the ending described above is extremely abrupt and over before you even know what's going on and two, Mario Van Peebles character turns up in a "post explosion" scene, mortally wounded but floating on his back, saved by Lance Guest. In the American cut, this character ("Jake") is eaten by the shark and stays dead. He was, apparently, so "beloved" by audiences, that the studio authorized reshoots to "bring him back at the end" a la Hooper in the original film. I guess they were willing to do anything to "fix it in post" even after it had already come out.

Why they chose to completely eliminate the impalement is unknown to me. If it's because it looks very cheesy, then okay. Otherwise, the impaled shark and cracking boat is possibly the only "spectacular" set piece in the movie, albeit done too quickly and very badly.

I'm not defending Jaws: The Revenge. I just happen to have an expansive knowledge of the series and a guilty pleasure enjoyment level for the movie which coined the phrase, "This time, it's personal."

Now, Jaws 5?
post #65 of 177
Been cool to have seen what Spielberg would have done with "Superman", the producers wanted to see how his 'fish' movie was going to perform before offering him a deal.

When the did offer him a deal, they balked at his price.

This other what-if still haunts me since I cant' find any other cooberation.

Sometime in 1994, while promoting "Star trek: Generations" Patrick stewart announced on the Leno show of a "Star Wars/Trek cross-over. He said Harrison Ford had agreed to it and FIsher was involved in the scripting or something and it would be released in the summer of 96? A friend saw it too, so I was not alone in seeing this, but I still have no hard evidence to back this up...

At the time it sounded cool, but had it came to be, it would have been a bad idea.

I would kill for Carp remake of "Creature from the Black Lagoon!" and his proposed "Snake Plissken" tv series.

Also, rumors of a third Snake flick would have Plissken in space or something like that. YES!
post #66 of 177
Man, Carpenter's had a damn lot of good projects that just never happened...

adding one to the list, John Carpenter's Martian Chronicles (i think that's the title).
It coulda been something else.. as long as it didn't end up like Ghosts of Mars.
post #67 of 177
Darabont will make "The Mist" - bet on it.

Great unmade:
Jodorowsky's "Dune"
Gilliam's "Watchmen", "Defective Detective" & "Man who Killed Don Quixote"
Zemeckis' "Roger Rabbit 2- Toon Go to War"
del Toro's "Creature From the Black Lagoon"
Lucas' "Star Wars - Episodes 7-9" (even though this might be a good thing now.)
post #68 of 177
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childes (with the flamethrower):
I'm not sure if this counts but I would love to see a movie with Mcfarlane's Blair Witch design put to good use.
McFarlane did a Blair Witch design?
post #69 of 177
Stick me in with the Romero/Resident Evil crowd.
post #70 of 177
Two of them, actually, they were in the Series 4 lineup of Movie Maniacs, proving that even though there are still HUNDREDS of characters we'd all love to see in action figure form, McFarlane doesn't give a shit.
post #71 of 177
Thread Starter 
Okay, how about parts 2 & 3 of the projected Twin Peaks movie trilogy? Fire Walk With Me, while in my opinion, closes the circle figuratively and literally, was intended to be the beginning of a trilogy of films. I remember reading that the intention was to make the three movies as prequel, then a sequel, then an overall finale.

The finished film definitely opens new doors that go unexplored such as what happened to Chester Desmond, Chris Isaak's character? And there are hints to other unresolved plot points from the tv series such as Heather Graham's cameo in which she tells Laura that the "Good Dale" is in the Lodge and "can't leave." Could it have been that Laura Palmer would've saved Agent Cooper in the future by writing this information down in her diary? Other elements seem to embellish upon mysteries introduced in the tv series, providing the tools for a potential "way out" for certain loose threads.

The screenplay (which flashes forward to the minutes after the last episode in the epilogue and creates a traditional Peaks cliffhanger in the process) clearly means to be the start of something, not the end. It's way too late now, I dare say impossible but I would kill to have seen it go on.

--AND--

Has someone already mentioned the third Three Mothers film from Argento? Didn't a recent documentary make it a point to say that it was more of an emotional unwillingness on Dario's part than a matter of financing?

And while I'm on sequels, how about Black Christmas 2: Halloween Night?
post #72 of 177
Isn't Dario developing the final part of his three mothers trilogy after his current project? Could've sworn I read a quote that he was finally getting one underway.
post #73 of 177
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The Inspector:

And while I'm on sequels, how about Black Christmas 2: Halloween Night?
Was this actually talked about, or is this just a wish list? If this was the real deal Inspector, any details to share?
post #74 of 177
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Dan Whitehead:
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Speaking of unrealized projects, I believe there was a book a few years ago (I forget the title) that delved into the most famous films never made - including a Orson Welles-directed adaptation of Heart of Darkness.
You may be thinking of <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1840234288/ref=sr_aps_books_1_1/202-9973861-2300601" target="_blank">The Greatest Sci-Fi Movies Never Made</a>, which covers most of the famous "lost" movies, including the terrifyingly drawn out process to get Superman back on the screen.
There's also Chris Gore's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/031220082X/qid=1050206506/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/002-0211346-3281653?v=glance&s=books" target="_blank">The 50 Greatest Movies Never Made</a>

This is the book that talks about Welles' Heart of Darkness. Also Aliens Vs. Predator, Kubrick's Napoleon, Jaws 3 People 0 and a bunch more.

There's even a few that have actually been produced since the book came out four years ago. Welles' The Cradle Will Rock became Tim Robbins' Cradle Will Rock. John Kricfalusi's Ripping Friends became a TV show. And Elmo the Aardvark became an internet cartoon.

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<a href="http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Agency/4666/scripts.html" target="_blank">That French site</a> with all the hard to find scripts is great! Thanks for that post! (By the way, the One Saliva Bubble script is there for download.)

I still have issues of the old SciFi Universe with articles on the Cameron Planet of the Apes, the Oliver Stone Planet of the Apes, and the earlier Godzilla project. So what if they jumped the gun? I loved that magazine.

I don't know if Gilliam's Watchmen would have worked, but I'd love to see his Defective Detective or Time Bandits 2.

Whatever happened to the Blair Witch prequel?
post #75 of 177
Even though it's not a Sci-Fi or horror movie, Sergio Leone's film about he Seige of Stalingrad would have been one of the bewt films ever made (and thats just upon the opening scene that he'd worked out!! He died the night before he was going to leave for LA to sign the papers.

Also, after reading through the script for Gillams Watchmen, I'm a little happy that is did end up happening. The script is perfect, up untill the very ended which just pisses me off.
post #76 of 177
Thread Starter 
Originally posted by Hollow Point, re: Black Christmas 2
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Was this actually talked about, or is this just a wish list? If this was the real deal Inspector, any details to share?
Don't worry, I'm still sticking to the criteria I set for this thread back in the day.

Aside from recycled rumors of a sequel being made (including some very recent ones), Bob Clark acknowledged in a Fango interview in the late '90s that he and John Carpenter were working on an unrelated project together (which fell through) when he was in discussions to make a sequel to Black Christmas. His idea was, since the first film was set on Christmas, to have the second film set on Halloween. This is pre-Carpenter's Halloween mind you, and there are some pretty hefty similarities between Black Christmas and Halloween.

Things that make you go hmmm...
post #77 of 177
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Here's what was said in that Fango article from January 1997, issue 159, page 18, from Keith Bearden's extensive retrospective article "I'm Dreaming of a Black Christmas":
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Its excellent run in the Great White North and surprising open-ended finale did prompt interest from the film's financiers in a Black Christmas follow-up. "Yes, I was going to do a sequel, and I was going to call it Halloween," Clark reveals, and he's not kidding. "It was going to be about the killer getting caught and being put in an asylum and the following Halloween he gets out again."

Horror historians will be interested to know that during the same period in 1975 that Clark was developing his Halloween script, he was also working with a young John Carpenter on an unrealized screenplay (for Carpenter to direct) about a murderous family of Appalachian moutain people. Especially considering that Carpenter and Debra Hill later turned their (basically almost identical) Halloween concept into an influential horror hit, some would say the similarities are too strong to be discredited.

"I remember him asking me later if I was going to make the sequel," Clark responds. "At that time I was clearly moving on, so I said, 'No, I'll never make that.' But I don't feel ripped off. They're not alike, really, and he may have totally forgotten about my script by the time Halloween rolled around. Also, the killer in Black Christmas is a phantom - you never see him, and that would have carried over to the sequel. There are a lot of dissimilarities like that."
post #78 of 177
I bow before your vast limitless knowledge. Now that you posted it, I do remember that issue (I have all of them) and that interview. I remember the sequel talk, but totally forgot about the Halloween setting. I'm sure that would start some shit. I'm down with the project just to see Carpenters reaction.
post #79 of 177
Anyone else have on to add?
post #80 of 177
Stephen King's The Mist - I know that they've been trying to get it off the ground for years now and by god I hope they do. That was one of the best short stories I've ever read.
post #81 of 177
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Stephen King's The Mist - I know that they've been trying to get it off the ground for years now and by god I hope they do.
This one seems to come up quite a bit on this thread. And, as has been mentioned earlier, rest assured that Frank Darabont fully intends to make this film, and soon. The things I've heard lead me to believe it's in good hands.
post #82 of 177
This Present Darkness
post #83 of 177
I'll throw in my vote for Landis' proposed Werewolf in London sequel. If I had my Fangos @ work, I could look it up, but MAN, did it sound cool as fuck!
& how about Deep Red Sea? Okay, so maybe it wasn't pitched, but that plot that leaked out sure was tasty.
post #84 of 177
This is late, but mad props to The Inspector's infodump about all things JAWS, back on page 1 of this thread. Stuff like that is why I love the Corner.
post #85 of 177
I've got one to add, though it's a scifi project -- Heavy Metal: Burning Chrome. Long before the shoddy Julie Strain Heavy Metal sequel travesty was made, I recall reading that preproduction had begun on a sequel that would adapt several short stories from William Gibson's Burning Chrome collection. God, that would've been so much better.

--MM
post #86 of 177
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This may be more of a wish but I'd love to see a REAL Spawn movie not just a charecature of the basic story used to insert effects(never mind how cool some of them were) randomly for an hour and a half.
I don't think this is as "out of the lines" as you think. Didn't McFarlane say something (a while ago) about a Spawn sequel that would virtually ignore the first, aim for an R rating and play up the darker elements? Am I crazy or does anyone else remember this?
post #87 of 177
I remember hearing that McFarlane was writing the script for Sony, but I think that around summer of last year. Haven't heard anything since.

I think it's in Development Hell.
post #88 of 177
You guys are all right on the money - McFarlane writing & directing a darker R-rated film that focuses on Sam & Twitch.

And it will never happen.
post #89 of 177
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This Present Darkness
That sir would indeed rock. That or The Oath. Did you hear if TPD was even in talks?
post #90 of 177
It is my understanding that it was going to happen at one time, but I think that the project died. This has been quite a few years ago that I heard this.
post #91 of 177
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Clive's name seems to come up quite a bit in this thread, and while both films are admittedly disappointing, how about his intended Nightbreed and Lord of Illusions sequels? Both were clearly meant to be (still-born) starts to franchises, with Nightbreed the beginning of an intended trilogy.

Wasn't there going to be a book sequel to "Cabal" (The basis for Nightbreed)?

Wasn't there going to be a Harry D'Amour TV series for the SciFi channel?
post #92 of 177
Right, the Nightbreed trilogy... I remember seeing a Return to Midian teaser poster in my youth at the back of some Clive zine (maybe it was called the Breed or Ceno-something). It was Boone's face with the scarring. So for years I went around thinking it got made but would stay in the can... more or less a sweaty preadolescent dream.

Does anybody know the deal with that? Any subscribers to Clive zines?
post #93 of 177
John Carpenter's The Hungry Moon.
post #94 of 177
Personally, I was really disappointed when Álex de la Iglesia's proposed Fu Manchu movie fell apart a couple of years ago. If I remember correctly, it was to star Antonio Bandaras, with Anthony Hopkins in the title role. I cannot remember if the film was a N.American/Spanish co-production or a strickly European affair, but the story goes that as production was winding up, the buget kept getting cut and cut until finally Álex de la Iglesia decided he could no longer produce the movie he wanted and dropped it. The only good thing to come out of it was that he decided to make the lower budget (and supposedly amazing) 800 Bullets.
post #95 of 177
I loved Lord of Illusions!
post #96 of 177
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The Inspector:
Clive's name seems to come up quite a bit in this thread, and while both films are admittedly disappointing, how about his intended Nightbreed and Lord of Illusions sequels? Both were clearly meant to be (still-born) starts to franchises, with Nightbreed the beginning of an intended trilogy.

Wasn't there going to be a book sequel to "Cabal" (The basis for Nightbreed)?

Wasn't there going to be a Harry D'Amour TV series for the SciFi channel?
At one time,1990 I believe, Barker was under contract with Harper Collins to write Cabal 2 & 3 and the third book of the Art. As things go, they were never written but The Art book is supposed to be finished after Abarat.
The directors cut of Nightbreed is what I'm waiting for. I just read the final shooting script and it's a lot different than what was put on the screen. It seems as if Fox just cut out everything that would have given it more meaning. Last October at a signing, Barker said that Fox told him that the deleted 30 minutes of footage is still in their vaults. He is looking to hire someone to go in there and track it down.
The Harry D'Amour series is with Showtime and the pilot script is finished. They are waiting for the greenlight from Showtime.
post #97 of 177
I like "Illusions" as much as I do "Hellraiser".
post #98 of 177
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I loved Lord of Illusions, but I would have also loved more to have seen the version that would have been before studio interference. Apparently the studio wanted more horror, Mr. Barker wanted more mystery and suspense, the studio won out, and then requested cuts be made because of the horror content.
I don't know much about this situation beyond the fact that the "Director's Cut" has been available on video (all formats I think) for quite some time. If you mean a different vision on the development end, then right, who's to say? If you mean a preferred cut of the movie, it's out there to find (I think the extended cut is the one that plays on cable as well).
post #99 of 177
I want a Kolchak movie in the vein of the tv show. Lynch couldn't deliver that.
post #100 of 177
My father is good friend with a guy who has written extensively about Kolchack, including a mid-90s novel that has Kolchak fighting Civil War zombies and death dogs that would make a fantastic movie, and I believe there were plans to adapt the first Kolchak movie to screen. Nick Nolte was rumored to star.

And when I saw Del Toro last October he seemed pretty confident that Mountains of Madness would happen. To him its as big a dream project as Hellboy is.
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